I hate them, they arent real pooners and pooners are barely real anyway. why would a girl ever want to be a man. and even if they wanted to be a man why would they be a femboy?
ftm femboys are the only real femboys because otokonoko characters are never crossdressing because they personally like it, they're were always forced into it by some weird situation, and stick with it out of habit
>>42568101No he's actually cool. I think there's a line that you can draw between FtM Femboys who are clearly Femboys and FtM Femboys who are just women. It's like how you can draw a line between butch trans women and "butch" trans women who are just hons.
>>42568101I say they are permissible on the grounds they can only do anal. Plus they gotta wear a packer and occupy male spaces. If I have to awkwardly piss in the urinal next to some fat boomer with my tiny estrogen dick then they have to, too :3
>>42568101I think you are 100% just jelly that you are getting giga mogged by pretty twink trans flamers whatever your gender is
>>42568301here is some more beauty
>>42568301im mtf. the thing is being a femboy is inherently fem leaning. in no way is it masc you are just a larping female. you could say its the same for mtf tomboys, but tomboys are still fem leaning so they are still real girls. i just hate larpers
>>42568311I feel like op picrel hits the right notes of "boy" in "femboy" while this most looks like a futch lesbian.
>>42568311thats just a girl
>>42568333its just a girl with short hair
>>42568329>trans men that are on t and who have surgeries are not men cause they are feminineHow retarded are you?
>>42568334>>42568344Jealous hags always screeching when a boy is cute and pretty
>>42568350there are femboy men on e, would you call them troons?
>>42568301>>42568311>posts two women with short hairyou are a gynephilic retard who is thinking with the wrong head. OP's picrel looks like a flamer and i have no problem with him
>>42568362yes, if they get surgeries
>>42568376most of 4chan would just think they are agp sissys and not real troons but ok
>>42568386I'm not transphobic
>>42568402youd agree that gender dysphoria is what makes you trans right? if you have gender dysphoria as an ftm why would you want to present fem. you just dont have dysphoria if you do so you arent actually trans
>>42568432>gender=clothes
>>42568439>clothes=dysphoria
>>42568442Ftm femboys have such a biological dysphoria that they would want to transition even in a totalitarian world where every male and woman was forced to dress and style exactly the same. Maybe they are just more trutrans?
Ftm femboys are not generally regarded as male in society, they'd be registered as trans from the croaky voice and short hair but you have to do extra steps to be convincingly male, dress appropriately. Wearing skimpy outfits for socmed and not even bothering to put on a packer is so stupid and if they just did that it would stop half of the threads like this. In that sense theyre similar to hrt femboys bc both get told theyre just women and hrt femboys can also be clocked as trans by society.
>>42568467how does going against societal norms correlate to trutrans. seems like a reach
>>42568479>the croaky voicethey have beautiful deep voices. Very sultry
>>42568158this desu
>>42568493for them its a biological need to transition, not some gender clothes you put on
>>42568494Dawg 80% of them get medically lowdosed by their no good endos the voice is croaky.
>>42568479yeah thats true, i agree. if they actually put effort into doing things that help gender dysphoria and they dont just post porn of themselves focussing on their vagina then id accept they were trans. but thats not happening anytime soon
>>42568504i understand that but if you arent doing anything to help your so called dysphoria how can you be trans
>>42568508I listen to them and they sound deep and lovely. But I saw a clips of some frog voice ftm getting injection to his neck and he got a male voice after 4 rounds, so the voice thing is fixable. He was not my type tho, he had a beard and a thin hair
>>42568511Alot of trans people in general still rely on sex work to afford surgeries. Op's pic and a few others are pretty vocal about only presenting fem to advertize their content. So its desperate in a way. Thats a whole other thing, its fucking embarrassing for some of them but they do it anyway.
>>42568522this boy I have posted is on testosterone and had top surgery
>>42568101i for one support AFABs identifying as sissies
>>42568533that makes sense. i guess in the end it was just a case of needing to make money and none of them were ever actually femboys. so femboy ftms dont exist just ftms needing to make a living
>>42568546I didn't say its all of them keyword "some"
>>42568558im leaving here with less hate in my heart thinking that ftm femboys arent real they just need cash. let this thread have a happy resolution please
>>42568572Ok gomen i just like reserving some place for hate in my heart
>>42568101>why would a girl ever want to be a man. and even if they wanted to be a man why would they be a femboy?You have autism and it makes you unable to see things from a different point of view.
>>42569184I don't see what that has to do with anything.
>>42569191You can understand MTFs because you are one, but you're unable to comprehend FTMs, despite the fact they are the same thing, just in reverse. That's autism.
>>42569191> I don’t see how being unable to understand others perspectives is relevant to understanding others perspectives You’ve heard it here first folks
>>42568311WIFEPLAPBABY
>>42569221The problem is that ftms aren’t the same thing as mtfs. Most ftms want to be mtfs not men, because they see US as men.
>>42569270>ftms see mtfs as men! It's funny you would said this under a thread you made specifically to talk about seeing FTMs as women. Again, you cannot see things from a different perspective, which in turn makes you a hypocrite.
>>42569270Safe, twinky men that should act fem ;)Being an actual man is too alien, too GRIM, too much responsibility
>>42569292i didn’t make the thread and I don’t agree with some points of it, i think ftm femboys are okay, but without hormones or any will to transition you’re not a femboy, you’re a femgirl. Femboys are fem DESPITE testosterone, that’s what being a femboy means.
>>42569308Then you're not the person I was talking to.>without hormones or any will to transition you're not [trans]That is true of anyone who claims to be a transsexual without suffering from GD and without transitioning.
>>42568333Its the facial structure (long mid face, decent browbone). We need to normalize FMS.
>>42569270I don't want to have tits or cock, there is very little goals about being mtf to me.
>>42569389It's actually the makeup. She is wearing the same makeup drag kings wear, which seeks to contour the face in a way that makes it resemble a Chad-like male face. To some might make her appear more masculine, but to nooticers, it just makes her look uncanny. Femboys in general, cis or trans, should not wear makeup. A femboy is supposed to be a cute, androgynous, youthful, thin male, not a woman. Unfortunately the meaning of the word has been corrupted.
>>42568101A lot of American girls see effeminate homosexuals as a positive feminine influence regardless of their gender identity as they are typically more feminine than females in how they carry themselves. I feel like that is the reason why this twisted subculture is emerging. Honestly I don't see how transfeminine people could not be insulted by this. They are already feminine beings to begin with yet they want to larp as one of them. If you are not aware how impressionable females can be well now you know. Yet another demonstration that we live in an era of idiocracy.
>>42569184OP here, yeah i do have autism and find it hard to see different point of views youre right. but in the end the thread left with a happy ending so alls well that ends well
>>42568101this thread restored my brain after yesterday's poonsade. seeing actual effort ftfemboys restores some of my faith in that side of pooners, after yesterday had me questioning why poonpoons can't hit that shit like butch/futch mtfs can
>>42568158I agree. it's just a "know it when you see it" kinda thing
>>42572975Cannot you form ideas on your own without someone coming to bottlefeed you with them? If you are that easy to convert into transphobia you have a very small mind
>>42568494must groom
>body similar to illustrated femboys>hrt, top surgery>tomboy personality and hobbies>dress mascDoes this make me a ftfemboy?
>>42568494drip goals kinda
>>42575954no, that just makes you a dude who happens to look like a little bitch
>>42575954You need a pussy
>>42568344>>42568334>t.jelly uggo
>>42575993People don't describe me that way, so it's unlikely>>42576117I have one
>>42576295>>dress masc>ftfemboy?Take a guess.>>tomboy personality and hobbiesAssociating yourself with anything female will eventually get you clocked for acting like an insufferable woman, starting off with that retarded question.Start getting the personality and hobbies of a man or grow into a hairy foid barely any different from the rest.
