what are trannies thoughs on human domestication guide?
>>42655453The thought that the affini might be real is genuinely a motivating factor for me right now.
>>42655453Last time someone posted about that in here, the threads got moved to /trash/Maybe you have to go back
>>42655472can you ever imagine? maybe not the affini, but some similar alien being who estrogenize you until you are soft and small
>>42655453the compact is gigabased and being a plant mommys pet is the hottest thing ever
It’s peak shit, what else is there to say honestly ? I just wish the affini were real / more fan art and fan fics gets made.
>>42655453I think it says a lot about the state of things in our world when people would be willing to lose what autonomy they have if it meant complete safety
>>42655453>>42655493>>42655545Who is the artist?
>>42655561Looks like different artists
I want a hot plant twink to impregnate me
>>42655561this >>42655545 one is hdgprom on tumblr
A lot of it is SLOP, but there are some incredible works on there. I love a lot of the works posted on the wiki, since they're actually written with tension, and the one where the MC gets turned into a nulge moth is pretty cool too.This one https://archiveofourown.org/works/72290281/chapters/188217451 is the only HDG fic I can say is "exceptionally" written, pales in comparison to even the "pretty great" original fics. I hate generally how the HDG fandom treats creative license, like 0 flexibility with base axioms like 0 children, 0 genuine tension/possibility that the affini are bad, etc. I understand the idea of them in theory, but a lot of writers seem to misinterpret it and it makes for very boring, 100% identical wish fulfillment stories (compared to the original HDG fics which were morally grey horror smut, which was excellent conceptually).
>>42655453poorly written fics, not nearly as edgy as the tags make it out to be (what if your gf was also your mom and also your plug and society was le good), I don't want to fuck plants.really I prefer mechsploitation as far as "genres of fic written by and for transbians" go.
>>42655453i wish they were real so that they could fix my horrible horrible horrible body
>>42655795https://archiveofourown.org/works/47046481/chapters/118525363Is pretty much the ideal HDG story if I’m being honest; will check out your recc but mine very much starts off as a horror story which slows down into your typical HDG story but it’s good stuff
>>42655453I would like to be like a stray cat for a group of plommies. And also i wish the pet space drugs were real
if a giant alien came and depooned me into her little pet dog i would shoot myself in the face. awful body horror shit, i don't know why you all find it so romantic and desirable.
>>42656110i want to be high all the time, personally
>>42655795can you send the moth fan fiction please?
>>42655488why? making a thread about HDG is like making a thread about puppygirls and click trainer. all pet related
>>42656014Might check it out, but I even find most starts off as horror -> slows down to normal HDG stories to get pretty samey. I genuinely think the one I linked is the ideal HDG story because it starts off as a relatively plain story, *and then* gets more horrific as the HDG elements get introduced, which I think is the way a HDG story should be.>>42656116 I couldn't remember the name of it, but it's how a floret finds out and how a floret fucks around. It might not hold up, everyone remembers the first 10 anime they watched more fondly than the next 40, but I think it has some pretty cool concepts throughout the story. Plus the tone seems very British (instead of American, like how most HDG fics feel). Not linking it because I cant be bothered but you can Yandex it
if they're real i hope they're coming soon because i don't think i have much time left
>>42656110thats what you say now, wait until you become a cute mindless dumb girl
>>42655832you're cute
>>42656167no im not. im a real world abomination. im a blight on the earth. i am the most horrible looking person in the history of the world
>>42656143Wanted to expand on the point -- minor spoilers, but for example of my point of the story getting more horrific with the introduction of HDG elements, this story involves giving someone a fetish for pain because they have to do surgery on someone but don't have anesthetics developed yet, so they just give them a pain fetish mid surgery and do the surgery without anesthetics. I can imagine a lot of other HDG fics would do that kind of half-heartedly, but in this one it's genuinely pretty fucked up to read since they don't go light with the depictions of pain. It's genuinely amazing and felt disgusting to read, in the best way possible.
>>42656116 Affini vets do actually show up in the story, not as funny as these images but still funny to imagine
>>42656156i would rather die a thousand times than live an existence as as a hollow shell of my former self, with no more memories or desires except to be correctively raped by a qu. even after a lobotomy i would have to watch as something else pilots my irreversibly feminizeed body for the rest of my artificially prolonged life.
>>42656110Pooned ? Oh honey that means it isn’t for you if you’re FTM, just go over to the force masculinization werewolf stories down the hall. Have a nice day !
>>42656110Nerve stapling 1/3rd of the population is cool as long as you make it fun and sexy
>>42655633where i can find this picture specifically
>>42656204you would still have your soul, a soul bounded by love
>>42656236i want to feminize pooners
>>42656116https://archive.transformativeworks.org/works/60651835enjoy!
>>42656322that looks more like a na'vi than a tree
>>42656284the original is on tumblr I'm sure
>>42656297truly, what do you get out of this? does the idea of a stronger woman forcing you to troon out help take away your repper guilt?
>>42656349thank you!
>>42656350i like na'vi as well, i am such a xenofucker
>>42656362i think there's something to be said about the immense effort of transition, the world generally looking at you like you're a freak (with all the economic, social, and political implications that comes with,) the progression of fetishes coming from cultural signifiers, and something about freud. not by me though, bcs i'm a doped up floret puppy kitty pet girlllll :3
>>42656362is not about guilt, is about transbian comfort. you know why monotheistic religions such as christianity or islam are so big? becuase a great part of the faith is letting yourself let go on the hands of a bigger, ever-loving and caring being, very much on a motherly spock
>>42656351i cant find it
>>42656479hmm, idk thenI'm sure someone in the trash thread has it though
>>42656479
>>42656362Force feminization that absolutely breaks the resolve of repressing/the fantasy of being a passoid do to super alien drugs.Also did I mention free food, housing and sex.
>>42656110Affini would turn pooners into real bous, as manly or androgynous as you want.Actually makes me wonder what humans would look like if class-Gs became the norm and opinions were destigmatized. When being a femboy is as easy as taking a pill for a couple weeks would we still have people roiding and weightlifting? Would the world be made up of 7 foot tall gigachads and femboys for men? Would more women want to be borderline bimbos with DD tits (it's okay your back muscles are now so strong they cause no issues) or have big booties? I can't imagine many people would actively want to look short and fat for example if they could easily change it without side effects.
>>42656596also appeals to the typical tranny fetishes
>>42656204>even after a lobotomy i would have to watch as something else pilots my irreversibly feminizeed bodycan people who claim being florted is so terrible stop headcanoning how it works to try to twist it into a bad thing? no, you are still yourself, yourself just changes into a happy pet self, they don't send you to the fucking sunken place.
>>42655559this made me really sad damn
>>42656236>force masculinization werewolf storiesnta but is this actually a thing.... that's kinda...
>>42656885artist?
>>42656911The whole is made up of the sum of its parts. Would you agree to be lobotomized for a million dollars? What about drugs to change your personality and core beliefs? After all it's still you after you're lobotomized or drugged into acting and thinking like a different person, you just change under the force of another.
>>42657190>Would you agree to be lobotomized for a million dollars?i might agree to be lobotomized for free to tell you the truth.>What about drugs to change your personality and core beliefs?i guess it'd depend on whether they'd change them for the better or worse.
>>42657190what's the difference between that happening with and without drugs
>>42657333The fact that it's an induced change that you have no control over instead of a natural development of your own thoughts and beliefs. Individuals are the sum of the parts of their self, if you change a lot of the parts than eventually it loses itself.
>>42655453beautiful, sometimes i wish i could do it in real life. have a cute chaser drip feed me dxm and edibles to keep me stupid and touchable or something
>>42655453beautiful universe with really cool and fun universe. with hot art.sad that retarded mods move whatever thread we make here to /trash/
>>42657523>>42657555i love you both
>>42656911>no you're not gonna get lobotomized (bad), you're gonna get lobotomized (good)
>>42657954
>>42657971yeah pretty much. it is canonically entirely pleasant to be lobotomized, not like whatever that anon was talking about.
>>42657954i love you too yayy
>>42658106That's why they often resist until the momemt they're lobotomized, because they're so excited.
>>42658748well no most people don't like the idea of it, but it is still a great time, whether you think it's a good or a bad thing beyond that depends on your definition of good and bad i guess.
>>42657998thank you, i was looking for the full picture
>>42655453i know you people wont be interested but my animal crossing HDG house is almost finished. i apology for the bad quality
>>42656911this, thank you
>>42655453HDG stories (the well written ones) are like heroin to me. I've spent almost every day for months upon months getting as high as i can and fantasizing about being loved & owned & being a soft, safe little puppy that nobody can hurt. im a neet who hasnt been outside in years, has nobody & no reason to live, and lives in filth, so it is the perfect escape from my never ending nightmare. if my screws get a little looser i might kill myself while thinking of this fantasy so that my last thoughts are at least happy ones. i wish the affini were real because then maybe i would be happy and alive instead of being me
>>42659106i love you regardless of your misery
does anyone have any recommendations for volunteer stories? all the most popular stories i find the protag is like forced into it. but if the affini were real and they came to earth i would walk into their little clinic bawling my eyes out on day one. i fantasize about this scenario all the time when i'm upset. i wanna read more stories about people like me in that way. also too many stories about reppers being forced fem. im not a repper. id rather read stories about forced-helping-a-very-unhappy-trans-girl-overcome-her-dysphoria. and the reppers are always so masucline pretrans! theyre like soldier guys! i have never been a soldier guy. if they were more fem and pathetic at the start like i was pretransition i could self insert as my past self at least. >inb4 write your ownyea yea i know but i dont wanna right now. it probably wouldn't be any good anyway i dont know i dont know im sorry. i just want to read one.
>>42655453Honestly i love the art that's been coming out of it, but the fantasy around it makes me deeply uncomfortable. To be forced into something isn't my thing.
>>42659153i wrote about this... rentry.org/domestication-center
>>42659153god same, I get it removed some tension but still...>>42659242that was really sweet>>42658990cute decor
>>42655453I don't want to be drugged up and loopy but there are days when I really want someone to just pamper me a lot and on those days I appreciate softer takes on this setting a lot.
SanFran friend if you see this hello I know you're probably in here
>>42659146i wish, i truly do
>>42659242this was nice but it was so short. was it ever continued?
>>42659504Probably not who youre thinking of but I live in sf lol
i sort of understand the appeal but the one big thing about the setting that im not so fond of is the total reliance on drugs. i don't know if im just being weird and stuck up about it but i have this strange sense of protectiveness and almost pride over my own feelings. like the idea that i would be naturally so well-suited to domestication that i wouldn't even need to be chemically altered for some reason is really exciting to me. or that the love i'd feel for my owner is totally natural and not just the result of some chemical or hypnosis or something like that. being forced to do things or into things is really hot but the whole thing that's so exciting about it is how deep down i really, really like them, and the mix of like shame/pleasure/fear/embarrassment that comes along with being forced into a humiliating situation and not being able to help just how ecstatic i am about it deep down. but if those feelings are just the result of some chemical or psychological tampering, it kind of takes out a lot of the appeal. some of the more creative drugs (like the ones that make you lose control of your body physically and turn you into a doll) i really rlly like though >///<Sometimes i hope that at the end of a story it'll be revealed by the affini that all the "xenodrugs" (god every time i read that word i just think it sounds so dumb lol sorry) given to the protag throughout were all placebos (except for the class G's of course) and all the changes in her personality were done all on her own and were naturally who she really is this whole time. I've never seen a story where that happens though. I like the idea of being assessed by an affini and them being shocked by how naturally well-tuned i am to the process without the need of any chemical intervention and me being really embarrassed about it
>>42655453it got really boring really quick but it was good for the first few days, the best one i read was about a tranny having weird sex with the various aliens in the setting that aren't affini
>>42659106I'm rooting for you nona
the "no children or parenthood ever" rule accidentally implies all affini are pedophiles, which is funny. if, as per the wikis, all affini/terran interaction is inherently kinky, and compact society is inherently 100% kink-based on all levels, but the constraints of the universe do mean affini are interacting with kids, then every affini is doing kink in front of kids (or to kids) right offscreen.which is consistent, because of course the nonconsent aliens wouldn't care about the age of consent. and they wouldn't have any reason to according to their own ethics. it would be strange if they put their injectors away and turned their biorhythm off the second they realized the cute stray they want to lobotomize into their fetish dog is 17 and not 18.not kinkshaming, just kinklaughing.
>>42661567i think this uncomfortable logical conclusion is exactly why any mention of children is "banned" in the setting. it's not really possible to rectify so the answer is "don't think about it. it's just a story. that's not a part of what the story is about."
>>42661585which is reasonable if you just want to jack it to a fantasy (even if i couldn't look past such a big elephant in the room) but then theres people who unironically argue that the compact is a utopia and the affini are good guys and its like. lol. lmao. ok.
>>42661770maybe they would just send them all to an affini boarding school / orphanage where they will be safe and protected until they turn 18 and are let into society
>>42661804>affini boarding schoolwould they have the practice of fagging?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fagging
>>42661567>implies all affini are pedophilesas i understand, the affini aren't even really attracted to humans, or capable of sexual attraction in general. fucking their pets is more like how humans pet animals.so i doubt they'd be fucking the prepubescent children at least, just the teenagers
>>42661804moderately better than constantly doing public noncon/dubcon in front of children, but still grooming if they're raised to see being cute and touchable pets as normal (or even actively desirable.) there just isn't a logical way that fits the setting to avoid deep-frying minors in kink, i think?>>42662252this gets into the weeds (ha..ha..) of if we're defining pedophile using the clinical definition of "person attracted to prepubescent children" or the layman definition of "adult who does sexual things with a minor" i was using it in the layman's way. but that affini see sex with humans like letting a cat chase the red dot of a laser pointer makes me think they wouldn't see any reason not to do it with a child or teenager. since to them, sex isn't something serious enough to require emotional maturity or consent. especially since they can pump a sophont who's not enjoying it full of class A until they do. in the end, an affini's going to do whatever it wants, and they're pretty well established to find child-like traits cute and desirable. i could see some wanting extra smol florets, and thinking that as long as they're happy, it's for the florets' own good. and they /will/ be happy, because that's how floretization works.
>>42662625but not everyone is a floret! just the people who are suited to be. there are still independent humans.>>42662252thats not true if that were true that would ruin it completely
>>42662648everyone is still seen as part of a domesticated species even if they aren't someone's personal pet, though. a street cat is still not a person. the only way for "our kind is Not Full People and its normal and good for affini to do whatever they want to us, up to and including just plucking us off the street and taking us home" to really culturally stick is generations of normalization and indoctrination. i think raising kids as per "normal" and then dropping all this on them the day they turn 18 would lead to feralism.though, i do wonder what being "suited" to be a pet means to an affini, since they can just change someone's brain chemistry to be whatever they want. even the most happily independent and self-reliant terran, who genuinely gets enrichment and a soul-deep sense of actualization from maintaining control of their own life, can still be rewired and cooked with enough drugs and mind control. at that point, the affini could easily argue that the terran as they are now is best suited to be their pet, even if it didn't seem true before.
>>42655453it's literal the autistic trancel equivalent of mommy fantasies that incels often have, except with a malebrained sci-fi aspect to it. >>42655472they probably are, there are an estimated 10^25 planets which orbit solar systems in the observable universe and 100 billion in the milky way alone, assuming that just 0.001% are suitable for organic life, that still makes 1 million planets that intelligent* life will develop on given enough time.Now consider that the earth is 4.5 billion years old, but the oldest planets in the milky way are 13 billion years old, assuming that intelligent life on those planets develop at the same speed as on earth, that means that there's potentially an precursor alien race that has a 8.5 billion years head start on us. Imagine where humanity would be in 8.5 billion years? Remember that technological and economic growth is exponential. Ofcourse one would expect an alien Civilization that had a 8.5 billion years head start to have colonised the entire milky way at this point assuming that FTL travel was possible, so either it's not we're all just stuck making painfully slow progress to nearby solar systems from already established colonies branching out from our galactic core, OR it is and the dark forest theory/galactic zoo theory is true and aliens already know about earth and have decided to leave us be for now. It's probably the latter because the worst case scenario, that inter-stellar travel is capped at 5% the speed of light and the advanced aliens are on the other end of the milky way, it'd still only take them 1.5 mil years to reach us, which they should have had time to do billions of years ago desuif it's dark forest then I imagine we'd already be dead, so its probably galactic zoo. * assuming that intelligence is the ultimate evolutionary advantage, on our planet it clearly is and it's difficult to imagine a scenario where it isn't given how easily intelligence let humans conquer the entire planet.
>>42663352i want them to be here. i want them to be here right now. i can't stand it without them
>>42663361given that all trannies hate AI, my words probably won't please you, but I think there's a much higher chance that rogue servitors/the culture/wall-e style robots will be invented in your life time, and will be functionally the same as alien plantoid mommies i've unironically stopped recommending people kill themselves over this slim possibility.
>>42655453It’s okay, unfortunately I am just not that interested in pet play despite liking a lot of the adjacent fetishes. I need to have implications of actual romantic feelings developing and that’s not gonna ever be reciprocated with something that sees you as a literal pet, so it’s just so boring. Any type of sex slavery stories are much hotter to me
>>42663406this would be nice, but i can't imagine why the goal of these robots would be making working-class humanity *feel good*. the people who own and develop these technologies unfortunately thrive off human suffering and seek it as their primary end.
>>42664758Whilst I don't mean to glaze for these people, I'd like to point out that Sam Altman at least has engaged in a lot of philanthropy, Dario Amodei of Anthropic has pledged to give away huge amounts of his wealth to philanthropy too. Idk, maybe I'm being naive, but I don't think these people are deranged, I think a lot of their actions actually make perfect sense when I imagine myself being in their positions and having to compete for market dominance and the approval of the board. People like Elon Musk and Peter Thiel are a different story, they are undeniably evil beyond doubt.
>>42655795To be honest i dont really find the horror stuff entertaining and i really only read hdg thats quick wish fufillment.To me this is porn, and as an actual setting it kind of falls apart and its boring
>>42664924mandatory domestication for elon musk and peter thiel
>>42664924i don't know much about altman or amodei specifically, i'm just inclined to view this technology cynically, and the people involved with it by proxy. kind of in the kaczynski way where technology becomes "infected" with our capitalist system and becomes optimized towards consolidating wealth in the owning class. people and institutions can be infected with this kind of thing too
>>42663352>it's literal the autistic trancel equivalent of mommy fantasies that incels often have, except with a malebrained sci-fi aspect to it.Is incels having mommy kinks a like common thing or is this poster just weird. I thought most incels were into weird breeding shit
>>42655453this whole thing smacks of whiteness
>>42661322I'm halfway in the same boat. I like SOME of the drugs, like the super-HRT, and the drug that makes touching and cuddling feel really good, and the one that forces you to be honest about your thoughts and feelings. I feel like I need those. But what I DON'T like is being 'high' and loopy, or having my thoughts and intelligence suppressed. So all the stuff that basically works like weed or opiates, makes you retarded, or turns you into a puppet, that stuff wigs me out. I don't WANT to be stupid or high, I want to be a cuddly girl who stops repressing her feelings.
>>42665368is that supposed to be a bad thing?
>>42655453too femdom-focused and twee for my tasteone problem with fetishist communities is that they commit to inclusivity to such an extent that all the sharp edges get dulled, which robs the fetish of its libidinal quality
>>42665819there's some male affini stories, but unfortunately not a lot
>>42657407being forceably kidnapped and injected with drugs by an alien interlocutor is as natural as anything else that can happen to you. not that appeals to nature hold any value
>>42655795This is a good fic desu
>>42659153>noooo! i wan't marshmallow soft cozy and safe rewriting of my core being by aliens who treat me like an object!!Man, fuck off, people like you are the same types that ruined feminization porn by injecting a bunch of shitty wish fulfillment garbage into it. Let be beat off to coercive porn in peace.
>>42655795I have to agree with >>42665031 that I don't give a SHIT about your conceptions of artistic merit and quality. This is a fetish setting, I don't find 'morally grey horror smut' arousing, so I can leave it. I innately feel that if that's how you like it then that's fine, but it doesn't make you better than people that just want straightforward wish fulfillment. As fetishes, they're equal and merely a matter of taste. If, on the other hand, you're looking at autistic transbian druggy petplay xenophile smut for 'high quality writing and setting building' and using that as justification to look down on people who just want to be pampered and loved up you are 100% missing the plot.
>>42667855Who goes on the tranny board and treats it like it's unusual or weird for people to treat feminization porn as wish fulfillment? Like in principle MEF fuckers who like it as a humiliation/BDSM/orientation play etc. kink are fine, but they really shouldn't be talking to actual trannies and going "how dare you want to be a girl and be happy, you ruined my be the girl porn!"
>>42665368a black author did a hdg deconstruction fic (drapetomania by vetye) and oh boy did the white hdg fans get mad. lot of "but the affini don't see color!" and "but its not slavery if the person who owns you as property loves you!" style argumentation.
>>42669494I think the better argument is that nobody wants to hear about your 'realistic' take on sex slavery in their fetish porn or for you to associate it with historical events like it's not just fetish porn. Like lighten up, do you 'deconstruct' everything that gets you off or only when it offends you?
>>42659242this is unbelievably good, exactly the kind of thing i was hoping it might be. really delightful writing.
>>42669513That's fair but then again, as someone just skimming through this thread, this whole HDG thing seems like it's popular with the type of women to seethe and mald about men watching regular old "misogynistic" porn.
>>42669558I don't think I've ever seen that happen in over a year of hdg threads
liking this stuff makes me feel like a bad person. i think i just hate myself so much, and feel so broken and unlovable, it's like running away. i just want some all powerful all knowing person to appear out of thin air and fix everything wrong with me and my life. every decision i've ever made has been wrong so i need someone to make them for me. im miserable and scared and alone and am so unsalvageable it makes fantasizing about someone else coming and fixing everything for me my only tiny mental reprieve. whenever i think about this stuff it always has this underlying guilt and sadness. it makes me feel like less of a person it makes me feel so incapable and pathetic and immature. like it's all my fault. it is.
>>42655453i feel like if they had this shit when i was like 15 or 16 and i came across it my life would be somehow even more permanently and uniquely ruined than it is now>>42669609100%
>>42669494 Can you link the fic ? I say as a black HDG fan
>>42669494>check this ultra controversial story>higher kudos than 99% of hdg postsYou just hate light skinned people. No, I think I won't be reading that.
>>42669609>every decision i've ever made has been wrongI know that feel
>>42669680here you go, anon.https://archiveofourown.org/works/54279304/chapters/137463274
>>42669734>And Margaret finally saw the shape of things. The universe was a corpse. It had died long ago. There was no room for change in such a universe, no room for her hopes, no room for utopia. The massive upheaval that was the arrival of the Affini had led only to a continuation of the Maafa by a slightly more exotic flavor of white people. It was unbearable. She wept at the betrayal.affini are honorary whites confirmed
>>42669722the only good thing i ever did was deciding to transition. but i couldn't even do that right. i waited too long to start, i didn't eat enough i starved myself and stunted my development, i don't know how to dress myself or groom myself or take care of myself in any way that would make me look presentable. i don't put enough effort in. i'm bad and it and i'm ugly. and i suck.
>>42669734I like the basic premise of it and frankly would love to see more explorations of race (even if it is uncomfortable), but I wish the author was capable of creating some tension or discomfort without just blatantly ignoring HDG canon. It doesn't say much to write a fic where white people are still racist even under affini control and there's still lots of misery and people just... don't use parks, and stuff (that really seemed like a weird detail). Like yeah if you imagine HDG but the plants are not benevolent it really sucks, what a shock. The only reason HDG is interesting is because the benevolence is supposed to be intrinsically unquestionable, despite the horror/slavery/end-of-humanity stuff, otherwise it's just a nightmare. It's interesting to consider why a primarily white trans girl audience would enjoy the thought of that happening to them, when a black person might not, but this fic can't really explore that substantively because it invents this straw man version of the canon.
>>42669494>>42669680>>42669734>>42669751>>42670195as a white person, i am always happy to see any history that contains black people submission. is such a turn on for me>margaret froze. The Affini, she couldn’t remember his name, had briefly worked in the university’s health services department. He had resigned several months ago, and now Margaret knew why. It was hard to recognize Clary Jardine now. Her hair had been badly straightened, the limp strands falling lifelessly about her face. Something had been done to her eyes which were now a terrible piercing blue. And she had a tail, long and covered in fur like a cat’s but more flexible, almost prehensile. A monkey’s tailLMAOOO MONKEY TAIL THIS IS PEAK
>>42670944>straightened hair, blue eyes, monkey tailhe just wants to be a saiyan
>>42670953>>42670944Gotta say the idea that the Affini would force you to have straightened hair, blue eyes, and a monkey tail just out of the blue when those aren't things you specifically want is 100% born out of a persecution complex. Not once outside of this story have I seen them handing out fucking monkey tails instead of dog or cat.
>>42671016yeah it's just kind of silly to make the affini racist when they've literally always been anti-racist as some sort of critique of a perceived whiteness of hdglike the affini are already imperialistic slavers, and the total benevolence is what makes the affini interesting and makes the reader feel conflicted. Making the affini also racist is a hamfisted way to make the affini unambiguously bad because of a personal grudge or whateverit would be like making the qu racist so they turn black people into monkeys
>>42671544is not racism, black people kinda look like... thats why there is no black trannies, all of them are in the ballrooms, usually /LGBT/ trannies are white people or mixed beans that try to go for the coquette petite tranny instead of the black bimbo goddess tranny, there is no "black cute tranny"
>>42671544>>42671575only white or asian trannies can get to look like a cat or like a dog but when you compare a black person to an animal, well, i think it is obvious which animal they seem more alike
>>42671575>>42671612Posting racism under the plant mommy imperialist thread is kind of a weirdo move ngl. Please change and grow as a person lol
>>42655453>how do trannies feel about this writing group comprised entirely of trannies made by trannies for trannies?gee i wonder
>>42672256get the fuck out of 4chan you stupid reddit tranny caveman nigger-lover. you probably stench like one too, stupid monkey fucker. this place is doomed
>>42672436i am a cis guy tho:3
>>42671544I mean, I can just read that blurb and see that there's some crippling insecurity behind it.>Limp strands falling lifelesslyPerception of straight hair as inferior/ugly/lifeless. Which is a valid taste, but in context it feels like railing against people who have this naturally.>Terrible piercing bluePerception of blue eyes as scary and terrifying. Like again this is a taste thing, but the only way you pick it up in a way that they're frightening and not just 'ugly' to your view is if you've got a bias. Not with the Affini but with the people writing them, most likely.>A monkey's tailAnd this is just a naked persecution complex, that's like saying the Affini forcefeed you chicken and watermelon or some other completely insane thing.Like nobody is going to judge you negatively for saying the sexual slavery/petplay innate to the setting makes you uncomfortable because as a black person, or if you want to write a fic where your self-insert deals with that face-to-face. But c'mon, screaming about how the Affini want to make you white because they're racist but also associate you with negative racist stereotypes at the same time (which makes no sense) just based on NOTHING from the setting's material isn't honestly engaging with that conceit whatsoever. It reads more like you're venting against the presumably white people WRITING the Affini instead just because they're white and want to be sex slaves and that makes you angry.
>>42674489i didn't bother responding to it because im not as intelligent and eloquent as you but i agree with your take pretty much completely. i think this is very true
>>42658106Being lobotomised is bad regardless of whether it’s pleasurable for post-lobotomy you
>>42670195That’s why the pet thing doesn’t really work though, if they’re truly benevolent they can’t also think that every other species is basically Not Quite A Person
>>42675309Or rather it’s the other way around (they can’t be benevolent if that’s their mindset lol)
>>42675309I think HDG as a fiction vehicle is about replacing a society that doesn't care about you with one that does, and that seems so impossible to contemplate that it requires alien intervention to allow. The fixation on lore minutiae like ratios of domestication, etc misses the forest for the trees.If you (the general you) don't have some deep fascination or yearning in trading your freedoms/rights for security under some set of exchange rates, it's not really gonna hit. In other words, I agree with you that Affini are obviously not really truly "benevolent". There are absolutely those for whom the HDG world would, even as described by its most ardent proponents, be a miserable world lacking self determination and freedom. My problem with Drapetomania is that it doesn't take this version of things and show why that would be, it instead just imagines that HDG is "actually" racist in the exact same way white people are racist right now (down to fixation on straight hair, blue eyes, antebellum-era slave language, etc) and then acts as if this is some amazing mic drop moment. It's unimaginative and fails as a critique.Now, if we're talking about whether HDG fixation is "good" in the abstract... I don't know. I do spend too much time yearning for plant mom.
>>42675474Yeah, that’s fair. I generally personally do not crave security so much that I would take it over freedom, so for me this is pretty horrifying for the most part. I do sometimes enjoy this sort of stuff but the mind control etc is just icky. Anyway yeah understandable. That does sound like a bit of a shallow critique
