>woman or nonbinaryI hate seeing something is for women or nonbinaries. To me it reads as the cis way of saying "AFAB." If my voicehon ass tried to join anything for "Women and nonbinaries," I'd be forced to rope. I'm being hyperbolic of course, but for some reason it just irks me a certain way.It just makes me feel like I'd make cis women and theyfabs uncomfortable. Just tell me if you want trannies or not. Stop with the progressive-coding "Woman or nonbinary" please.
>>42681936If you say "AFAB" it will end up including FTMs you retard.
>>42681954thats fine lol
>>42681936you see, having a passing voice doesn't even help eitherif anything it just makes me more anxiousi'm still trying to go outside but it's hard
>>42681954ftms can self exclude if they don't want to be a part of that shit. I personally would not join shit that says "AMAB." Hell, just say "women' ig and I'll assume it's not for trannies like me. The "and nonbinary" reeks of progressive coding when I know that if I actually showed up they'd all hate me instinctively. This is 100% me being irrational about shit, but it genuinely does piss me off to see it.
>>42681960>noooo you can't say "women and enbies" because it makes me feel excluded as a mtf!! I'm a woman too!>grouping trans men with women is fine though
>>42682019>just say "women'This I can agree with. AMAB, AFAB and non-binary are all equally cringe terms that mean nothing.
Women and spicy women
>>42681936Real womenActual womenWomen (female)
>>42681978I highkey think voice is one of the main things. If your voice passes, I imagine people will correct themselves when they hear you. This is based on the fact that I've had the opposite happen to me, where I get "ma'am"ed until they hear my voice and apologize.
>>42682188DOOOOOOOODthat's kinda funny
>>42681936I think sometimes (but def not always) when they say that they are absolutely inclusive of at least passing or obviously trying trannies. Sometimes it is exclusive tho
>>42681936can't they just say it's for adult human females? or is that just my awwtism speaking?
>>42681936>we welcome all women and non binary folx>not a single trans women on sight
>>42681936afabs will be afabs nona
>>42683709See, that's obvious TERF wording, and the kinds of people who do the whole "women and nonbinaries" thing want to get away with their TERFery without being actually being called out on it
>>42683747Exactly, or a theymab. It's all cis women and theyfabs at best.
