Transgender women, for the most part, want to be seen as women. But the veil of anonymity that covers this place allows many people to reveal their true motive for transitioning.AGP (autogynephilia) is common; MEF less so (masochistic emasculation fetish). People going on HRT because they're "sissies". Incels who have no dysphoria and transition for the social benefits. You want society to see you as normal, but behind the mask of normalcy lies some of the freakiest shit imaginable.
>>42658681>You want society to see you as normalI actually don't care.I am seen as a woman because I look, talk and move like one. It's not society's business why I wanted that, desu.Cis women who are gigawhores and spread STDs don't get even 1/3 of the hate (you) direct at me even though they actively harm people.2/3+ of cis women ADMIT to having rape fantasies and cnc is the most popular fetish if you ask anonymously. Nobody cares. Choking is the 2nd most common fetish (and a dangerous one too if practiced unsafely) and also nobody cares. But oh no, it's suddenly an issue because some of us get into this for fetish reasons. Get real.I'm normal in my professional life and my social life. Heck, sometimes I have to remind some of my cis female friends that we're in public and they shouldn't be talking about some of the fucked up shit they're into.t. MEF srsoid
>>42658681did u actually believe the larp ppl have here?lmao, retard.also, what kind of social benefit a trans woman would have? ppl being nice to us?
>>42658681You know having diabetes or cancer doesnt really matter how you got either in context of treatments. From a science perspective its interesting and probably useful to prevent more trans, but for those that have accepted it, AGP MEF HSTS doesnt even matter....To be honest, im starting to realize AGP is the only tru trans. HSTS are gay men, that want to trick straight men into using their anuses as sex organs. AGP actually want to be women, for themselves. Which is literally want an identity is, how you see and believe yourself is,
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>>42658731I'm curious what your take is on the way motivations and fetishes change after you have complete transition. Coming from a male perspective it all seems really perverse. But I imagine once you are there it all seems fairly normal. Ex: Wanting to be a woman as a guy is really weird. But wanting to be a woman as a woman is just... normal
>>42658851>Coming from a male perspective it all seems really perverse. But I imagine once you are there it all seems fairly normal.Both actually.I do not deny that it's "perverse" and make no secret among friends (or on anon boards) that I am fundamentally a perv.Now on the other side, I'm still a perv. I'm still MEF. Except being a perv woman is a lot less harshly judged. And being a perv woman also clicks better on me. Idk how to explain it without being explicitly perv in my language.Talking to other women when men are not around is a whole new perspective. You have no idea how perverted the vast majority of cis women are. They just don't talk about it with men. It's also why I don't talk about it with men (except anon boards).>Wanting to be a woman as a guy is really weird. But wanting to be a woman as a woman is just... normalYes. Most women are AGP and a significant portion of men are AAP.And then a minority of males are also AGP (some extreme and terminal like me) and a minority of females are AAP. None of this is new.And, as >>42658787 said, it doesn't even matter that much.I really really wanted to be a woman. Went to extreme lengths (and spent a lot of money) to get as close to that as technology allows. Now that I got it, I'm happier and life goes on. Transition didn't solve all of my problems, ofc, but did solve a big one. Now I focus on other stuff.I lurk here occasionally because some young nonas might benefit from a good word that I may be able to give. But this place has also gotten worse. Meh.
>>42658934>I'm still MEF.How can you still be MEF if you are fully emasculated?
>>42658987Having the boy fucked out of me is my biggest turn on. Forcefem and cnc are still the best way to turn me on.My brain didn't change that much, anon. Transition doesn't cure AGP, it just makes it (far) easier to live with it.
>>42659007>Having the boy fucked out of me is my biggest turn on.How did you figure that out?I know trooning is right for me because it feels like it is putting my body the way it should have been. But I feel ace or agp most of the time. I think if I let a man fuck me it would be more for the thrill of it than satisfying a need.
>>42659224>I think if I let a man fuck me it would be more for the thrill of it than satisfying a need.Then you're not that mef. And that's okay.>How did you figure that out?Very much literally. I am mildly aroused just by typing this. If I get into that thought my srussy would lubricate a bit.The fastest way for my guy to make me orgasm from penetration is to call me a faggot boy (sounds "worse" in my native tongue) while he bones me doggy style while I rub my clit. Not romantic at all, but raw and animalic.What changed with time (srs included) is that I can now easily get aroused romantically too. And orgasm in a "fembrained" (for lack of a better term) state of mind. Very hard before srs, unthinkable before hrt. This would be the biggest improvement.Since Valentine's Day is upon us, it's what we'll exercise this week-end.>aceWell, you see, I wanted to be a sexual being. So I slowed down early trooning to figure out a way to maintain libido. Didn't take much figuring out but, still, it was a consideration.Ace would've been a failure of the whole effort in my book.You do you, though. Every body and every mind is different.
>>42659311I'm surprised trans pussy turned out to be so effective/worthwhile. I've heard mostly horror stories.
>>42659360Happy post ops don't post that often. Miserable ones post non stop. It really is that simple.Also, most can't afford the top-tier options. And the tech has improved significantly over the last decade since /pol/ dropped the horror stories (which were partially true in 2014-15).
>>42659360same desu, i just cant with the dilation forever thing
>>42659422having a wound between your legs constantly trying to close is definitely not a comfy thought
>>42659422>dilation foreverIt's not forever tho. It was once a week for like 10 months. And I didn't even observe that one that strictly.Also, I use it often with a man.Yes, the first 10-12 months are really harsh. But after that it's fine (unless you're gigaunlucky or your surgeon was lower-tier and you get complications).I hated the first 3 months with a passion. But then it got better gradually. Now I'm super glad that I had it done and would do it allover again if need be.
>>42659441outdated /pol/ disinformation.Might want to read up how srs functions now and come up with new types of scaremongering.
>>42659311>The fastest way for my guy to make me orgasm from penetration is to call me a faggot boyHow do you find a guy that is into this? I'd imagine from what I see here that most guys are chasers looking for you to have a gock. And if you go the srussy route aren't they looking for you to be fairly stealth? I imagine any normal straight guy would lose the vibe if you told them to call you a boy
>>42659403What is your definition of top tier?How long ago did you get yours?
>>42659443is it not? what if i dont have sex for like a year? what then
>>42659443r u smol girl
>>42659461>How do you find a guy that is into this?Bisexual guys. There's a lot more of them than people think.>herewell, obviously not here.Contrary to the opinion of the terminally online shutins on discord and here, most people actually still do meet their significant other IRL. So did I.>And if you go the srussy route aren't they looking for you to be fairly stealth?I am stealth in all respects. I pass as a woman on a nudist beach just as I get out from the water. You can't get more stealth than that.Low social media presence, no mention of tranny stuff.>I imagine any normal straight guy would lose the vibe if you told them to call you a boyMy guy is bi. And he is into forcefem.We both get what we want. He gets his kink fulfilled, I get mine, we get along amazingly, his family is happy because they were afraid he might turn gay (hehe) and... life just goes on.There's more to life than just sex, yk.
>>42659474>what if i dont have sex for like a year? what thenIf you're out of the recovery period, nothing really happens. It's not "a wound trying to close" - that's outdated bullshit.Also, not having sex for a year is one thing. But not masturbate at all for a year? Like... why not?>>42659481173cm. Not quite smol.
>>42659513i dunno, might not feel like it, if i didnt it would really be fine and nothing would happen?
>>42659496If you are stealth in all respects how would you just happen to mingle with a bisexual guy that also happens to be into forcefem? That sounds like such a unique niche you would have to purposefully go looking for that.
>>42659541foreal, masochistic emasculation fetish cannot be that common
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>>42658681I am a sissy and I'm not a freak. You're the one that's mad at people that haven't hurt anyone lol.
>>42658681consider the relevant demographics as welltrans women on tumblr are very different from trans women on 4chan (though there is also the significant strain of 4chan->tumblr trans women who are worth mentioning here)4chan users veer further right wing than tumblr users and right wing ideologies are often very shame motivated (see the prevalence of interracial cuck porn in white supremacist circles) and it begins to paint a picture of why trans women on 4chan might be more inclined toward AGP than tumblr trans women who mostly just want to find another trans woman and 69 her for six or seven hours a day
>>42659543Right? It seems like something you would have to go on fetlife for. You aren't just going to go to a bar and have some guy magically clock you as a tranny, and also be into your look/personality, and also be into MEF.
>>42658681Ah yes, the social benefits of losing all of your family and friends and namecalled and treated like a fetish freak in public. Take your half cooked crackpipe, theory and shove it up your ass
>>42659637Also all the friends you make after have brain damage of some sort unless you can genuinely stealth
>>42658731>>42658934based wiseposter
>>42659625>You aren't just going to go to a bar and have some guy magically clock you as a trannysadly this happens a lot more than it should
>>42658681>you bla bla blahonestly, that's the core of ur mistake right there, thinking that there is a unified group, which there really isn't, and then thinking it's basically the same as it always has been, which it really isn't tbqhlike it might seem that's the case for a lot of ppl here today, but years ago if u were to point out there was a small but slowly growing cohort that was like that, ppl would just refer to them being like 1 or 2 ppl out of hundreds in a threadthat's not to say that motives have even changed, but if there is a relatively stable portion of the population that made up trans years ago, then they're still present in young ppl today, but now they're a minority within a broader group that is made up of all that other stuff so ur confusing the message w/ what it was and who was saying it and who is doing the talking these days
>>42658731>I look, talk and move like one.No you don't.
>>42659456Outdated how?
>>42659880That part sure. But the rest of what I said is crazy unlikely.
We are socialized as men and therefore need to justify why we want to be women when it's mostly subconscious
