So I was reading the morning news today when I saw an article from a licensed doctor on the front page GENUINELY advocating for bringing back conversion therapy for trans people as "If psychotherapy gets a young person to accept their healthy body, its an act of kindness and not malice"I live in fucking SWEDEN, which yes I know isn't the best country in Europe to be trans, but still. An article like that about gay people would never get published in a million years. And what was the underlying study informing this sentiment? A study showing FEMALES taking testosterone have a 33-50% chance to stop and admit to regret their actions.Not a single time in the article were MTFs mentioned, just FTMs and theyfabs. Seriously, how can the trans community survive this kind of stuff?
>>42576275It's just stupid fucking propaganda And yes they don't focus on gays more bc the backlash would be bigger
>>42576275>Seriously, how can the trans community survive this kind of stuff?Are you not aware of the different variants of trans people that existed previously in other countries....?
>>42576275>study showing FEMALES taking testosterone have a 33-50% chance to stop and admit to regret their actions.Show us the study then. Let's see it.
>>42576275If 35-50% of FtMs stop it and regret it then it's pretty obvious somewhere there's an issue. This is what brought down Tavestock in the UK, it was clear the professionals were not really helping in therapy or suggesting any alternative other than medical transition.
>>42576275>Not a single time in the article were MTFs mentionedIn the us trans survey (big one) it was actually mtfs that were more likely to detrans. So I would like to see this study
>>42576299I have stopped t at one point regretted it and then hopped back on it. It was because of transphobia and poverty. Hard to say whats up without seeing what this "study" is based on. So op link the study here
>>42576296>>42576317It was an opinion-piece, so the guy writing it didn't name any actual studies, simply referring to them as "A study done in the US", "A study done in Uppsala" etc.Still, its fucked an article like that was even able to be posted.
>>4257627533-50% is such a weird range like it makes it sounds like there were two studies one with a sample size of 2 that found 1 out 2 detransed and the other had a sample size of 3 where 1 out of 3 people detransed. It's either that or completely fabricated altogether
>>42576351A study done in Uppsala showed what lmao
>>42576422You'd think that would be proof of the opposite but the article takes it as saying "The current Swedish medical process for reversing transgenderism is too difficult, it needs to be made easier to save our youth"Here is the full article if anybody wants to translate it.
>>42576422Now I understand why OP didn't link the article lol poor lad forgot anti-poonism was a pedo psyop
>>42576433>>42576436Someone should show them this article I guess https://www.uu.se/en/news/2025/2025-10-06-very-few-regret-a-legal-gender-change-in-sweden
>>42576433>"...Last autumn, a well-known study from Uppsala University showed that of the approximately 2,000 people who changed their gender between 2013 and 2023, only one percent had (during an average observation period ofSAMTAL PAGARfive years) made this arduous journey back to their original legal gender."Where's the 30-55%?
>Study shows almost nobody regrets gender change>The mainstream media takes this to represent that regretting your gender change is too hard and needs to be easierThis is genuinely UK levels of TERF rhetoric, how do we stop this?
>>42576433I don't speak swedish but I bet they are scared cause massive amounts of young girls are becoming boys and try to defend their worry with false numbers. I know teen ftms from sweden and they all diy, so no conversion therapy can touch them :D
>>42576478idk, we can't really openly fight it, what we need is to build a underground path for trans people who want to get the help they need.I'm still busy in my life on another project right now, but I really do want to look into how to produce my own hrt.
>>42576573>I'm still busy in my life on another project right nowNot gonna happen then
>>42576433I think I found the usa study they're referring to when they say a third discontinues HRT after 4 years. The study they're talking about is about people not renewing their prescription they got from the US military healthcare system. It doesn't imply if people regret taking HRT or if they simply renewed their prescription elsewhere. https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/107/9/e3937/6572526
Being a man sucks and being a manlet sucks more. MTF passing = upgrade. MTF honmoding = same shit. FTM passing = downgrade. FTM theyfabmoding = same shit.
>>42577195Makes no sense as there are far more ftms transitioning than mtfs. Ftms also have lower detrans rate, so it seems they are very happy. It must he cause they get to experience male priviledge.
>>42577228>there are far more ftms transitioning than mtfsBecause there's no stigma against a girl putting on jeans and a backwards hat and saying "I'm a boy now!", so why wouldn't they experiment if all the other girls are doing it>Ftms also have lower detrans rateThere have been multiple definitions of "detrans" in this thread alone so I'm not sure about that claim. Anyway since there's no stigma in calling yourself a boy and wearing jeans, there's nothing to detrans from.
>>42577427Trans masculine people are medically transitioning more than mtfs so there is something about being a male thats alluring to women.
