At least a few reasons:1) Thinking you’re the opposite sex is a denial of reality and is therefore on the spectrum of insanity. It is not possible to be mentally stable and to think you’re a woman with testicles2) So often, these men have been convinced they’re women through addiction to hardcore, violent pornography that depicts women or “sissified” men as objects of lust. This encourages the perverse sexualization of themselves and the demeaning of actual women3) Men’s bodies are not made to tolerate high levels of estrogen. This has a destabilizing physical as well as psychological impact 4) They are addicted to Reddit and other online forums that radicalize them with a victimization narrative which, in their minds, justifies them taking their anger out on society All of this has gone on far too long. Every single aspect of this pipeline must be shut down. The doctors, the anonymous forums, the porn, the media tolerance of it. Toxic empathy led us here—not love. And it’s time for it to stop.
>>42651434How many are on HRT with e and t levels that of a womans?
>>42651434Your little chud fantasy doesn't match up with reality as everything you've said has no scientific basis, no peer reviewed research, no support from the scientific community Go back to humping your bibble and screaming about jebus
>>42651780>thinks you have to believe in Jesus to simply notice the fact that men aren’t women >posts his zoophilic beastiality male rape self-insert fantasy as a reaction image Ok guys I was wrong tranny males are actually normal and mentally healthy. Nothing to see here folks
>>42651709Who cares? Whether male trannies have the exact same hormonal levels as real women is completely irrelevant to the validity of the points raised
>>42651780You know full well that points #2 and #4 apply to you personally
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>>42651780Im trans, read the bible and love jesus. Ignore the jews (old testament). Jesus loves you!Proof (new testament):> For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it> matthew 19:12>> Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.> John 7:24Those are nearly direct quotes from Jesus HIMSELF, saying non-reproducing types, including literally ones who cut their genitals off by choice, are allowed in heaven. That it does not matter how you dress or what you like to wear. Just marriage is sacred for man and woman, as child raising is sacred for the two. There is a implied slight against gay men, but trans and lesbians are okay with jesus. Just try to be a good person. That starts by letting go of anger by forgiving others.
>>42651882Youre right, if you ignore science and empirical evidence, then any claim is possible, including your own.
>>42651434>1) denial of reality and is therefore on the spectrum of insanity>2) addiction to hardcore, violent pornography>3) destabilizing physical as well as psychological impact >4) online forums that radicalize them with a victimization narrative
>>42651961What’s the “data and empirical evidence” that says you aren’t addicted to violent degrading sissy porn and this wasn’t a primary factor in you becoming trans? You know, that thing that factually did happen in your life? You got a SOURCE for that?
>>42651973>“maga are the REAL perverts!”>has multiple tabs open masturbating to hentai, furry and diaper fetish porn while multi tasking replying to this thread
>>42651989The rise of misogynistic incels is closely correlated with increased access to degrading pornography
>>42651961I never claimed that male trannies has the “exact same hormone levels as women”. The post says that taking female hormones is damaging to males physically and mentally. Stop with these pathetic low IQ cluster B personality attempts at manipulation, you suck at it
>>42652022So was your personal gender identification and transition. True or false?
>>42651989i dont and never have watched degrading or violent porn of any kind. And if i had, it never aroused me or was viewed long enough to stay in my memory.
>>42652037It's plainly false in cases where children experience gender dysphoria, as they don't access such material
>>42652041You’re just redefining what “violent” means. I don’t mean rape or snuff films, I mean sissies being dominated submissively, riding big dildos, getting fucked in the ass etc. This type of pornography was formative for your new gender identity. Stop trying to pretend you were just this “chaste” tranny who isn’t it porn, nobody believes you you pathetic liar
>>42652056Children don’t “experience gender dysphoria”, they get groomed and/or raped into it by their parents
>>42652066Hasn't one of your premises been that degrading pornography is formative in inducing dysphoria? Now it can simply be the influence of a parent?
>>42652003>you’re a pervert, because i’m pretending you are!
>>42651434SILENCE JEW TRANS WHITES ARE WHITE RIGHTS
>>42651973>>42651434>I know I'm male but that I feel better and more productive in society when dosing on estrogen and having more woman-like characteristics and social roles>I have actually never gotten off to regular porn let alone hard-core porn, only romantic erotic literature about magically becoming a woman where the sex is implied>Estrogen reduces testosterone, which should actually make someone less impulsive and more likely to show emotions to others and talk about it rather than do something violent>From your viewpoint these forums turn possible shooters into lazy bitchy uwu femboys who would be less likely to do bad things
>>42652025Huh? Thats not what I was claiming you said. My point is show me a study or anything, that says high estrogen + low T increases aggression and violence. Theres numerous studies to show high T doing that. Its not some conspiracy. Its not even some complicated mystical "male-brain" vs "female-brain" meme. Its hormonal profiles that cause changes physically and mentally, and those changes (MtF) is clearly a shift away from aggression and violence. Theres tons of evidence for this as well as simple observations with your eyes. Women are less violent than men. Why? And you can disagree with transwomen being women, but women are less violent due to hormone levels. Theyre even irrational at times from them. This isnt esoteric.
>>42651434You voted for cannibals and pedophiles, this thread is getting deleted soon anyway
>>42652003>mfw the retards are still arguing about trans people in the culture war I started that is publically accessible information so that they dont start noticing the class of unironic satanic cannibal elitesAh youre prolly a bot or 15 anyways.
>>42652059> sex is violence> masturabtion is violenceI mean i kind of see your point with sub/dom thing, but how is just having sex violent? Or masturbating? Self pleasure is violent act against yourself??? Sounds like you're overly broadening the definition. Not even trying to "no u" you, but thats ridicilulous. Im not saying i never watched porn. Im arguing my porn preferences were never something most would consider offensive. Porn I do watch, i like for a little backstory or narrative, not even for what they show. More the ideas presented. Also MtF hormones, greatly decrease this, so maybe transition is a solution to porn addiction?
>>42652003Wait oop- u clocked my gag sis i had yaoi tabs open
>>42652059>No-one believes youBro we're on 4chan lmao nobody's opinions on here are worth the electricity used to type them out.
>>42651434Its male socialization, worst of both worlds antisocial personality
>>42652120>Theres numerous studies to show high T doing thatShow those studies
>>42652091>it can only be one or the other! you have to choose!
>>42651950Repent of your Marcionism please.T. troon
>>42652291This is a waste of my time. Fortunately I have nothing else to do!> Baseline testosterone shared a weak but significant association with aggression> source: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31785281/> This study found that inmates with higher testosterone concentrations had more often been convicted of violent crimes> source: https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/saliva-testosterone-and-criminal-violence-young-adult-prison> 72.5% male offenders > https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/table-42/table-42.xls> source: your eyesThese are all statistically significant. In stats, that means deviations beyond "bad rolls" "bad data sample". Meaning theres is almost certainly something inherent to T levels in terms of violence. Any MtF taking HRT, would not have that.
>>42652440You dont have to all encompass reject the old testament, and im sorry if i implied that. Just there are clear, direct quotes of Jesus contradicting old testament, and its not accidental or le stupid christians, its intentional. Jesus died for yours and my sins. He freed us from many evils of jews. Obviously not everything the jews were doing was evil at that time. They took truth and distorted it (subverted it) and the purpose of Jesus was to correct it as the final prophet, the messiah. The freedom of what you wear and eat (why christians eat pork) is from jesus directly saying not to judge persons by that. Despite the old testament saying dont eat pork and man shall not wear womens clothing. Both jesus says not to judge one on. And jesus himself says eunuchs are accepted into heaven. Eunuchs meaning non-reproducing types, which absolutely would have been their term for transgenders. You shouldnt haphazardly reinterpret the bible, the word of GOD, but it does require some educated context to understand it.
>>42651434At least a few reasons:>1) Thinking you’re the opposite sex is a denial of reality and is therefore on the spectrum of insanity. It is not possible to be mentally stable and to think you’re a woman with testiclesI don’t have balls and when I did they were malformed and removed>2) So often, these men have been convinced they’re women through addiction to hardcore, violent pornography that depicts women or “sissified” men as objects of lust. This encourages the perverse sexualization of themselves and the demeaning of actual womenPornography is demoralizing and disgusting it hurts not only women but the men who are tricked into the fantasy while not understanding its immoral objectification. Sex itself is immoral imo, I refrain from any practice as it stops my ascetic life>3) Men’s bodies are not made to tolerate high levels of estrogen. This has a destabilizing physical as well as psychological impactMine was, I developed female secondary sex characteristics despite being born “male”, for all purposes I am a mistake and a failure genetically>4) They are addicted to Reddit and other online forums that radicalize them with a victimization narrative which, in their minds, justifies them taking their anger out on society I’m banned from Reddit because I am anti Islam and anti sex, both are disgustinr I’ve made my stance clear also I’m pro imperialism
Anon, I recognize that you are probably brain poisoned enought to believe this, but I don't think this tack is really going to stick with most people. The stereotypes about trans women, and trans people, don't line up with ultraviolent terrorism in most cases. `
>>42651434there would be much less mental problems in people in general, if ones such as yourself just knew when to fuck off
>>42651434Yes, but it wasn't JUST toxic empathy that got us here. There was also a concerted effort to deny men and women are fundamentally different, spearheaded by 3rd wave feminism and Judith Butler. Letting that untruth slip through the cracks is what led to the perception that man and woman are interchangeable.
>>42651709>How many are on HRT with e and t levels that of a womanSounds like gatekeeping to me
1) Transgender has never been considered as a mental illness or insanity. I am an intersex woman (assigned female at birth) with testicles. Who do you think I am?2) There is no valid evidence where pornography causes someone to become a transgender man, a transgender woman, or a non-binary person. Unless you have terrible parents, no underaged childen will watch pornography whatsoever.3) Estrogen in both men and women have both been widely studied, even with extremely high levels. A lot of people do not know this but all newborn babies are born as as biologically female first before the sex reproductive system develops a few weeks later. There is a reason why Endocrine Society and WPATH standards exist to help protect trans men, trans women, and non-binary people from medicinal complications.4) None of the public crime statistics show transgender women (or any other transgender person) commits crimes at higher rates than cisgender men. What the public crime statistics DO tell us is that transgender people are more likely to be victims of violence from cisgender men and cisgender women because of harassment, stalking, and prejudice.We are already at the point of trans women replacing cis women in the future once trans women breastfeeding, womb transplants, and other procedures become more common and popular.Penis transplants and womb transplants are already being done for cis people but not for trans people yet because lack of medical research and requires approval from regulatory bodies.^ If you look at https://wombtransplantuk.org/about/who-is-eligible - you would see "Biological female XX." They even made an article titled "The Potential for Operations for Transgender Women" at https://wombtransplantuk.org/fact-sheet/the-potential-for-operations-for-transgender-women
>>42653361>I am an intersex woman (assigned female at birth) with testiclesYou're male.Also, intersex isn't trans.Not OP.
>>42652881Is it possible that transwomen and transmen, know that they are not biological women and men respectively? Like maybe when transwomen say they are women, they simply mean in regards to how they would like to be treated, and others choices to do so or otherwise is simply manners? When a biological woman says her name is Emily, and you respond with "whatever SMELLily!" That its the same as calling transwomen him/he? Its mean. Its not about facts or delusions. Maybe emily does smell? Idk, but you are saying it to hurt their feelings. Its the same with trans, imo. You dont have to respect pronouns (yes I hate the lgbtq community for that) and no one is saying transwomen are biological women. They are saying this is a person, born a man, that wants to be treated as a woman, because it makes them feel bad otherwise, and by telling you their pronouns or that they are transgender they are trying to help you not be mean to them accidently. Accidents happen. People misprounce names. People take mistakes as slights. Its normal. But going out of your way to refer to transwomen as men is same as intentionally mispronouncing emilys name to be mean.
>>42653361>Transgender has never been considered as a mental illnessWhat? Only in 2019 did the World Health Organization reclassify trannies as not mental illness.And 2013 was when the American Psychiatric Association removed trannies from the DSM-5.
> You're male.Definitely not. That is not how science works at all.> Also, intersex isn't trans.Intersex is not trans but there are intersex people who do identify as trans. That is not the point of my statement.
>>42653361>all newborn babies are born as as biologically female first before the sex reproductive system develops a few weeks laterNo, what the fuck? Male fetuses have a penis and testicles.
> No, what the fuck? Male fetuses have a penis and testicles.No they do not. They only develop that a couple weeks later. Early development of male fetuses do not have penises nor testicles.Imagine not knowing how your own body works. There are quite a lot of people on 4chan who has not done their own research properly.The reason why AMAB people have areolas, milk glands, mammary glands, etc. is a feature inherited as a newborn baby because all humans are born as female due to the excessive high estrogen produced by the placenta of a cis woman.
>>42653435>Definitely not. That is not how science works at all.You have testicles, which means you have the tissues that can produce small gametes, which makes you male. Intersex does not preclude sex categorization, and almost all intersex is actually categorizable. That is in fact how "the science" heckin works, hormone levels are irrelevant to sex category as is sexual differentiation.You're male. Sorry to take away your special feelgood identity.>Intersex is not trans but there are intersex people who do identify as trans.When you immediately pivot from transfer to intersex in a trans topic, it's obvious what you're doing. Dont be surprised when you get called out.
>>42653490>newborn babyA newborn is an infant that has been delivered by the mother, retard. You know, BORN. Are you 12 or something?
>>42653490>all humans are born as female>when you get your differentiation and dimoephism knowledge from IFLScience and Reddit HonsThis is not true, btw, and if you knew anything about wolfian ducts vs mullein ducts, you'd understand why.
>>42651434Nobody is a mass shooter because they’re trans They’re trans because they’re level 1 ASD (or undiagnosed), with enough cognitive capacity to function but persistent social failure, likely ADHD and depression comorbidity, weak consolidated identity, and heavy internet immersion as a substitute for real world connection. Those are also among the same reasons why they’re a mass shooter. Expanding on their identity, they’re the Blanchard AGP phenotype - distinct from early onset gender dysphoria - this is the porn brained pathway. Very transbian (which has a disproportionately high relationship to ASD). They run into the hyper-welcoming Reddit and discord communities and find their identity there. Their identity plays virtually no role in their future act of violence rather the identity is just a symptom of their broader psychosocial issues. This person is the same person as the lonely, socially failed, psychiatrically complex young male with heavy internet use who ends up in white nationalist spaces. Discord nazi and transbian spaces draw from the same population pool and the ideological endpoint is incidental. “You’re suffering because you were born the wrong gender/ we are under attack” and “you’re suffering because of the Semite led undermenschen” fill the same need. It is really lame that we need to have culture war driven narrative closure when there is a troubling, true, and apparent narrative that we willfully ignore. Also worth noting there are very possible iatrogenic factors at play.
>>42653490Lmao wtf? This has to be bait. There’s no way you are this stupid. You think babies aren’t born with discernible, differentiated genitalia? AHAHAHAHAHAHA what a fucking retard holy shit
>>42653600>fetuses>born withChuds can't fucking read? KEK
>>42653490>Imagine not knowing how your own body works. There are quite a lot of people on 4chan who has not done their own research properly.the irony of being completely wrong but smugly asserting you are right and everyone else is woefully ignorant is always so fucking funny to read
>>42652535Yeah you are wasting your time with someone clearly arguing in bad faith. Rightoids live in a make believe world that instantly collapses in front of any credible research. That's why they make you toil in arguments and frustrate you on every corner so they can extract the faintest resemblance of a victory
funny how cis straight men are like 98% of mass shooting perpetrators despite only being 50% of the population whereas trans are 0.11% of perpetrators despite making up a whopping 1% of the population
>>42651434>hanging around in imageboards getting groomed by an ideology that says everyone is out to get you and 'your people' woooow thats crazy dude thats wild thats nuts dude i wonder if there's any other examples of this that result in like a hundred times more shootings than trannies do.
>>42653657yeah. like the schizoposter above who constructed its tranny theory requiring the internet to be an omnipresent factor in trans people's lives is a good example of this. >1900s trans people? oh um um um they still had porn so like
>>42653553> iatrogenicIt is possible, all things are possible, the mass shooter is a problem. But one very notable observation your post doesnt explain is why the 90s goth shooter became the white nationalist shooter became the trans shooter, all in no particular overlap, but instead in these groupings of time periods? Why was there no incel white nationalists during the goth phase? Why no tranny shooters during the el paso chud phase? Why no goth shooters now? I cant be the only one seeing this clear distinct groups being activated at distinct times? This cant be coincidence. This also isnt explained by the homicidial ideation increase of anti-depressants, even if the prevalence of those is linked to overal trend of mass shootings. Also we are ignoring islamic attacks, but that one I think most people seperate as its more apparent of being an outside source causing it, even if the attackers are citizens.
>trans rights are non negotiab-ACCCK
>>42653750Different social factors: 90s were particularly nihilistic after Reaganism and financialization, and the foreclosure of social progres. Then of course there was the surge of Islamic terrorism due to real geopolitical issues in the Islamic world (and this is still ongoing). White nationalists have always been doing crazy shit (eg McVeigh) but increasing precarity, migration, and crises (2008, COVID) have delegitamized the liberal order enough to really inspire the kooks. And the trans shootings are being largely overstated - trans people are not committing shootings at a higher rate than their proportion of the population (yet). So you are right it's not coincidence, because there are causal factors agitating different groups of people until some of them snap.
This evil, transphobic nazi chud probably wanted the troonstapo to send all trannies to Trauschwitz
>>42653732>1900s trans people?Had their bussy turned inside out when they were 12. Many such cases.
>>42653897>TrauschwitzFucking lol
>>42651899>#2 and #4 apply to you personallyProjecting much?Everyone knows that it's rightoids who are in to weird shit like blacked and sissy porn and leddit.
>>42653956my ex was a rightoid who would literally go around calling leftoids cucks, while being heavily into cuck porn and wanting me to cuck him. while none of my leftoids boyfriends were ever into any of that shit.
>>42652174The tranny thing is a key pillar of the elites jewish satanic plan, retard.
>>42653857If true, about the overstating of the trans shootings then it could be argued the incel white nationalist shooters were also overstated, which following that thread of explanations, its the media cherry picking events to push narratives. Which makes all these mass shootings psyops. Except the las vegas shooting, as that white male apparently had no motive and theres nothing further to see about that event. Case closed.
