I really don't like having masculine features & I wanna get my facial hair removed but if I'm not on E it'll just grow back.I was on HRT for like 10 months cuz i thought i was a tranny but I reallyyyy don't want boobs, i wanna stay skinny and flat chested. Mine grew pretty fast which scares me cuz even a low dose I'd probably develop them over time.Mostly just want softer features, less hair and body fat redistribution. Anyone here in a similar situation had success with a lower dose or anything like that ?Not worried abt hair loss, no men in my family have balded
>>42570412get keyhole top surgery and pump estrogen
>>42570428What is keyhole top surgery? Don't think it's possible for me regardless, in general surgery of any kind is too expensive and don't want scarring or anything like that.
>>42570412theres just no escape, im sorry. i feel like a freak taking hrt but i dont know what else to do. the masculinization is so painful and I dont know why, I dont even want to be a woman. I just want to not feel like a monster.
>>42570499Top surgery for people with tiny chests. It's a tiny incision and leaves nearly invisible scars.
>>42570499The scars are small but it can cause nerve damage so its not rlly a good option. I just stay skinny and my chest is small. I cant go shirtless or anything and I wish I were flat but its still better than no hrt. I detrooned for a bit and it was awful.
>>42570412Pioglitazone for fat distro and Dutasteride to stop body hair growth. If you want more you can get a keyhole mastectomy (removes your breast buds) and get the other benefits of E.
>>42570651interesting, might look into this if i do decide to start HRT again. is it expensive ?
>>42570674Dutasteride wont stop body hair growth. The reduction probably wont even be noticable.
>>42570412Im going to be so real with you men have had ten thousand years to figure out a solution to twink death and even in the fucking bronze age the only thing that sort of worked was drinking the piss of pregnant horses for the estrogen in it. Wanna stay cute? It's estrogen. Always has been estrogen. Just bite the bullet or embrace maledom. There is literally no other option, and I have LOOKED.
>>42570412raloxifene stops breast growth
>>42570997raloxifene increases testosterone, it only "works" if you are castrated by other means
>>42570674bladder cancer + gyno
>>42570412>Anyone here in a similar situation had success with a lower dose or anything like that ?Regretfully, no.I just embraced the hrtits and that's it. They're the smallest cup anyway and it's really not that big of a deal. And I'm 4yrs into this (last 2 on injections mono). At age 33 I look younger than I was 4 yrs ago.>>42571003>it only "works" if you are castrated by other meansnta but I tried with bica and raloxifene still didn't "work" (not to mention its absolute risk profile which makes things worse).
>>42570980Sadly you are probably right. Life ain't easy for us
>>42571168Yeah, just buy a compression top for when you go out if/when your hrttits get too big. I also recommend heavy shirts or loose linen/cotton shirts that aren't transparent. Works just fine. You can also work out to make them more like pecs but this is only if you want to be a fit ambush-type pretty boy. And Im gonna be real I wouldn't consider myself an AGP but the fact is the nerve connections down there are objectively gonna make them feel good so at the very least you have that to look forward to.
>>42571209I miss the way my nipples felt from before hrt, before gettng a guy to touch them was my fav thing but now they just feel sore and less sensetive.
>>42571354really? They got more sensitive for me
>>42571354ig you're just defectiveplease report to the recycle center as soon as possible
>>42571209Not my thing unfortunately, i hate nipple stuff and mine were already sensitive before HRT and that just made it like 10x worse
>>42571470oh then RIP i guess, its the price of the dark bargain to stay cute and youthful
>>42571414My body belongs in a dumpster bffr
>>42570980bro what? the standard ancient method to avoid twinkdeath wasn't horse piss hrt, it was castration. of course with modern medicine i think hrt is the better choice, but castration is the traditional method
>>42571587Castration "de-masculinized" you but it didn't really feminize you, at least not consistently. I'm talking about premarinhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conjugated_estrogens>Conjugated estrogens (CEs), or conjugated equine estrogens (CEEs), sold under the brand name Premarin among others, is an estrogen medication which is used in menopausal hormone therapy and for various other indications.[10][6][1][11] It is a mixture of the sodium salts of estrogen conjugates found in horses, such as estrone sulfate and equilin sulfate.[1][11][10] CEEs are available in the form of both natural preparations manufactured from the urine of pregnant mares and fully synthetic replications of the natural preparationsThe horse piss hrt is (admittedly not directly confirmed) theorizing that prior to modern medicine any culture with access to horses would have had access to horses and horse urine and pregnant mare urine and all it would take is one freaky consistently-performed ritual for someone to notice mild feminizing effects and that's how you get stuff like the scythian transgender priestesses or whatever. My point is that this apocryphal, maybe not even real approach was the only thing that might have worked and yeah, short of cutting your dick off nothing else even came close, so if there was any other method to forestall twink death we would have found it by now but we didn't because our ancestors put everything in their mouths for insane and arbitrary reasons and one million monkeys with typewriters would have found something but no, its estrogen, we just need to accept it, anything else is cope.
>>42571088bica and ralox double doesnt work because bica makes testosterone go up and ralox makes testosterone go up, beyond the ability that bica can block and then converts the excess into estrogen. its like the worst thing you could do
as someone going through it purely to look cute and twinky i have to say yeah this feels really fucking perverted I just want to be a GUY and I want to be FLAT but I have to grow TITS for all the other benefits and they're not even ugly deformities or medical issues they are literally just TITS and since I am a man and want to stay a man they turn me on and are sensitive this is so fucking mortifying I don't wanna be an agp pervert i just want to be cute but this is literally forcing me to feel horny against my will its like living in a hentai doujin but I just want to be NORMAL
>>42571587holy shit he is so hot what an angelic prince. Where did you find this i must see more, is this the Sims ?
>>42572023>I don't wanna be an agp pervertThere's nothing wrong with being one, though.I knew almost nothing about this but turns out my wife is into forcefemming. So me doing this has improved both of our lives lul.So I'm now a normal guy in the streets but a femme tranny in the sheets.>>42571923Yeah, I realized I'm retarded quite soon after.But overall it worked out fine. My hrtits aren't big and the trade-off is worth it.
>>42572184>There's nothing wrong with being one, though.it just feels so mortifying because im honestly doing this for platonic aesthetic purposes but oh, wait, it turns out I HAVE to accept I'm growing new erogenous zones I have to actively work to conceal from the public and no matter how i feel about the situation they ARE going to turn me on. Its so depraved and undignified and its not even cool or scary. If it was like brittle bones I could be like "Well it means I'll have to be more careful but... I'll be brave and responsible..." nooo its "you are going to be flustered and horny all the time but you have to be that way secretly or you will be humiliated" this is insane i cannot believe I am living like this I need what you have if only as an outlet pray for me.
>>42572394This sounds very agp lmao. You dont 'grow new erogenous zone' that force you to be turned on, they literally feel the same as before but bigger and sore a lot of the time.
>>42572438well maybe you got it differently because for me the only sensitivity I am getting is erogenous. i did not choose this and would rather not have them but the fact is that it is affecting me. Am I just unlucky?
>>42571556please be in a dumpster nearby, ,,, i can heal you to fuck atttractive ppl
>>42572394>I need what you have if only as an outlet pray for meFinding a girl who is into forcefem is really hard because cisfs rarely admit this. Again, I am married to her and I didn't know she's into this until I brought it up as preparation to telling her that I want hrt.>>42572472>Am I just unlucky?Maybe?But do keep in mind that one neurological effect of hrt is shrinking of gray matter. This affects some emotional perceptions and also opens up repressed things.I knew I was into forcefem before taking it but I never knew how much I'd enjoy it.You probably were a liiiiitle bit agp anyway but now it's more obvious to you.I honestly don't understand why you don't embrace it. Lots of cisfs want to play around with a man's chest anyway. So that being erogenous is literally to your advantage. Why stay hung up about it?
>>42572023its just bad for me because im ugly and old (30). its like im growing tits for nothing.
>>42572560>I honestly don't understand why you don't embrace it. Lots of cisfs want to play around with a man's chest anyway. So that being erogenous is literally to your advantage. Why stay hung up about it?Its probably hangups, yeah... a life of male socialization makes it feel inherently emasculating and its not like im properly transfem, im still a guy in day to day life so it feels more indecent. I suppose since its permanent i will need to accept it
>>42572674>its not like im properly transfemWhat does that even mean?We fuck around with a hormonal hack. Transfem is the technical term for it (since we're literally feminizing our bodies). The reasons for why we're doing it are immaterial.The only difference between us and trannies is that we don't believe we're literally women. That's it. Chemically we're indistinguishable at this point and that's fine.I didn't think I'd like "girlmoding" either, but now I got into cosplay stuff. It's fun and the hrtits come in very handy. Just have fun. When are you gonna enjoy yourself? In your 60s?
>>42572755damn you might be right....
