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Boooooringgggg edition
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>>42665921
saaaaggeee edition
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Y'all lazy ass niggas can't take 5 seconds to add resources to the OP

▶/ftmg/ OP:
https://rentry.org/ftmg
▶ /ftmg/ tapmap:
https://tagmap.io/tag/ftmg
▶Info:
Am I Trans? https://rentry.org/ftmg1
How we knew (Stories): https://rentry.org/ftmg2
What is Gender Dysphoria? https://www.psychiatry.org/dsm5mtf
▶Hormones:
Basic HRT: https://apps.carleton.edu/campus/gsc/assets/hormones_FTM.pdf
Hormones and the Body: A Brief Overview: https://www.ftmguide.org/hormonebasics.html
▶Passing:
How to Deepen Your Voice: [YouTube] how to deepen your voice - ftm (embed)
Binding: https://www.ftmguide.org/binding.html
Creating a Realistic Bulge: https://www.ftmguide.org/packing.html
▶Workout Plan:
Workout Plan Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W1iX0C1bUncjduC9uQB3KbjBdZNCJm9Wl9327wOk3kg/edit#gid=0
How to Start Working Out - FTM Fitness: [YouTube] How To Start Working Out - FtM Fitness (embed)
FTM Fitness Day 1 (Chest, Shoulders, & Triceps): [YouTube] FtM Workout Plan | DAY 1 - CHEST, SHOULDERS, & TRICEPS (Push Day) (embed)
FTM Fitness Day 2 (Back, Traps, & Biceps): [YouTube] FtM Workout Plan | DAY 2 - BACK, TRAPS, & BICEPS (Pull Day) (embed)
FTM Fitness Day 3 (LEGGGGG DAY): [YouTube] FtM Workout Plan | Day 3 - LEG DAY (embed)
▶Surgery Information:
The Ultimate FTM Top Surgery FAQ: https://www.topsurgery.net/faq/
▶Timelines:
https://imgur.com/a/0vJFTNd
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>never passer to the point of considering detrans
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>>42667231
you pass as a mentally ill youtuber
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>>42667231
youd be a hideous girl, you have a ogre face
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>>42667272
Very accurate
Ngl I told some women I was considering detrans and they said id be a beautiful woman, xd I had a feeling they were lying
>>42667253
Accurate
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>>42667231
But ngl the reasons id wanna is cuz I have weak ugly bones and big eyes and what not and am only 5 foot 7 which sucks not cos I dont have dysphoria plus life would be easier as a (butch), right?
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>>42667303
I think you are either trolling or delusional
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>>42667318
Bro one time I posted the most passoid pic of me ever and someone said "girl eyes"
You better believe it
Idk.....
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>>42667272
What. Makes me look like an ogre
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male brain test:
have you ever asked out a woman in public?
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>>42667231
you look like dollar store kalvin garrah
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>>42667394
no
does that make me valid :3
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>>42667400
Lmfao he was my introduction to being a tranny altho i had feelings of it before I ever came across it
Hes mad hot
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do you play as women in video games to feel more malebrained or do you make hot guys to self insert as
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>>42667231
pass as the kind of youtuber who makes videos on incredibly niche games and fills his videos with nazi dogwhistles
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>>42667394
How public are we talking? I asked this girl when I was in 5th grade at the school playground but the most nearby person was like 30 feet away
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>>42667394
I approach spoiled lesbians at the bar often. its funny how many spec points women put into yapping but never actually initiating convos
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everybody itt should gain 100 lbs
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>>42667394
Hell yeah.
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>>42667423
Most of the time I choose the male character unless I really like the female character. If a game lets you change your character after creating them I tend to do that a lot too
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ftm gen is booming on valentines of all days
quite telling
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Fatness is only masculine if you're also a massive slab of muscle like Kyriakos Grizzly who's 6' 1" 450lbs.
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>>42667231
Please someone convince me to detrans or not. I am not trolling i am being 100 percent genuine. . I have person diary entries going over this idea. Please help me
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>>42667675
If you want to detrans just do it. It's fine. Retards will freak out about it because it's bad for tranny optics but fuck them.
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>>42667675
Were you begging like this when you considered transitioning too?
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>>42667728
No. When I considered it I was 10 years old and felt i finally understood what was wrong. I just hate how feminine I look and make me want to cut my face off with a box cutter.
>>42667689
Idk.....good advice tho
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>>42667736
If you need someone to talk you into it maybe it's not the right move
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>>42667668
based and truthful. fat men and fat women past a certain point are built the exact same. Idk why ftms think becoming an androgynous blob is the move
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>>42668048
The size of this lad. Girl included for comparison.
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>>42668158
I love guys that are big like that. I want him to rape me
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>>42667394
Once in middle school kek
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>>42668231
Just a little forcible poon breeding?
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>>42668545
only a little
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>>42665921
Anyone else been getting into Kalshi/trying to make money from online betting nonsense?
t. gemini pro, colab and a dream
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Yo what up boys
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Tomorrow I will be single again. My life is hell.
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>>42667736

Imagine winning the life & genetic lottery as an AFAB and desiring to be a man.

Holy shit pooners are disgusting.
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>>42668886
What did you do
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>>42668919
My partner said me getting top surgery is a disappointment so I can no longer see a future in this relationship.
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>>42667668
true which is why i need to anamax
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>>42668947
>don't talk about it, just throw a hissy fit and break up
Lol.
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>>42668959
We did talk about it for hours today. That's how I came to this decision.
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>>42668983
Ok cool. As long as you're level headed about it. How old are you two?
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>>42668947
How long were you together?
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>>42667231
time travel to 2018 and become leafyishere
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>>42668983
nta im sorry, that sounds soulcrushing. were they cis, guy/girl?
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>>42668947
>discord relationships
Lmao
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>>42669048
>>42669079
9/10 a larp
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why arent more ftms breedable and feminine?
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>>42669011
>>42669034
I would rather not say.
>>42669048
Cis male.
>>42669079
We were going to meet this year.
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>>42669172
Online relationships aren't real and you lost nothing. You'll be good, bud.
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>>42669188
Yeah I just lost my only chance of ever having sex. No big deal.
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>>42669202
>just lost my only chance of ever having sex
Nta why do people say that if they don't even have top yet? Cis men love gaydens.
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>>42669220
I am monogamous. I am not interested in meaningless sex.
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>>42669172
>>42669202
You'll be alright anon. You could probably find someone in this general even who would date and or fuck you
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>>42669202
underage discord relationship failing is the end of the world
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>>42669262
raises hand
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>>42669172
>cis male
>Ldr
anon...
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>>42669260
Yeah cis men love trying to romance gaydens... Are you new or a minor? You sound like a kid.
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>>42669262
I will not put myself through this humiliation ritual again.
>>42669274
We are both adults.
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>>42669297
Hit me up baby I can treat you well
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>>42669295
I am an adult (perma) virgin.
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>>42669297
>>42669320
>adult adult adult
>yet no top surgery
>sad 1 dooda doesn't like a flat chest as if he couldn't filter them out ahead of time
Riiiiiight....
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>>42669335
Have you ever heard about being poor and ugly?
>ahead of time
We had this discussion before getting into a relationship and he said he was fine with it.
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>>42668912
Why disgustin
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>>42669320
STOP IGNORING ME BRO LET ME HIT
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>>42669101
The ftm femboys are :)
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>>42669282
I dont think im what youre looking for
>>42669297
Just take some time anon.
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>>42668912
Why am I specifically being targeted im not even pretty
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>>42669435
I'm looking for a cute tboy are you a cute tboy
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thoughts on me hiring a male prostitute to cum on this photo of my bratty groomer husband?
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>>42669477
Not quite lol
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>>42669484
Why hire a male prostitute when you can go to b and they'll do it for free
>>42669534
1/2 is good enough for me. hmu
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>>42669631
>they'll do it for free
they don't
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>>42669631
Im a cis guy. I just enjoy posting here.
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my husband is a doggy
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ftms: puppies
mtfs: kitties
nbs: bunnies
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>>42665921
Fuck the spiders
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>>42669834
Damn look at the schnoz.
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I am cis and I love fakeboi ftm so much I will hunt and sex murder every last one of you <3
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>>42669834
nikon spotted, tranny detected.
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these gens are so boring now, no trips, no community
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>>42670045
You're that person who shows up to the club hoping to soak up the vibe while not contributing
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>>42670051
you would be shocked to know how much of this thread is me
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the humble puppy:
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>>42670061
It's not (You) though
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>>42669834
Why do puppyboys and catgirls remind me of age players?
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>>42670010
Caught up with the thread and I take it back, boring and anxiety ridden swine
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>>42670061
Your worthless spam doesnt contribute anything to the thread
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>>42670215
one in the same
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>>42667231
Im a product of incest
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>>42669297
How long have you been on T and what's your BMI. Crucial information
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>>42667231
You are literally my exact type. Please call me a racial slur and read Siege to me
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>broke up with bf
>trying to date again
>forgot that no one in my state is attractive to me
Where are they hiding all the attractive men?
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>>42670458
What's your type
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>>42670447
https://voca.ro/1ketTm46yCgt
Chile desu idk ur race or what seige is but I would bully you and call u slurs as I have a lot of built up anger ( not against other races just in general, just saying I would raceplay)
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>>42670477
Reply with seige writings and I'll read it to you
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>>42670465
No particular type, all of my exes are different. No military, law enforcement, or medical.
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>>42670447
Am I actually ur type tho what would u do to me or want me to do to u
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>>42670458
>Where are they hiding all the attractive men?
Peak fembrain.
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>>42670519
You date the ugly ones?
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>>42670477
>>42670517
Holy shit I didn't expect you to actually do it, this confirms that you are my exact type. I want you to tell me I'm ruining this country and use ICE as a threat if I don't fuck you. I'm not black btw I'm a spic. Currently looking for Siege excerpts
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>>42670575
>missing the point
They aren't ugly. Your fembrain is just poisoned. You think you deserve Chad despite being a 4/10 yourself.
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>>42670576
Omg
I feel like this voice memo is so cringe in so sorry
https://voca.ro/18eCi3prnkoo
U r indeed ruining this country but you could redeem urself but you could potentially redeem urself by becoming my sex slave xx
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Ftm chasergen should be a thing. Ftm dudes deserve love and attention.
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>>42670659
Nobody want me
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sick and craving cherry cough drops
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>>42670585
I mentioned that all my exes are different, which is true. One was 5'4 and on was 6'5. One was 145lbs and one was 400lbs. I'm not picky about race or family dynamic, either. But they have to be at minimum 6.5/10
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>>42670685
Why is that
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>>42670645
You just get more and more endearing I wish I could rape you
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>>42670659
I’d rather volcel than get with a chaser cuz I’m too violently dysphoric to fuck anyone that gets turned on by effeminacy in any capacity. Unless it’s a really cute girl shorter than me that has mental issues but those don’t exist on here
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>>42670744
Am I cutesie do u like my aegyo
I dont want to be raped
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>>42669295
Wait cis gays like doing the wooing? Since when? Every guy I've ever had liked to be chased, then again I'm a top. You sure you aren't mixing up gaydens with bottoms?
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>>42670783
I said cis men, not cisgays. Cis men in general love being chased (tops and bottoms) but fruity bottoms require it.
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do mtfs have chasers that want to re-masculinize them?
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I fetishize ftms. Mainly bc of frotting and calling them faggots
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>>42670840
ive never once seen one. the closest ive seen was chasers wanting an aggro top futa but they still want them to be feminine otherwise
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>>42670844
Do you have any good cuntboy hentai/doujin?
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>>42670849
Ill be honest i have no idea what that is
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>>42670848
he's right you know
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I hate dd/lg fags so goddamn much
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>>42670872
what about ddlb :^)
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>>42670878
Only good if the ftm is the first half of that acronym
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>>42670857
>"I fetishize ftms"
>can't list a single +18 comic
Why lie?
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>>42670822
You said cis men like doing the romancing so you're already contradicting yourself here. Also, you just described what men in general love, not specifically cis men.
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>>42670844
I wish men like this actually existed and weren’t just using uwu affirming words for a shot at some intercrural action with a pussy (I would 100% do the same thing if I were cis though)
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>>42670849
NTA I am extremely attracted to things like this https://files.catbox.moe/bp6oad.jpeg
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>>42670885
Wrong it's also good when they switch back and forth
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>>42670872
I've never met or seen a cool, sane, nice individual who pretends to be a child being taken care of
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>>42670783
Bro I’m gonna level with you I don’t think most people know top ftms exist. Or if they do they’re all chasers who think we’ll make an exception and be submissive for them
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>>42670899
Who tf uses comics to get off
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>>42670903
Cis men love being woo'd and wooing. I've never had a guy turn down my chasing, and many have chased me. I don't see a contradiction here.
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>>42670908
Take yo gay ass back to the Reddit bisexuals we dom top in this bitch
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>>42670923
Me :)
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>>42670923
People who want particular hentai, furries, and actual fetishists.
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>>42670928
I don't see the need for you to specify cis men when trans men are the same way, you could just say men. Trans men are the same as cis men that's the point. I agree with the sentiment that wooing is good fun whatever side of it you're on

>>42670918
Trvke I am harmed by this. The worst is people who say they understand what you want when you explain and then get upset when it's exactly like what you said it would be. You don't get to be pissy I didn't give you a turn to top when I said from the start I wouldn't
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>>42670929
Shit man you feel that strongly about it just trans man/trans man my ass and show me how it's done mister dom top
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little boy moders Daddy loves you <3
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>>42670988
Does Daddy suck dick?
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>>42670918
They exist, but the vast majority of ftms are subs. Some will pretend they're switches but once they're dommed properly they stop pretending.
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>>42670973
>I don't see the need for you to specify cis men when trans men are the same way
Because anon said his former boyfriend was cis... What did you think we were talking about...?
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Bros would you still wear lingerie if we were together in a mascfaggot relationship?
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>>42670928
>Cis men love being woo'd
I really don't like being pursued. It's weird and off putting.
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>>42670999
>Some will pretend
Most men in general pretend they are tops or switches. It's not ftm exclusive, it's an assets and money issue.
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>>42671002
I thought we had moved away from the context of that guy's ex and were talking about men who chase trans men specifically, but then the description of cis men didn't seem unique enough to warrant the continued acknowledgment that this is about men who are specifically cis. I think our consensus is his best bet is to find a guy he likes and win him over

>>42671003
Depends, put a guy in lace boxers before
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>>42671009
How do you live then? How is someone supposed to get you?
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>>42671017
what lol most if us like using our dick even we like our prostate pounded too
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>>42671045
Oh you thought I meant sexually, hah
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>>42671035
>I thought we had moved away from the context of that guy's ex and were talking about men who chase trans men specifically
No, I think you did that
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>>42671017
Cis men are naturally tops, it's just typical nature. A cis girl wearing the pants is far less typical.

That being said, in the Dom/sub kink community, subs outnumber Doms. And even more so when you only count "actual" Doms. There are a variety of reasons but one of the big ones is the responsibility and pressure of being an actual Dom. You're responsible for yourself and your sub in entirety. You can't ever really slip. You have to be "on" constantly.
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>>42670999
Checked but I firmly believe the top drought is a psyop and most ftms are essentially groomed into being submissive by Big Chaser. It’s like how mtfs have the agp amazon basics starter pack, people just do it because it’s a low effort way to make yourself appealing to the most amount of people
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>>42671041
I pursue. All you need to do is be receptive and I will wreck your world, in a good way.
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>>42671070
>Cis men are naturally tops
>You're responsible for yourself and your sub in entirety. You can't ever really slip. You have to be "on" constantly.
Pfft is this your first time figuring this out?
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>>42671076
Dog, it's because ftms are afabs.
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I want to top a guy but I feel like if I use a prosthetic I'll want to kill myself the entire time because I'm just a woman at that point. Is there a cure to this or do I just stay a virgin until I get bottom surgery (years away)
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>>42671089
I was responding to someone who said most cis men pretend to be tops. Which isn't really the case.

The second part is explaining an interesting factoid about the kink community and power dynamics. Most people aren't very familiar with the kink community. They might even assume everyone wants to be a Dom, as they "get to be in charge".
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>>42671101
Get to drawing, chop chop
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>>42671162
I'm actually not the dickless anon but I might do the drawing for him at this point
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>>42671110
Dumbass the anon was talking about the gay community, cis gays lie about being tops/vers all the time to get some. Gay trans men are not different behaviorally than cis gay men. We all just want our shot
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>>42671162
I already did the 3d anim though
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>>42671092
That’s what I said but with less words goofy ahh
>>42671101
There’s no way to not make it feel like cope in the back of your head but don’t listen to nph anon even if you just use a regular garden variety non tranny specific strap you can feel more than you might expect. Plus watching it slide in and out of his ass with each thrust never gets old
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>>42671080
So how many guys have you gotten that way? Any strategy you use?
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>>42671188
Then keep it coming, we don't quit early
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>>42671189
>That’s what I said
Well no, you said it was a psyop. I'm saying it's because afabs are naturally submissive.
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>>42671204
Pursuit is always the same really. Intro, small talk, exude confidence and a relaxed demeanor, date, seduction on the date, fuck them.
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>>42671183
Yeah, I get your point, they're similar in that way. And not trying to be pedantic, but they aren't entirely the same despite being both, in tranny community terms, both "gay men", one is amab and one is afab which does definitely change behavior.
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>>42671401
Do you want their behavior to be different?
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>>42671255
They’re naturally submissive because they’ve been conditioned into doing so. No one in their right mind is submissive unless the debasement is worth whatever social gain it grants them
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>>42670872
Theyre never well adjusted. You can meet normal bdsm freaks but never ddlgers
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>>42671501
Wat. I'm just making objective observation. My desires don't really matter to reality.

>>42671509
>No one in their right mind is submissive
There is some social conditioning obviously. But primarily it's just evolution. Afabs are naturally submissive because you know, they have a female brain. They LIKE being submissive.

You can't put yourself in their shoes? Submissiveness does have advantages, less responsibility, less thinking, just follow the leader and you're good. Additionally, in more kink contexts where you're doing impact play and similar, the sub gets high off a massive dump endorphins, dopamine, serotonin and oxytocin. The Dom gets some but not nearly as much because they aren't getting the shit beaten out of them.
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>>42671307
elaborate the seduction part
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>>42671631
>he thinks gendered brains are actually meaningfully distinct biological categories
Oh ok I think I see where the retardation is coming from
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>>42671647
So it's definitely something you have to develop from practice and observation of others. And a full explanation is long as fuck but to try to break it down as best I can:

Confidence. So relaxed, dominant, in charge but not overbearing. Order for them. If you're walking into a bar ask what they drink while making small talk then order both your drinks. Be always guiding and taking initiative. Like after you get your drinks at the bar if you're going to go sit, you pick where you sit. Body language is important. Sit/stand in a relaxed "spread" manner. Do not put your hands in your lap. Open your legs. Put your arm on the chair next to you. Lean back into your chair. You CAN lean forward, that shows interest and attention during conversation. Maintain eye contact. If you feel like you're staring too much potentially, try maintaining eye contact until they look away then you look away but only after they do, then return to eye contact once they look back and repeat. Physical contact. When you first meet them, GET A HUG, in a chill manner. Both arms around their body. It implies you are used to physical contact. Experience and the implication you get bitches is sexy. Try to find an excuse to make physical contact without forcing it, like if you're moving through a doorway briefly put your hand on their waist to "guide" them through. Find flirtatious things to say when opportunity arises, adjust based on their vibe.

I typed too much continuing in next post.
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>>42671647
My general thing is to chat with someone on a dating app light, casual conversation then ask them out on a date to this bar that has mini golf. It's cheap, no reservation needed for the mini golf, public so they feel safe. Then I hug when I meet them. Get a drink, order for them, pay for their drink and mine. Then move to to a table and chat about anything. Then after we finish our drink I ask if they want to step outside, if they ask why I say so I can vape. Then chat little standing outside the bar then randomly close distance with them and kiss them and makeout. Then relax (because this is totally normal for you) and head back in to mini golf. Then keep working them. Or if they're so turned on by the makeout, go and fuck.

Keep statements, answers, questions brief. Don't tism out and get hyper specific and long winded. Talk about them. Ask questions about them. Everyone likes to talk about themselves.
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>>42671631
Would you desire for their behavior to be the same? Would it matter if they are?
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>>42671704
>gendered brains are actually meaningfully distinct biological categories
Yes. Objectively so. Male and female brains are noticeably different even as fetuses.

Evolution is quite real, brother.
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>>42671803
>Would you desire for their behavior to be the same
I think no, because them being different allows for different flavors to go after. I don't want everyone the same.
>Would it matter if they are?
Sure, for the above reason.
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>>42671791
I like your long elaborate response though, makes me feel invested in you. Dry responses feel either shallow or cowardly. Im likely just not the right target but I find it endearing how calculating you are
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>>42671818
Would anything change for you if they were the same?
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>>42671905
true androgyny
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>>42671949
Really :D?
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>>42671805
Just because it affirms your gender doesn’t make pseudoscience real
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>>42671990
yes. You look like a real half breed
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>>42671897
That's cool. I'm autistic as shit so practice was required as social things don't come naturally. Structure and planning is needed. I also have ASPD.

>>42671903
I guess it'd be just less choice? Not a huge deal.

>>42672001
Just google "are male and female brains different as fetuses".
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>>42671905
Looks well fed
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>>42671761
I'm so glad I don't have to think about any of this because I'm naturally socially competent
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>>42672328
The consequence of autism. Can't change it, so I do the best I can.

I have gotten good enough I'm quite charming though people can detect I'm "off". I was drinking as a group one time and my supervisor saw me flirt and charm a girl. He said "I can't figure you out." I just played it off and smiled and "Nobody can." And he said "Nah. You're good looking, charming but there is something off about you. You remind me of Ted Bundy." Said that in front of everyone, was lit.
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>>42672364
I always communicate the first thing that comes to my mind. The only thing I look out for is how to phrase it. I feel like it makes people perceive me as genuine because I really am being genuine most of the time.
>You remind me of Ted Bundy
That's not a compliment ASPD is like the most unattractive diagnosis of all time
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>>42672288
>just Google it
Why don’t you figure out how to do that without inundating yourself with SEO pop psychology slop
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10854110/
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Do cis men who prefer post-op flat chests to ugly tits even exist?
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>>42673720
Yes, literally me. Scars are hot
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>>42671905
This person gives me major unwashed shmegma rapist vibes
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>>42672433
>That's not a compliment
Obviously. He's saying I come off, at least to him, as a serial killer. Albeit one that was attractive and charming.
>ASPD is like the most unattractive diagnosis of all time
You'd be surprised. When I explain to people that I'm a psychopath, usually as pillow talk after we fuck, bitches are turned on by it.

Then again it's not TOO surprising. Femmes being "inexplicably" attracted to serial killers/psychopaths is a known phenomenon. Hell, dead by daylight a game where you get chased by serial killers is known for having one of the largest female player bases. The danger makes them tingle.
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>>42672742
>Largest study to date
>On average, males had significantly larger intracranial and total brain volumes, even after controlling for birth weight. After controlling for total brain volume, females showed significantly greater total cortical gray matter volumes, whilst males showed greater total white matter volumes.
>Etc.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39420417/
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theres studies showing that female and male brains have some differences, but on top of them not being very significant, transsexuals tend to have a brain sex in between or as the opposite of their birth sex.

the vast majority of the behavioural differences are learned
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>>42673979
>theres studies showing that female and male brains have some differences, but on top of them not being very significant
They definitively are significant.
>transsexuals tend to have a brain sex in between or as the opposite of their birth sex
Not shockingly, the studies concluding this are poor and lacking in sample size.
>vast majority of the behavioural differences
Behavior is primarily influenced by genetics. Not environment.
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>>42671905
face pass but body TEA
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how much bigger can i realistically get my ribcage and shoulder width with T and working out
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>>42674155
Your bones won't grow. But adding muscle adds noticeable width. More muscle, more width. Just get as buff as possible. Lift heavy, blast test.
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>>42674290
ik bones dont grow but many doods ribcages still look bigger, probably muscle between the ribs expanding it?

nice build btw if thats you
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>>42673720
Only fucked in the head ftms prefer chest scars. Cismales will look at them and wonder only what the fuck happened to you and probably think either cancer or a breast eating shark attack.
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>>42673803
What about no scars/scars that are almost invisible?
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>>42674382
Doods, as it were, literally have bigger ribcages than afabs on average. It's not that they just "look" bigger, they are bigger.
>muscle between the ribs expanding it?
Not really no.

And the isn't me. Just an example of skinny to fit. Pic related is David Laid, from 14 yo to 24 yo. Using steroids. There is some pubertal bone growth but the main difference is in muscle mass. It is good to note that he has naturally exceptionally wide clavicles and a small waist due to genetics which significantly accentuate the V-shape.
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How degen were you growing up? The worst I ever got was thinking about fucking with my same age dude cousin. Like pretty close to doing that but I never did because I was too chicken
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>>42674409
I don't mean liking scars. I plan to use laser to remove mine. I mean acknowledging the beauty of a flat chest over ugly, small saggy tits, and thus supporting surgery to remove them.
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>>42674056
Cope
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>>42674488
>stop being correct
Shan't.
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>>42674478
me and my cousin were both that flavor of degen and used to make sexual jokes with each other. low key weirded out by that shit now
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>>42674478
>>42674539
lol it’s always cousin stuff, well anyway I was kind of a giga whore for whatever reason and definitely remember sitting on my cousins lap while wearing a skirt and doing some type of weird over the pants foot job. I teased him so much I’m kind of surprised he didn’t just rape me. As for why I did it idk. I guess I just thought it was funny watching him awkwardly try to hide a boner and bullying him in that way made me feel powerful a bit too.
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>>42674615
fr whats with cousins

i dont even know what else counts as degen though. ive always been called a degen but for normies you literally just gotta watch anime for that
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>>42668947
>>42669172
Apart from the top surgery issue what is he like
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>>42674478
Not my story but my friend drunkenly told me like two years ago that she apparently would practice kissing with her twin brother. I don’t believe they stopped there and they probably also touched each other but I really don’t think they went farther than that. At least I hope not.
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>>42674689
He would be the love of my life if I wasn't born with the tranny disease, probably.
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>>42674409
i don't really care if my medical procedure has medical procedure marks and other people assume i had a medical procedure
scars are a part of life
i do scar care but thats to keep them from becoming tight not to make them invisible
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>>42674461
they really don't. pic rel will always have the bone structure of 14 year old or younger david laid on the left. looks uncanny.
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Would you fuck your pre-transition self? I don't want to relive those years. But if my pre-transition self was cloned, I'd jam my fingers in its pussy.
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>>42675115
No, I have standards.
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>>42674769
That is pretty hot
There is no way they didn’t show each other more olol
I am guessing he got in her
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>>42675115
pre transition me was either a child or a <14 bmi pre t passiod so also a child looks wise and a miserable piece of pity mentally. not my taste personally

i cant imagine what its like to have been a woman pre transition. that sounds like such a mindfuck
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>>42675377
>pre transition me was either a child
I reiterate what I said earlier >>42675165. I would do it.
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>>42674996
Put 60lbs of muscle on that frame.
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>>42673809
Why
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>>42674111

Binding is a bit of a pysop if you have a larger chest but people dont like to hear that
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MEEE.....
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>>42675413
you have standards and that means that youd fuck pre transition you if they were a child? o_o

im lagging rn how did you say no but you would also do it
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>>42675529
binding is a psyop meant to make trans men deform their ribs so theyre smaller and will never pass (i am mad at binding because im hypermobile and my ribs subluxate even without a binder)
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>>42675569
I was thinking about 14~16 yo me which would be a no. Child me is a different story.
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>>42673720
I like the hormone enhanced clit so the tits or lack of don't really make much of a difference to me.
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my chest is slowly starting to look less like tits and more like just extreme gyno shape wise
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>>42675811
Same thing happened to me due to T + starvation + binding. It's like two small flesh sacks with some fat in them. Can't wait to get this shit off me.
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>>42671905
When I opened the thumbnail my screen froze for a bit
>>42674478
I remember thinking my older sister was hot when I was a tiny kid, probably like 6 or something. Still have no idea what the fuck that was because I was generally gynosexual as a kid and then as I grew up it became impossible for me to be attracted to women. I tried dating one but they're just repulsive to me. I don't think sexuality can be changed so did dysphoria overshadow my perception of women or something
Also I remember when I was 10 and my dog was sniffing my crotch so I pushed his head closer. It wasn't sexual nor did I do it roughly but I remember being pissed and I thought that was the best course of action for some reason
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tall redneck scat gayden where are you I met a guy who wants to shit on a pooner as a fetish
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>>42675877
>When I opened the thumbnail my screen froze for a bit
Do you think its over for me
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>>42675904
IM NOT TALL BUT IM A RURAL (not redneck sorry) SCAT GAYDEN I NEED THIS PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
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>>42675845
>>42675811
Please for the love of god build pecs yesterday
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>>42674382
Posture is also a large part of it. I notice trans men often keep their chest relaxed and narrowed, proper posture should both lower the shoulders and widen the appearance of the ribcage. Slouching doesn't just reduce height and make your back look weaker, it shrinks you in horizontally. Take the posture pill.
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>>42675905
You're 3 months on T right? Just get top surgery and let fat redistribution do its thing or work out. Would you let me fist your ass and use your shit as lube perchance
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>>42675954
There is no building pecs when you have saggy gyno looking tits. There will still be excess skin left and I'll still have to chop them off.
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>>42675954
i am bruh they just dont disappear entirely like that

the tape i have rn is way too aggressive though. this shit is annoying. im just not gonna go outside ever until i get top surgery or something
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bro
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>>42675976
Le sigh sure why not maybe it could be fun or interesting or compelling
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>>42672018
is that like the thing from percy jackson qwq
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>>42674478
Dry humping with cousin who was one year older. I remember the force of something hitting my butt like that felt good. We did this just for a brief three week summer vacation our entire family did down in key west.

It happened at like 2am usually each time when the entire house was silent. My sister almost caught us but I’m pretty sure she knew we were doing something weird.
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>>42676007
Are you acting like a woman on purpose? Genuine question.
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>>42676053
lmfao kinda it’s kind of a larp especially that reply in particular
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>>42676053
but even if i weren’t larping, i am a woman, so
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>>42675990
Wondrous. I am very intrigued in your existence. Could you be racist to me again
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>>42676089
Stop mocking me snd trying to make me into a joke you retarded spic ssying ur intrigued by my existence is condescending as fuck Hence why ima call ice on you and deport yo ahh
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Is there no way to remove tit fat and reshape the chest without surgery? Can I not just drain the fat out or inject myself with something?
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>>42676126
fat usually gets less with T and with losing body fat, but the solid tissue needs surgery
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>>42676112
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usually with T and muscle gain the shape also changes, less tight/firm and more gyno shaped
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>>42676170
( i thought being mean to you would make you happy )
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>>42676162
>the solid tissue needs surgery
And is there no alternative? I would be willing to do it even if it was dangerous to my health if it meant not having tits nor scars.
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>>42674478
I thought my aunt was hot and tried to look at her changing when I was like 8 or 9
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>>42676178
>less tight/firm and more gyno shaped
That is precisely the situation I am in and it still looks like shit. Mild acceptable gyno looks like A cups, mine is more like bad gyno so saggy B cups.
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>>42675926
So we have two rural scat gaydens on ftmg? And I'd disagree with the term redneck being applied to the other one since he's Canadian.
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>>42676193
afaik no, but if you have very little excess skin you can get peri with minimal to no visible scarring. only works on a very small chest / super elastic skin though
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>>42676193
Ultimately surgery is required to actually remove it. But you may be able to shrink the glands with a SERM. Raloxifene is the best one for this purpose.
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>>42676188
It's all good anon
>>42676221
Living in a rural area with nothing to do leads you to some places I guess
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>>42676221
many gaydens seek ultimate humiliation from the cis men they date. accepting to be a guy's toilet slave amounts to admitting that even his waste is desirable to you, it's ultimate submission. so it makes sense
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>>42676346
It's not like that for me though. I don't think of it in terms of slavery but rather that we're both partaking in an extreme act of degeneracy. If the guy (can be cis or ftm) is on the cuter side I like to think of it as him being 'stained'
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>>42676036
How does that even start?
>hey why don't we rub against each other but only when no one is watching
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>>42676399
sexualisation was genuinely so normalised in my entire family, its not far fetched from some families

my parents used to talk about how sexy my body is, slap my ass, touch my chest. and my mom was still mad at her father for raping multiple people in my family (but also didnt cut him off). people are stupid
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>>42676399
I initiated it because I was masturbating a ton. Play wrestling turned into me grinding while on top of him and then it just continued from there
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>>42676608
Hot as fuck. Incest is based, you really can't get any more intimate than fucking someone of the same blood.
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>>42674478
I played both sides, I remember schlicking to my aunts feet when she was asleep on our couch and was like five seconds away from pulling my underwear to the side and sitting on my brother.
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low key horny recently but very uncreative and bored

how does one cope
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Why are you all so weird ewww
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>>42676718
They got molested/raped/abused.
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>>42676718
why are you not weird
>>42676736
hey i put effort into my personality dont give all the credit to my abusers
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>>42676676
lol I let him keep a pair of underwear because I was super into European knights and princesses at the time. I thought a princesses favor was like an undergarment the knight would keep to remember her. Well anyway he’s married now and we still see each other at family gatherings.
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Incest is a femalebrained fetish.
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>>42676830
weird take. i always saw it as a degenerate moidbrained shut in thing
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T made me look like my groomer but if he wasn't a morbidly obese fuck
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>>42676841
Every time I see some degenerate talking about incest it's a woman, the rare exceptions being momcest, sometimes dadcest and wanting to fuck your little girl sister. But when it comes to wanting to have sex with your brother for example it's always a woman or FTM.
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Can I post itt if im an theyfab
Ps the terrors are never ending for us ugly theyfabs.
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>>42676933
Ngl looking at my face is think I could be a cute! Cute! Girl but feminity disgusts me (on myself not on others)
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>>42676736
I'm not sure if I was sexually abused as a kid but I definitely don't have any memories of it. The most I experienced was my older sister being a bit too open and my mom slapping my ass a few times. Instead I got unrestricted internet access at a young age and talked to people and now I get horny when I see cartoon cats shitting
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>>42676693
>I remember schlicking to my aunts feet when she was asleep on our couch
must have been some hot feet
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>>42676939
Just give it up man you're meant to poon out
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>>42676939
You could be cute if you lost weight.
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>>42676954
I mean it depends on what u call pooning I am on testosterone yes but ive been called ma'am in public several times pre t its not like im this unclockable gigapassoid that said I havent been in public since starting (3 months)
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>>42676958
I have a fat fetish though and am scared of taking ozempic and having my bones decay. I havent eat in 2 days not weight related
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>>42676958
I was much thinner here as I was 12 but id say i look the same and I wasnt cute imo
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>>42676969
>I have a fat fetish
Gloves' existence has done irreparable damage to a whole generation of ftms
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>>42676983
Lol I had it since I was 8 years old cos exposed to inflation porn and what not on ifunny you are incorrect
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>>42676976
>much thinner
>still fat as shit
Let me guess, USA?
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>>42676991
Wtffff its weird to call me fat when I was a little ass kid but yeah usa
Like I was probably just sort of overweight, like as much as the average female in usa is now
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>>42676962
No shit you got called ma'am, you didn't even have male hormones back then. Just stay on T like a good boy and you'll become a unclockable gigapassoid
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g was my valentine
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>>42676991
Ok ignore the weird photo but like I wasnt obese bht I thought I was a fat gross hog at 12
>>42677013
>,< i will . . . I will continue to inject my 100mg weekly and what not even if I wasnt trans Id still want the effects
Thanks
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>>42677035
Ngl it feels a bjt pedophlic to post child pics but I look the same but fatter and this was the only time I wasnt obese
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>>42677035
That's still fat.
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>>42676830
how so, so many dudes want to fuck their own moms, aunts, and sisters. It is one of the most popular genres
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>>42677052
So I should become bone skinny for you!,!?
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>>42677063
Become a muscle bear.
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>>42675115
Easily. If i can't have her, no one can. Strange.
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>>42677067
Hot
If it means I could sex ftm twinks then id commit my whole life to it and work out and such
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>>42677043
There is nothing sexual about those photos. Whether or not it's a wise thing to do is one thing, but to call it pedophilic is a stretch.
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>>42677086
Ik but one time I sent a Pic of me as a kid (not these ones( and she said she would fuck me in them
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>>42677082
Start today. I'm willing to give actual advice if desired by the way.
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>>42677100
Sure go ahead
I had an epiphany that I should change my life
Please help give advice
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>>42677093
>post photos for weirdos to see
>get weirdo reactions
I dont know what you expected
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>>42676830
no it isn't lmao, men have a preference for breeding inwards, women breed outwards
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>>42677115
Lol omg no it was a friend not on here but yeah nothing surprises
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>>42677070
who took this picture
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>>42677063
No, become skinny for you. You literally said you want to be cute, retard.
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>>42675115
yes, I would impregnate myself for eternity

>>42677070
wow you had a perfect butt, or do you still?
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>>42677070
this is sad, ftmg ruined this, you would've made a balding but financially well off dorkman very happy.
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>>42677139
Screenshot from a video call back in the day.
>>42677162
Yeah my ass is actually still fantastic.
>>42677183
For what? Now I have my own life to live instead of being wankoff material. It was fun while it lasted but now it's time to grow up
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>>42676992
My exact thoughts lmao.
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>>42676933
I have a weird gut feeling about you but I'll push it aside to say that I want you
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>>42677224
What is your weird gut feeling and no im not a rapist or a pervert of weird or anything else anyone has said about my appearance
Thanks!
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>>42677203
You're still just wankoff material, dumb slut.
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>>42677070
is this legal
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>>42677224
Ngl im a little bit abusive if thats what you mean and have bpd demon tendencies but only in a relationship
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>>42677203
Once a whore always a whore. You think pretending to be a boy will undo your past but it can't.
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>>42677112
Ok first things first: calculate your TDEE using a website like this one https://tdeecalculator.net/. Then you want to subtract like 400 calories from it. Could be more, but we're trying to preserve muscle mass and keep it sustainable. Buy a food scale. It will make measuring food easier. Start counting your calories and be sure to include things like cooking oil.
Now on the muscle part: high protein will be your best friend, especially while you're cutting (reducing fat/weight while maintaining muscle). Aim for a general goal of 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight per day.
Definitely learn how to cook. Fast food is designed to be addictive and will keep you coming back because it hardly keeps you full. Protein keeps you fuller for longer.
For workouts: start with 2 times a week. If later on you decide you want something else feel free to but two dumbbells will work well for a wide variety of exercises. Ideally you would go to a store to test which weights work best for you but I'll blindly say start with 10 pounds. (Or you could go to a gym). Get the hexagon shaped ones, will be better for floor exercises if you do them. You can look up some exercises that target the shoulders, arms, core, etc. Feel free to check out /fit/'s sticky they have good info as well. Your goal for now is more to cut and then later you can bulk muscle and fat. No need to be just ripped, bulking will help with the bear half of muscle bear.
The most important thing is to take it one step at a time. If you go all in too fast you might be overwhelmed and give up. Maybe start with the nutritional aspect first. There's probably more I'm forgetting about but that's the gist of it. Good luck anon
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>>42677394
Actually on the protein thing: idk how much you weigh exactly but if it's really high you don't need every single gram of protein. Maybe like 150g just as a starting point for now. Sustainability is more important than perfect numbers
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>>42677289
I have no qualms with my past. The gay shit started long before the whore part.
>>42677233
Call me whatever you like.
>>42677258
Of course
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>>42677231
Just that you're too young for me, but ik with pooners it's hard to tell
t. 19 y/o poon that looks 15
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>>42677528
He looks older than I do kek
18 looking 13. I'm 1 year on T and most of my body is filled with hair but my facial hair is a joke
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Whenever i dont get carded for alcohol i feel like i must look fuckin old and bald and fat and pregnant.
But then realistically i just dont look like a cop
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>>42677070
would dry hump
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>>42677750
Made for grinding
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>>42677070
what do you look like now?
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Beards look like shit but I'm starting to believe growing one is the only way to make sure the people willing to date you do not see you as a woman.
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