im depressed, suicidal and alone so i guess ill turn to fucking 4chan again. i dont know if anything of use will come of it, sometimes people here give good advice. ill give brief rundown of my story>troon at 16, but i dont pass even remotely because i had basically finished puberty>boymode for a while>get in relationship with bi cisf at 16, but she "thought she was a lesbian" before she met me>eventually come out to her, but she says she "doesnt want me as a woman">this breaks my heart, eventually detransition for her, try to be a man for her>she eventually starts to abuse me, then breaks up with me and comes out as a lesbian lol>immediately retransition, this was a year ago nowi think her rejection of me as a tranny really set me back, in that, if she had been supportive, i would have the courage to just honmode or whatever i guess. but obviously that didnt happen.i have been boy/manmoding or repping for like 5 years now and i feel just completely fucked. I know I wont pass if i girlmoded. I have been told this by several people and I think honestly my ex would have wanted me if i could have passed. and i dont want to be a hon so i just keep doing this. but its so exhausting and it feels like its going nowhere. what do i do? if im supposed to just suck it up and honmode like people tell me to, how do i gather the courage? i feel like some form of encouragement from like girl friends would help, but i dont really have any friends in the first place at all, so i dont know what to do
just wear the dress, alice
>>42574299but, nona i dont want to be a hon. i feel like theres gotta be something in between full blown hon man-in-a-dress presentation and just manmoding, right? Ive been trying to dress like a faggy or alt male recently to an extent and thats been a little bit better i thinkgif unrel
>>42574315idk lol I wear women's skinnies it's nbd
I haven't met many women that like transwomen, but one I met made it clear it was a feminization kink, a very ingrained kink that she have always had, so I think you shouldn't worry about your ex, these people want someone to feminize not a girl
>>42574285I mean.. its hard to tell if ur bdd without knowing whst you look like..
>>42574323i already do that a little. i just want to do something more. like i said there has to be something in between full manmoding and full honmoding, and i think that's at least a better start. i just need to gather the courage>these people want someone to feminize not a girl:(yea probably>>42574341should i post an unsee or whatever? or just poast face straight out
>>42574357forgot to quote >>42574329for the middle one lol first thread in months and im fucking it up
>>42574357Its up to you. Generally though from experience I always thought I passed worse than I did simply because I got gendered male a lot. Turns out most cissoids are idiots that think long hair = female 90% of the time.
>>42574374ive never done an unsee before so hopefully it isnt fucked up. one of these is probably the "best" photo i have (without makeup at least) but its like anglefrauded. the other is more candid and shows how strong my jaw is. im dressed like shit in both of these i know, im focused on the face specifically, i think thats what's importanthttps://unsee cc/album#4rrOMG9loDZa
>>42574374also>Turns out most cissoids are idiots that think long hair = female 90% of the timei have always had long hair, even since i was youngthe real blackpill is that its also not even voice. ive been maskfrauding recently and ive malefailed even using moidvoice. this makes me think its just my face, or maybe body, although i do think body is largely irrelevant to passing, at least compared to face
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>how do i stop manmodingyou don't
>>42574285>and it feels like its going nowhereThat’s because hrt doesn’t change bone plates>>42576221This, it’s all ogre now.
>>42574285Amazing that not even trannies are immune to BPDfoid abuseYou'd think the no libido would help with that.
>>42576221its over>>42577107im more concerned with face but yea>>42577120:(
