I really really regret taking estrogen
>>42574975but now you're pretty
No refunds
>>42574975This is why we need more medical gatekeeping, so I don’t have to keep reading posts from faketrans shitters crying about their self inflicted stupidity
>>42575034>"Retards are why I should have to pay more doctors to tell me what I already know for years before i can transition, so nobody can be a youngshit ever again."
>>42574975Why? It does almost nothing unless you took a huge amount of it consistently starting from when you were like 12 to the point where your voice never dropped and your dick is 2 inches erect (and even then your skeleton will still look typically male).Threadly reminder not to fall for mtf fetishposting. A lot of them have the need to perpetuate the delusion estradiol turns you into some giant tits bimbo when really you'll look exactly the same with some mild gyno that can barely fill an AAA cup.
>>42574975did you grow tits at least, why do you regret it frog poster?post pic
>>42575050Really everyone should have left kids out of transsexual discussions to begin with. That was one of the more obvious tactical errors of the modern lgbt. 18 is more than early enough unless you have cursed neanderthal genetics. There was never any need to talk about children.
>>42575058it’s not so much the effects, I just regret irreparably ruining my chances of ever being a normal man
>>42575077How is it irreparable if there weren't any substantial effects? Just stop taking estradiol and live a normal male life, or keep taking it and live a normal male life up until the point where your future wife wants to have kids and then you should probably stop for real at least for a few months.
>>42575066Fuck you piece of worthless shit, go drive yourself off a cliff and die slowly while being impaled by a rock. Why should cis kids get the right puberty while trans kids need raped by wrong puberty for 18 years?T. Started at 18 neandrathalhon.
>>42575077What is a normal man?And don't tell me what it isn't, like someone with tits. Tell me what it is.
>>42575050If you have a problem getting a medical diagnosis then maybe you’re just faketrans. Ever consider that?
op is baiting, this is psyop thread #90909090909
>>42575103Not really the same thing since regular kids going through regular puberty just entails not doing anything to them.The concept of transsexual children in contrast involves doing things to alter them.The results aren't that good anyway. Kim Petras started as a child and is skeleton-mogged by Natalie Mars who started at age 30.Nobody should be allowed to have any sort of involvement with transsexual topics until at least age 18. If some underage kid is desperate enough to find a way to get hormones illegally then that's his or her accomplishment I guess, but no adults should make that easy for them.
>>42575103same, I started at 18 and I've been on it a few months and it's still over for me bc of my male bone development
>>42575108>"Oh no, the entirely reversible effects of added hormones, how will they pass as their agab?"
>>42575108the problem is a) wait time and b) transsexualism as a medical construct is inherently transphobic (+sexist +homophobic +femmephobic)
>>42575095I have gyno and a shrunken dick and even if I could reverse those things I don’t think i can mentally handle that I did this to myself. At least before I could convince myself I could be a normal man bc this shit was all in my head but now I’ve basically turned my schizo thoughts into reality, I can never escape it now>>42575105straight, masculine, wants a family, can hold a job, not on weird medication, you know like the majority of males
>>42575123I kind of suspect this too. There have been a lot of "I regret taking estrogen" threads tonight.Although a side effect of that was whenever a chud would respond to one of those threads with "you should have just been a feminine man," it was baiters taking bait.
>>42575125>"Right puberty is only agab puberty, even if it permanently alters the body and makes the child depressed and suicidal! Look, I found one luckshit to disprove that youngshits disproportianlly pass better than lateshits! Adults should tell their kids "don't worry, you'll enjoy being a hairy broad husband man unlike your sisters that get to be pretty women" Their entire life until their kid kills themselves, that's really only fair."
>>42574975same
>>42575034let's be real he's probably just a depressed repper>>42575058literally every trans girl who has been on hormones for more than a second has boobs bigger than in this strange study
>>42575123>>42575185this is not a bait thread I really do regret what I’ve done to myself and im just lying here alternating alternating between scrolling on my phone and crying into my pillow
>>42575172If you're being serious then...>gyno and shrunken dickThese can be reversed.>straight, masculineI'll give you these.>wants a family, can hold a jobNot inherently male, but also not inherently bad goals.>not on weird medicationThis a "not" rather than an "is," but keep in mind that half the adult men in the western world are on finasteride, which can give you gyno and a shrunken dick.>mentally handle that I did this to myselfI suspect that if you started taking hrt, you probably weren't entirely straight and/or mentally stable to begin with. You have to be a little gentle with yourself.The most genuinely masculine thing you can do is take responsibility for your actions and plunge into the future. That matters more than moobs.
>>42575218Most every mtf I see pics of here does not have large breasts. Stereotypical mtf breasts look small and pointy.>inb4 the "of course they do, female puberty takes years!" memeThe study found growth stops for the most part after the first 6 months.
>>42575144Would rather have that then the absolute sissified gigaogrerapehons that are stomping into the women’s restroom to shit standing up.
>>42575278the study does not contain data past what one yeari am talking about mtfs i've seen in person or my own breasts i do not look at boobs on 4chan
>>42575290>the study does not contain data past what one yearYeah, and it saw growth stopped within the first 6 months. Do you seriously believe their breasts grew during the 6 months, stopped for an entire 6 months after that, and then grew to be large during the next year?
>>42575290Also how are you even seeing multiple mtfs in person? Are you going to speedrunner conventions or something? There shouldn't be enough transsexuals to just randomly run into them in real life.
>>42575307no but i do believe there is a sudden spurt followed by a decade of slow growth which the intentionally misinterpreted so as to confirm their and your preconceived notions about the defects of our bodies
>>42575315no at like bars and parties and shit not autism festivals
>>42575269ofc I’m not entirely straight and certainly not mentally stable but I could’ve been, I could’ve been normal if I just tried harder instead of being so dumb and lazy. I want to be a normal male and the point is that I feel as long as there isn’t anything concretely separating me from a normal man than I am one no matter what kind of schizo thoughts are swirling through my head, but now I’ll forever be “faking it” there’s no way I’ll be able to convince myself there isn’t something dreadfully wrong with me after I ruined my body like this
Well aren’t you lucky that estrogen does basically nothing
>>42575327I wish autism festivals were real bros
ah yes Epstein file details and now you faggot ass glowies are ramping up psyopsi want nothing to do with you lot; why must you manufacture conflict to meet a bastardized sense of "ambition"?I'm appalled; you've let the cake rot, and insist on eating yourself sick yet still.detestable. let it be known I'm planted firmly askewI'm plum happy stirring in the mudI'd rather that scarce sheen and the fabled rainbow then to guzzle down prosperity whilst deriving othersif you insist on parsing a beautiful slurry you'd be best served not using a blender you old fogie better yet learn the culture you're so desperate trying to usurpyou don't intimidate medeath is inevitable live satisfied; know that I'm in the moment ur lil tug of war makes me ill
Really everyone should start off by microdosing for a year to see if they really want it
>>42575389that's just wasting a year not doing anythingand then op would get scared of having girl hormones inside him and be posting the same thing even though they didn't even do anything (apparently they shrunk his pp)
>>42575389If you're an adult you can just regular dose it. Most likely you won't get any breast growth beyond what is easily played off as regular naturally occurring gyno.And if you're the one in a hundred who does get substantial breast growth it's not like it's going to just appear one day. You'll have plenty of warning and can stop at any time and most likely whatever growth you already got will go down a decent bit after you're no longer on hrt.If mtfs didn't delusion-post so much about this topic you wouldn't have reppers driving themselves crazy trying to come up with microdosing or ralox schemes to prevent a problem that never existed to begin with.
>>42575421reppers should have large breasts implanted so they have to stop repping
>>42575430Oh man, that would be terrible, haha, can you imagine? I would hate that, please, I mean please don't...>t. repper
>>42575430Or we could just tell reppers the truth about how the vast majority of mtfs don't even get beyond an A cup so they stop worrying about needing to hide something they won't get anyway.
man not a nibble? I'd cry wolf sayyur screwing the ecosystem nahhhj all lil mecha fishies... y'all need a new designer blegh
>>42575453good idea then when they grow breasts they will be forced go girlmode
>>42575421or just not take the boob getting drugs if you dont want to get boobs? why ar eppl so f retart
>>42575453>>42563060>>42558097
>>42574975I really really really regret not taking estrogen
>>42575411>apparently they shrunk his ppyes but there are pills for shrunken pps and they tend to shrink naturally after a man's 30s which is exactly why so many men say fuck it and experiment with estrogen in their 30s-40s because quite frankly if you haven't had children and you are a man already in your 30s-40s it becomes harder and giving up on a revolving door of heterosexual relationships is easy. more to my point that gender ideology gatekeepers hate these perfect specimens for experimentation for no good reason! if you malefail out of being a transsexual, there is always another pill you can take. gender dysphoria isn't always the anser to somatoform dissociations. most people who malefail out within 2 years can continue living without much disruption.
luckshits who want everyone to start HRT after your bones become unconcealably male and have to go to cissoid subhuman doctooos to get a diagnosis should be hanged from lamppoststhat you were estrogenized by your genetics and never a real man deprives you from the right to speak on behalf of the average trannyI'm not even gonna waste my time quoting (You)r shit privileged sexual mutant assburger takesIf you're not what I described then this subhuman radmed honscience spam is even more pathetic