>"AMAB" faggot (obviously)>Find it easier to socialize with women honestly>Have been on estrogen for a span of 2 years before, liked it>Don't really feel dysphoria either way>Only detransitioned because "trutrans" types made me feel insecure>Find straight men hotter than most gay guys I've met>I'm completely fine being the "woman" in the relationship or whatever, honestly love it when guys treat me extremely femininely>Highkey AAP tho, could probably jerk off to myself if I cut my hair shorter and worked out, and I feel attached to the status I feel I have going into an increasingly female-dominated career as a man
>>42575033There are bi men who will treat you like the woman in the relationship. You don’t need to troon out to find a straight passing bi dude.
>>42575033youre the rare true nonbinary person
>>42575043I've gotten that a few times, feels wild. Honestly though I feel like there's more genuinely non-binary or third gender people than some faggot like me. I probably just have an oversocialized personality disorder to be honest>>42575041Yeah but I wont get that experience where a guy grabs my tits in a way where he obviously wants me *as (at least) a woman-lite*, you know? I won't be the one to have a non-fuctioning dick, etc.
>>42575067how do you feel towards male and female physical sexual characteristics in yourself? what about social ones?
>>42575067>non functioning dick But you’d jerk off to yourself if you were hotter? I don’t really get it. Honestly this is all sounding like you’re not really into straight guys, you just want a straight guy to validate you as feminine, which is classic MEF. Because if you could get a straight bi dude just by being a guy the sissy stuff about having a limp nonfunctional penis, and being grabbed by the tits, wouldnt really be so important
>>42575092To me, there is no distinction between sexual and social characteristics. They are all signifiers which communicate to those outside of you. Right now, masculinity often protects me beyond gay clubs, however, some weird bi guys seem to sniff out my androgyny, which is a little scary. Like I've been around truly rapey guys who will come up to me on the train and shit purely because I shaved that day, it's awful. However, I love when guys treat me femininely in a respectful and mutually agreed manner (to give an extreme example: rubbing my hole as if it were pussy on a hookup) and when women treat me as someone safe to be around. But, honestly, it is all so social and depends so much on the wider context of the situation that I have no clue anymore. Maybe I sound like a psychopath because I could easily assimilate and signify whatever based on what is most advantageous in the moment, but that is genuinely how I feel; it's all bodily symbols and I will use it in whatever way is safest or best for me or others at that point
>>42575097When I say I'm into straight guys, yes I partially mean I want to be validated as feminine (which I feel is normal among many desperate trans girls anyways?), but also I just meant that like guys in straight guys are so much more attractive to me than faggots. What do you even mean by "straight bi dude" anyways? Even if they seem straight passing, which I understand, they usually expose themselves as complete faggots eventually from my experience.
>>42575165*in straight barsSorry I'm extremely drunk, christ
>>42575137how do you feel about body hair, facial hair, deep/high-pitched voice, boobs, hips/shoulders width, female/male body fat pattern, height, etc. in yourself? does it really depend on the context for all of that?
>>42575165>thinks straight men are into tranniesOh dear
>>42575199the most straight leaning bi guys will never commit either
>>42575033>Only detransitioned because "trutrans" types made me feel insecureHuge mistake. And I'm really tired of all of this shit.HRT is a chemical. You like it, you keep taking it. You don't like it, you stop it. All the rest is noise and ideological BS.>Highkey AAP tho, could probably jerk off to myself if I cut my hair shorter and worked out, and I feel attached to the status I feel I have going into an increasingly female-dominated career as a manHrtwink is a thing, tho.I basically girlmode almost everywhere except at work and this is one of the reasons lol.There is no "rule" that says you have to do X but not Y because you shoot up estrogen. That's just tranny brainworms and a lot of envy. Plenty of people online are shutins and envy/hate trannies that make it IRL.>Maybe I sound like a psychopath because I could easily assimilate and signify whatever based on what is most advantageous in the moment, but that is genuinely how I feel; it's all bodily symbols and I will use it in whatever way is safest or best for me or others at that pointBased. Very similar to how I function. Except I didn't stop my shots.Be girl in the sheets and whatever-you-want-in-that-moment in the streets. It works. Been doing it for many years already. Ignore the envious anons.
>>42575222I am literally married to one. Skill issue
>>42575179I remember liking my boobs, I don't even really think about my body anymore beyond how attracted other faggots will be to it. And, yes, it depends on the context. Some guys will like that I have left over breast tissue while others will have an issue with it, so it matters then. And I really don't want to deal with some drunk gay guy who wants my supposed "pecs" to be muscular to get mad at me, while a bi guy lowkey loving how feminine my chest is is fine, right. If some gay guy wants me to be a super masculine, skelatal twink, I wont be able to provide that for him, but some guy who wants someone with wide hips, slight tits, and body hair? Sure. My voice is super gay/androgynous, so it doesn't matter. Honestly, when I wake up and get that post-drinking anxiety, I hate my beard at times. I hate, in the moment, the fact that others have seen me with it. I might even feel embarrassed for my deeper voice at times. But I'm also embarrassed about other things in that moment as well. But I don't linger on it. However, I can also be quite numb; I have literally physically cried without feeling a single thing emotionally, so I don't really know anymore how I'm doing inside. I would prefer to have a more feminine build though, more frankly, I don't like the idea of broad shoulders. I also drink a lot, so I don't feel a much or, at other times, deceptively feel too much depending on the night. Most of the time, I just think about things beyond my body, and am trying to keep myself from being a complete wreck
>>42575233Most of us would never give up the potential of being a father.
>>42575227>Huge mistake. And I'm really tired of all of this shit.>HRT is a chemical. You like it, you keep taking it. You don't like it, you stop it. All the rest is noise and ideological BS.Honestly, you're an angel. I wish I had more like you around a few years ago.
>>42575279We plan on adopting. Turns out you can have kids without procreating. Amazing huh?
>>42575253imo its worth for you to retrans then, your preferences seem to fall to the fem side
>>42575282I'm not an angel. Just a very realistic hrt user.I'm literally "just a feminine man" but I'm doing right as opposed to the copium that repers engage in.And I really need to finish that document that I promised on this board.
>>42575279>Most of us>us/lgbt/
>>42575303>I really need to finish that document that I promised on this board.expand anon
>>42575288this will never be like having your own
>>42575316I started working last week on a long document on how being an hrtwink actually works IRL. With some deboonking of the common disinformation about hrt that circulates on this board.I was hoping to finish it by the middle of this week but,... I haven't. Though it's 90% ready.Drop me a line at hrtwink90[at]proton.me and I'll send it to you too once it's finally ready. Could be tomorrow, could be next Thursday. But it will be done before the middle of the month for sure.
>>42575306us in this context obviously being straight leaning bi tops
>>42575339Telling families who adopt that their family is inferior is evil and disgusting.
>>42575347>mentions 4chan directly but not other places because they are "better left unamed"You're fucked, I'm sorry
>>42575347>transgender lifestyle >looksmaxxingumm ok. and you keep saying “we”. who the fuck is the “we”? what transmaxxing groomer Discord is this for?
>>42575378the doc is not just for this place. Since I put a bit of work in it already, I want to be able to pass it to more "normie" estrogenized dudes as well.4chan is now normie-coded already lol.
>>42575299Yeah, but guys love my thick cock so I don't know, I'm willing to top with it purely because it (hedonistically) feels good and I get to pretend to be the big men I watch in porn. I don't know... lol
>>42575378lol I thought the same thing.Our go to "at least we're not" is usually kiwifarms, and that's clearly not what's being referenced here, so I'm very curious to know what those other places were.
>>42575383>who the fuck is the “we”?Me, my wife and several other hrt users.None of us use Discord. I never had a discord account to begin with.
>>42575394>so I'm very curious to know what those other places wereI will not disclose that at all.It's not important for the discussion. The document will have 30-35 pages. You can ignore the first 3 and go straight to the meat. I'm doing it for free just because an anon here convinced me that I should put this stuff in writing.
>>42575399>his "cis" wife
>>42575422Evidently he thinks cis is a slur?
>>42575388restart hrt and if that bothers you just stop. it doesnt change much if you keep using it anyway
>>42575355didn't say it was inferior, it's just not the same as having your own
>>42575429No, I don't think it's a slur. I also don't think it's a good enough word either.Accommodating everyone's shibboleths in a document meant to cut through bs is hard, lol.
