>>42569643
become a vintage game collector. spend your life savings on video games.

Could you give more details? In most cases the mental affliction you're speaking of is autism, for which there is no cure

>>42569643
suicide
avoid gay sex at any cost

>>42569662
I did this and still trooned

>>42569643
literally just dissociate and lock in and get on the grind 4head.

>>42569643
shotgun to the mouth

>>42570126
5head

>>42569662
This. Everytime you think of spending 500 bucks on women's clothing, spend 500 on video games & toys instead.

Honestly, I wish I knew. I am going to be doing a trial-run of HRT because I'm so fucking tired of wanting to peel my own skin off. I tried everything to be comfortable in my body as it is and nothing helps. Psychiatry and therapy don't help, healthy living doesn't help, nothing. This is kind of my last hope.

i fucking hate having tits but i dont know what else to do, i want to be feminine so badly

>>42569643
Make Linux finally not shit by being able to drag and drop and have a unified clipboard system.

>>42569643
Change your life.

>>42569643
take your HRT, retard

reminder that repping fries ur brain

>>42569643
if your 'mental affliction' is wanting to troon
then it's pretty much just hrt
there is a biological component to all this
and if it really comes to it there are very narrow margins where you can relieve symptoms while avoiding face hair/boob growth
but you can't solve an endocrine issue with words

>>42573583
actually.
but it's not all doom and gloom
most of the brain damage is reversed after 8ish years or less of proper hormone levels

>>42573617
I think this is true, I used to want to be female, really wished to be a woman then when I got on hrt it kinda disappeared, guess my body just needed female hormones.

>>42573638
repping also rots the soul

>>42573583
>>42574305
as a repchad I can confirm that the cognitive decline is 100% real
still not trooning but only because of unfortunate personal circumstances

>>42574264
most of what people call male and female have nothing to do with the bioloigy
all this random identity and society shit gets added on top of what is essentially just the brains and balls not matching up
and hey if you have the hormones for your brain sex and don't feel the need to act out some constructed persona then the chart says you're probably good
slightly higher risk for certain joint and heart issues depending on which specific bits are y and which are x
slightly lower suicide rates than baseline
>>42574305
souls are fake and gay
but a lack of dht in men and a lack of estradiol in women does cause brain damage

>>42574264
if you are actively pretending to be a man though the outcomes aren't so favorable
but that's quality of life shit and a few years of heart health
if the levels of whatever you need are high enough you should function well enough to no longer be a medical problem

I wish conversion therapy was real

>>42574991
>t. hasn’t achieved nirvana

>>42569662
Didn’t work for me
coomlecting is more fun than playing anyways

>>42569643
Straight dude here. Liking your body and how you are seen by passersby is junk food. The real meat and potatoes of having a positive experience of your birth gender is when the fact that you're a $gender is a blessing to your community. When you start to develop a reputation *as* a man or woman. When either the physical differences or, more often post-industrialization, the gendered archetypes you have access to *by way of being a man/woman* give you better access or multipliers to having certain kinds of positive impact on the people around you, and your community notices.

Obviously the death of community and progressive Americans absolutely hating gender archetypes has made this far less accessible and damaged the reward system, but it's still there if you go look for it.

So, OP, how can you get to know the people around you? How can you use the fact that you are what you are to add a smile to their day? How can you put yourself into an environment that doesn't consistently spit on the idea of men and women being different and that being an opportunity? How can you shift your self-image from being based on your perception by strangers to your reputation with a community?

>>42576530
lmao
the absolute lack of ability that normies have to empathize with or understand what dysphoria is like is actually insane

>>42576530
nta but I am such a person in my community. I have a reputation *as* a man. All IRL, mind you.
I still want to be a woman and I take estrogen.
Now I'm trying to warm up the community on this too. If it works, great. If not, it will be a pity but I'm done pretending.

>>42576586
Your reflexive jump to "The people I hate don't have working empathy [and are therefore clearly subsapient animals, but we don't say that part out loud except when we're deep into lgbtq+ spaces]" is actually insane.

OP asked for what people think will help other than drugs and surgery. That sort of requires a theory that can't solely be fixed by drugs and surgery, doesn't it?

>>42569643
Comfy

>>42576660
I don't hate you I just think you very obviously have zero clue what you're talking about as demonstrated by what you wrote

>>42569643
>>42576645
>>42576660
Oh, the other thing I can offer as a thing that might help is reassociating with one's body in a posititve way. IDK your life or what you've tried, but something that involves balance, vigorous activity, and firm pressure/impact lots of places may also help one's body feel like part of one (again?) in a constructive way. Rock climbing, BJJ/Muay Thai, anything where you're pushing or thumping all over and getting good dynamic use out of the whole thing.

Why? IMO, the other big social change relevant to the gender/body stuff in the last hundred years is that people aren't out doing physical stuff for work all the time. Not just industry, but vigorous chores like splitting wood and doing laundry without a washing machine. That was people's environment for at least half of their waking hours, and it just isn't anymore. I hope we've all experienced the thing where a tool feels like an extension of your body because you've used it so much. It stands to reason that enough deprivation of use of the body might work the other way, especially when combined with a lack of positive associations of body-as-useful-tool, not just for helping one's community as I described above, but also for putting food on the table, and also also for *making one's life tangibly better.* It's one thing to buy your baby's diapers off of amazon with your paycheck. It's quite another thing to keep that baby safe from the howling winter with a cabin you and your buddies built with the strength of your own backs.

>>42576716
>>42569643
Anyway, OP (and others,) I'm sure more than a few of the people that transition have thought of these things and/or done them by accident, but if it helps one person, ya know? And I don't often see these ideas leaking out of the spaces people tend to go to for answers. I'm sure some of you will say that's because they're useless, but I can also... uh... see why they wouldn't be popular for other reasons, Chesterton's gate being the regime of uneducated, cousin-fucking fools that want to lynch the queers or whatever, and "who gives a shit what a bunch of people who didn't have iphones and shat in holes and starved to death thought" being pretty near to the heart of the zeitgeist, so I kinda felt like I had to offer them up on the off chance.

Anyway, I wish you the best, OP. It's a shitty, invasive, pervasive problem to have, and I hope you find effective, durable solutions.

>>42576716
>It's quite another thing to keep that baby safe from the howling winter with a cabin you and your buddies built with the strength of your own backs.
Approximately 0% of men in the first world do this. You're being ridiculous.
The other anon is right about your lack of ability to even conceptualize dysphoria. You're working off of memes at best (I am really trying to be polite).
I'm a part time carpenter for hobby. I also looove cooking. None of these change the fact that I want to be socially female or the fact that estrogen has had an immensely positive effect on my mental health.
Also, you really should learn that most functional trannies are in fact outdoorsy people. The one place (besides concerts/events/theme parties/bars) I find trannies IRL is in camping and other nature/outdoor settings.

t. >>42576645

>>42573583
Idk if its repping or just depression but i forget words nowadays and sleep for 18 hours a day

Can anyone help me figure out confusionrepping? I'm not even dysorphic for 99% of the time and i am okayish mentally for most of the time. I only get hit with dysphoria sparsly when i have tk like look at a picture of myself or in the mirror for too long and then i want to genuinely kill myself out of disgust but 99% of the time its fine.
Tranny topics orbit my mind in the background a lot though. Also i'm an utter and total hermit and hsdnt been around people in 7 years now so maybe i'm fine because i never have to play the part of a man.

I'm just not sure how i feel about it.

>>42576763
>It's quite another thing to keep that baby safe from the howling winter with a cabin you and your buddies built with the strength of your own backs.
>Approximately 0% of men in the first world do this. You're being ridiculous.
My whole thesis is that the modern Western "first world" way of life is a new thing, and maybe it, especially in its current implementation, has some downsides that lead to more people experiencing dysphoria. Of course we don't all build our own cabins. We don't build our own almost-literally-everything-we-touch anymore, as individuals or as a community, and it cripples the power and immediacy of our perception of our bodies as magnificent tools for caring for ourselves and our people.
>Also, you really should learn that most functional trannies are in fact outdoorsy people. The one place (besides concerts/events/theme parties/bars) I find trannies IRL is in camping and other nature/outdoor settings.
Having done this sort of thing myself, a lot of it is walking and hanging out. It's better than nothing, but it's not the gold standard for *physically* "grounding" activity. Plenty of stimulus to connect your eyes and ears and nose to the world, but not always the all-over contact to experience it through one's physical embodiment.
>I'm a part time carpenter for hobby. I also looove cooking. None of these change the fact that I want to be socially female or the fact that estrogen has had an immensely positive effect on my mental health.
I'm sorry to hear that. I didn't claim to be offering a panacea. Just want to encourage people to be sure they've done the few small things that can be done to try and mitigate the weird bugman times we live in before making drastic changes that can't always be fully undone. And this isn't just a random thread, you know? OP seemed to be pretty much at the "I-will-try-literally-anything" stage. I don't just go around saying this to everyone with pink hair I see on the street. :)

You can't cure it but you could manage it