ASU Frat leader editionPrev >>42741200
>>42746065based warcraft 3 latinxes
>>42746076Yt men are so ugly
>>42745939tragic
You guys are blargh. Feminine men are what's really hot.
>>42746152groomer
Hi, how are you doing?>>42744277Thank you, Anon <3
>>42746152I prefer masculine men but feminine men are valid too!
fixed my washing machine all by myself i deserve a bf for this
>>42746219Oh nice! What was wrong with it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eBfZwmHoGUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mY4CRzIKaghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIn3ZZzJACgAustralia had some good music in the 80's. It's funny how everyone doing music these days has lost all sense of culture. No one really has a defining style anymore that represents where they are from and most have lost their accent... Is anything really British anymore? Australian anymore? American anymore? doesn't sound like it I can listen to music of the 80's and instantly know where the band/singer is from because of their accent and the style of the music.. I can even pinpoint different styles by city and be pretty accurate, not anymore... nothing is that discernable or distinguishable. What happened?
>>42746076>hairlessruined
>>42746227i think it didn't drain properly or something cuz i had to undo the ... tube at the bottom thingy and fill up like six bowls with weird smelling water then wipe the ump cover which was gunky and black. idk. but it works now!
>>42746253Wow that's awesome! How did you know how to fix it?
>>42746253lol you didn't fix anything, you're suppose to drain that once a month
>>42746260i googled it>>42746271wtf i have never drained my washing machine in my life. it's meant to do that on its own
>>42746280https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_8KN2-kJmoare you talking about this drain at the bottom? yeah you're supposed to drain it every 1-3 months and clean out the catcher
>>42746290really weird that the guide didn't even mention that i should be doing this often but good to know thanks nonny
>>42746305in my manual for my LG washer it says to do it that often to prevent mildew of the rubber seal
>>42746280The internet makes learning new things so easy and convenient! I've learned how to do car stuff from YouTube videos.
>>42746322I wish I could buy a house by catalog. It's crazy how expensive everything is and nothing is made as well as these homes people made from sear's catalog kits, 75-100 years ago.
He went tf off icl
I love Jesus but sometimes I just want to sin, and my sin is the worst kind of sin, presumptuous sin, thinking God will still have mercy on me for being weak and lacking strong will power.
>>42746338Even in leaves some creatures build themselves a home
young man REFUSES to work because he says he was born without his foreskin
I lived inside of a bridge before x3 it was cheap it was free
Hey guys I'm going to level with you.All the men in ftmg suck. None of them will fight with me. So I'm just going to post here.
>>42746439Did you charge people to cross it?
I was so free when I was young and I was free to do anything I wanted to now I am locked in chains and I cant do much of what I want at all because of my mental illness and my hiv :(
>>42746446Lol no but I had friends over who would climb up inside it with me and we would hangout inside of it but they would always leave and go back to their home and I was of course homeless and had to stay and sleep there which was scary sometimes but I kissed a boy inside of a bridge and I felt like that song that goes "every city has a place like this underneath the bridges where the tainted kiss" xD its grimes who said that
But it was honestly my crust punk homeless days because I was a crusty dirty junkie boy and I would do drugs I found on the ground all the time mostly outside the bar you could find crack pipes and I would smoke the residual crack out of these pipes and get high lol but it was because being homeless is physically painful like my feet hurt from all the walking because you cant loiter or cops will tell you "move it along bum"
>>42746378Help your fellow man. That's all anyone cares about.
I am so sober now because I was staying in a rehab facility for part of my life's journey and I got sobriety in my life now
>>42746466But I would also huff aerosol cans and I would huff gasoline too >.<
>>42746479Ive been busy with everything so I didn't post anything :( I'm actually suffering in my life right now because of someone close to me is mentally deteriorating and I dont know what I should do
God I love the smell of taint.
>>42746498>>42746505
When I was homeless I was sexually molested by a random guy he came up to me and made me touch his hard penis through his pants 0_0 wtf did god do this to me
My question is who just bullies homeless twinks like that? He grabbed me like he could do whatever he wanted to me and get away with it and he did ;_; but basically he had no regard for whether or not I was interested he tried to force himself on me and it made me cry and then he stopped
My question is why do rapists patrol the streets
>>42746448have you ever thought about repentance? maybe God can heal you if you bow down and serve
>>42746599>what u been doing I watched this movie and it was good actually
>>42746470easier said than done when homeless people and those in need aren't allowed in public spaces and have to hide these daysi can't just go outside and help my fellow man because I don't know who is in need anymore, and it's not like they're holding up a big sign that says "help me"... I guess I could find people in need online but whose to know if they are just scammers or not
>>42746604I pray every single day... 0_0 for forgiveness for my sins... :/
You know god and mother nature and the earth will provide you the things necessary for life even when you are homeless you will find that theres abundance and you know actually there are many people doing gods work helping the needy and its a good thing these people have auras to them and I know they are gods people because they honestly are there to help people who are lost afraid and in danger and who are suffering from mental illness and poverty
>>42746625I think its good because the plot twist was like 0_0 wow
>>42746640>You know god and mother nature and the earth will provide you the things necessary for life even when you are homeless you will find that theres abundance maybe in Canada that's true but...>1 in 5 people in Africa were chronically undernourished in 2025
But I am honestly not that religious because im not educated in religion and the people they changed the Bible so many times that who knows what thats all about but I dont know if jesus was really the son of a god I think that god is less like people and more like a force of life or energy if that makes sense but I still pray to it
>>42746672>1 in 5 people in Africa were chronically undernourished in 2025Maybe they didnt look hard enough or their survival skills were not that great
>>42746691where should they look for food?
I think that survival of the fittest is true in life too like maybe Canadians are more fit for survival i feel like africa would be easy to live in because it doesn't snow :/ maybe they should eat lizards and frogs like the Australian aboriginals do in drought
>>42746699Literally under the sand sisma there's tons of desert critters under that sand you can drink their blood... thats what I would do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayhlsRoytYo Ghislaine Maxwell is living life in Quebec and not some U.S. prison
>>42746717Queen>faceslop idviral marketing campaign
Im just saying theres food places you wouldnt even think is food if you have a survival mindset people who starve to death honestly want to die
>>42746701bitch you wouldn't have survived without costco 7/11 olive garden and doctor shmatzah feeding you hrt
https://youtu.be/EAwWPadFsOA
>>42746816*opens mouth*
>>42746076Clav will never be the same after the brootal frame mog by ASU frat leader
please stop posting poop. im going to cry.
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1771764071391417.mp4
is it possible to actually find a bf who is into monogamy, exercise, and isn't on government assistance?
>>42747026the NEET chad has left chat.
>>42746618everyone is scum or will be and deserves to be treated as such. this whole sham of a world is coming to a predictable end and its every man for himself like it always has been, and anyone who acts otherwise will be prey food for the others. the boomers taught us to eat their children and when nothing is left, eat each other. caring about anyone else is a sucker move
>>42747013its not normal to poop blood, luv. you lack veggies in your tummy
And if you vote for me I will ban Unreal engine from existence, because it's a piece of shit
if you vote for me, all of your wildest dreams will come true
>>42746990:(
>>42747193because you dream of the epstein island?
>>42747190
Do yall treat sex like "stress relief"? Ive heard that phrase many times but never related to it. I used to treat it like depression relief because i felt lonely/unwanted if i didnt fuck for too long.
i dream of genie. of what could have been.
Thinking about the past and cryingBut perhaps it's rose-tinted glasses...
>>42747305ya same thing. much could be solved if people would just jerk off quietly in the privacy of their bedroom.
>>42746613whats the movie about>>42746699https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K44DriPrLUk
>>42747305no i jack off for thattrying to find someone decent to fuck is stressful in and of itself
you guys like fleetwood mac?https://youtu.be/mwgg1Pu6cNg
louisiana <3
>>42747326Sweet home Alabama
>>427470261 outta 3 ain't bad
Eating 300g of blueberries without washing them.I live on the edge like that.
>>42747347Get that head under the shower right now
how delta yearns to be a boy again, wrestling with his sister in her bikini, sitting on his face while the dank moist clammy smell of her bulging pussy lips fills his nostrils, the damp stank sticking to his lips and chin, glistening from those gushing briny juices sopping out of her crotch, thick drops rolling into his mouth
>>42747398hot
I dunno why I love fat fucks so much, I don't even have daddy issues or anything
I was wondering what it must mean to be gay in races with tiny dicks like Asians and jeets. Clearly its not about the D
>>42747469Or the smell. Or the muscles. Or the masculinity. Or the height. Maybe they just have really shitty women.
I assembled an ikea shelf all by myself. I am unstoppable.>>42747319mmm. Stevie is so prettyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDzXbdxeeHI>>42747381I miss summer I wanna pick blueberries>>42747469idk ask sheeza maybe
>>42747479whats that supposed to mean?
>>42747486Nothing :)
>>42747469any asian porn can show you they're doing all kinds of shit. sucking nipples, putting it in each other's armpits etc.it seems superior to the anal obsession imo and YES i have a small penis
>>42747504im having an anxiety attack rn sis not now T . T
>>42747518you eat ass and you're gunna act like eating blue berries is the end of the world?
>>42747516Dr Goldstein called he wants you back on meds, bpd princess
tell that jew bastard that he can shut the fuck up. i'm not giving him my money.
would you want plastic surgery if you could get it for free from a reputable surgeon? (trannies dni)
>>42747398agp reeking post
>>42747594yeah my nose is fucking huge
>>42747594i need plastic surgery to one day be good looking
>>42747594I'm fine with my face, so nope
>>42747594Of course! For my schnose and lips mostly. And jaw. and brow
>>42747594what ethnicity is the surgeon
>>42747606I feel like even if it works in the moment you'll inevitably end up with one of those melting faces though
>>42747602Post hot big thick hung throbbing nose bby
would you categorize the guys in this image as "fruity"? (based on appearance not what they're doing)
The future of gayming is AI
>>42747190I'm voting for whoever promises free pizza delivery
>>42747381I once ate a whole bag of unwashed grapes which sounds a bit more dangeorus, maybe
are gay guys into anorexic dorky twinks with aspergers or do i have to change myself
>>42746076It's weird how straight men idolise what would be considered a 7/10 at a Fire Island circuit party.
>>42747699you can eat my ass faggot
>>42747702thats like the perfect type
>>42747432They just feel more substantial yknow? Like a real man. None of that twinky bs. Plus usually they can take a real pounding.
>>42746076plot twist, that's not a bubble pool
>>42747702you need to put yourself out there already. A guy won't just magically appear in your bedroom. Also are you actually an aspie lol
>>42747718ive been losing weight recently because ive been stressed because of study and assessments and it sucks feeling faint sometimes but i can at least sometimes look in the mirror and now be a little happier with how i look
>>42747702twinks make my pp sad and flaccid
>>42747702you're looking for chasergen (not even being ironic they'd love you)
>>42747745And what would you know about chasergen?
>>42747651i try to avoid letting people see my face in profile
I'm a top but I prefer to have my ass eaten over eating ass
>>42747763sex
>>42747702I wanted to say only if those twinks are hung dom tops but you already is a hung dom top cute twink
>>42747763Germanic daddy fr I want to suck the snot out your aryan honker
>>42747740i don't care, die
which one
>>42747797connor oobviously
>>42747740I think you'd still cute at more natural weight but whatever works.
>>42747763I love a big nose.
Now show me a twink that isn't a tranny
>>42747763oh ffs its fine leave it alone
>>427477976/10s looksmatched
>>42747758I only post in here (on this board) but sometimes I look at other gens for the lols
removed ex on dc i should be fine now :X
>>42747797neither
>>42747815but hudson is so fucking hot the stripes on his ass???
>>42747842riiiiiight and if you get busted by someone irl posting here, its just for the lols
>>42747708I'll eat that ass like it's my last meal
>>42747773>>42747786>>42747829>>42747838well thank you anonsi think it's a little out of place with my other features but this makes me feel better
>>42747877sexo
>>42747877Can't judge until I see thighs. If a guy doesn't have cart horse legs then all the rest is a waste.
>>42747877faggot
>>42747844Good riddance. Blocked and deleted is the only way to go with exes.
>>42747797neither one, ugly pr stunt bishits
At the end of the day not being an insecure faggot is way sexier than looking perfect.
>>42747862why would I get busted lol. I don't post info about myself and I only look at 4chan at home. you'd have to be retarded for others to find out if you don't want them to.
>>42747877twunk with huge tits.
>>42747877whats in his mouth?
>>42747925kinda looks like a syringe
>>42746076straight boy
>>42747668>The future of gayming is AIAi can try to top me but it'll never beat the real thing
>>42747906connor is gay for sure
im not chubby, it's muscle.
>>42747975Prove it
>>42747888So you're telling me that if a guy has great arms a chiseled chest, and a perfect ass but his calves are slightly small he's automatically trash? That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Most guys don't even have naturally big calves it's genetic. I'd rather have a guy with a great body and normal legs than some freak with treetrunks for calves and nothing else. Your priorities are fucked.
>>42747668AI will save MMOs. There are already some MMOs created with AI generated assets. It will greatly reduce triple AAA production costs for MMOs and be more profitable than ever before.
snuggle n pump, please!!!
>>42747914Nothing kills a boner faster than a guy who cant stop fishing for compliments. I'd rather bang someone who's confident and chill than a "perfect 10" who's a self obsessed instagram whore.
>>42747969doesn't label himself and played a bishit, those make him as dishonorary bishit even he just wants fujos to fuck off and stop discussing his gay personal matters
>>42748031Trip the FUCK ON shiza, you will NEVER create Metin 3, not even with AI
>>42747975I prefer both sis.
awoo~ >.<
>>42748030No I didn't say that, actually.
shiza if we play neverwinter nights 2 today you cunt might get some licks next week
>>42748053i feel like he's taking that route because once your seen as a homo it can be harder to get straight roles
>>42748080well i dont own it
>>42748085I havent seen Joker 2 but apparently he's in it. Does someone know what he does in the movie?
My boyfriend ate me.
>>42748054not me but i saw this ai generated mulgore mmo on youtube and it was impressive for what it was in a single day of development especially the ai generated character models and animations
>>42748129Feed him your heart and hole.
99% of the artists I see complaining about AI don't even create anything people would want to copy.
>>42748031Ai will just turn MMOs into even more soulless cash grabs than they already areThe only thing "saved" will be the investors' wallets while players get cookie cutter content generated by a machine that doesn't actually understand what fun is
If your art can just be replaced by a machine, was it ever that good to begin with? probably not
Hey yoouu ggguuuyyyyyssssss!
>>42748181ai npcs are a great concept though especially for everquest type mmos where you issue commands to npcs rather than having a dialogue menu
>>42747742Twinks can be cute but they feel like they might break if you look at them wrong lol
>>42748071 If you're not saying that then what the fuck are you saying? Because it sounded exactly like you were saying calves are some kind of ultimate dealbreaker. If that's not what you meant maybe try actually explaining your stupid take instead of just posting cryptic nonsense
>>42748196I think the problem is developers won't resist the temptation of having AI faux-players as well to make a space look more populated, and people will be put off if their team is 75% actually bots.
im watching this fellini movie and the protagonist looks just like matt damon in the talented mr ripley
>>42748225No I dont think I will Mr.Angry Pants.
>>42748227well idk if they were IC I wouldn't mind, would be a very immersive form of npcs compared to the usual standing around ones
>>42748196I dun think AI is a good solution tho, since it tends to hallucinate or bug out, it can be funny in something janky and single player like skyrim, but I wouldn't trust it in an MMO
>>42748256i mean rn sure but development is fast, i think where winds meet utilizes AI with some degree of competency rn
>>42748230
>>42748181I think it will open alot more room for smaller indie developer teams to create a high visual quality product easily and have room to experiment with new systems and mechanics instead of the formulaic MMOs of the past. It'll take some time for people to learn how to use AI to create game assets, but once a big hit releases, everyone will try to come in and try their own.
im having an anxiety attack after being super humiliated and im itt talking about mmo autism fuck my fucking life man i genuinely dont wanna live no more
>>42748306AI generated assets, especially 3D models are famously unusable because they are have like 7 million triangles in addition to being ugly. But even if they were good, AI would still be a tech built on stealing the hard work of artists just so crooks like Elon could reap the profits, so no thanks.
>>42748113sit your fucking ass down, and eat my pussy
Also, why would I play a game that you didn't even bother creating? AI is for conmen.
>>42748354stop mentioning vagina its so fucking gross man
>>42748238Cool. Stay dumb then. I'm sure that's working out great for you.
>>42748116he plays a prisoner who becomes the joker
Neither the guys on Heated Rivalry are attractive
>>42747797Connor easily, have you seen his ass?
>>42748388I'm the Joker baby!
>>42748394Say that again
have you ever gotten your hole destroyed?
>>42748395he has a nice ass but hudson is still more my type. i love the stretch marks on his hips/ass
>>42748416Yes. I have a hemorrhoid from it.>>42748414I mean face.
>>42748344Give it several years and it'll improve sufficiently. The big suit investors and billionaires aren't going to make a good product cause they're too afraid of making risks to try new ideas. They aren't going to be sweeping up the audience anytime soon by their rehashed games from decades ago.
>>42748425He literally looks like a bust of Antonius
>>42748366
>>42748444what? i cant find pussy gross in a gaygen?
>>42748438You should check your eyes or your head
>>42748252Immersion dies the second a bot does something obviously stupid or repetitive which AI always eventually does. I'd rather have dumb but predictable NPCs than "smart" ones that suddenly glitch out and ruin everything.
>>42748394it's true and you should say it
>>42748455what about yours? you hate it too?
>>42748471ok so youre not immersed in any game lol? dont bother replying to me further youre a libtarded pseud and im not interested in your politics driven takes on this
>>42748438yeah he's so hot it's insane to say he isnt attractive
>>42748479i dont have a pussy and the constant posting abt my supposed pussy is grossing me out
Antinous sweetie I'm so sorry
>>42748388>>42748414he has a nice ass but i want him to top me
>>42748492can you please go back to the poongen im beging you
Okay but what if AI generated Erika Kirkland
hey guys do you like this drawing my bf did for year of the horse??
>>42748304cute hair pattern, very cum-on-able
>>42748513you think i have a pussy because i find a hot gay man (connor) attractive? just because he's a fujoshi magnet doesn't make him any less hot to me
>>42748520I disagree I hate curly body hair like that
I want to be in heated rivalry but I'm the bottom goalie and Roman is the top captain on the other team.
>>42748513Seconded, sick of that tranny always going on about that damn show.
>>42748519>>42748492Which wasian do you think is cuter
my ass is yearning for gay s3x
>>42748528please aydeyn i'm literally begging please stop they're so ugly i can't take it
>>42748537You can't be in it, if a poon was in it the straight women would not have watched it nor it would've been as popular as it is todayYou place is on Webtoon, bonus holed whore
professional ball sniffer
>>42748547my bf
>>42748488My opinion isn't political you sensitive little bitch, it's about game design. Grow up.
>>42748551Wig
>>42748560The dirty talk is so hot
>>42748560In women the butthole is considered the bonus hole though. the vagoona is just yknow. there.
My bf always works so hard to make me happy. It's so wonderful.
Whenever shizza posts I always think of that video where a black woman yells "GIRL, what's going on?"
>AI would still be a tech built on stealing the hard work of artists just so crooks like Elon could reap the profits, so no thanks>Also, why would I play a game that you didn't even bother creating? AI is for conmen>My opinion isn't political you sensitive little bitchmhm anyway
>>42748529your loss, i love all body hair. i'm not a body hairist.
>>42748563you like em unshowered and musky?
we love a hard working daddy.
>>42748591im not the one posting black sassy woman gifs, different anon
>>42748563certified by the local gym locker room i'm sure
>>42748586Same here. We are very lucky man. How did you guys meet?
>>42748514she looks like temu version of angelina jolie ca. early 2000's
>>42748591>hating billionaries is political gee, i wonder why you'd say that
I tell ya, I get no respect. I went to fill my car up today and brought home one of those gas station pills. I show it to my husband and I say "look honey, it says right here on the packet I can get up to three additional inches!"Well he just frowns and asks me what I expect to accomplish with a four inch penis!?
>>42748586hopefully you're both staying sexy and fit for your manwhy would anyone work hard to make a fatty happy?
>>42748537does roman ever take off his balaclava in this version of heated rivalry?
>gay 'men' with vaginascan we please just not?don't you doods have your own thread, go there
>>42748621youre not even doing it in a populist way retard, piss off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4W0RTTeEjo
guys what flavor lolipop do you tihnk my bf is enjoiying here? please discuss, TIA
>>42748636you don't even know what that word means, goyim
>>42748642some dog flavored. probably a poodle. they love them over there
>>42748630Yes. He's cute without it too.Our Heated Rivalry would be.....much kinky
>>42748497i'd have fucked either one of your pussies as a gay man. and your only pussy is your pooper
>>42748638>i want to reinvent myself>i feel uglyI'm a 3/10 that pretends to be a 5/10 sis.
Honest rating?
>>42748648i can tell you started using that word a month ago and are having a time of your life with it rn bless you
>>42748624well....did you answer him?
>>42748660>Our Heated Rivalry would be.....much kinkythis just means pissing and forced cum eating for you -_-
>>42748684i honestly find gym fit people boringdo a sport or something
>>42748661idk what that means and out of all days to do this this is the least day to do this
clown
>>42748642cock>>427486845/10
>>42748685>no uok
>>42748692And rough cnc!
>>42748589idk which one you mean
[spoiler]Spoilers[/spoiler]
>>42748619I've never found Jolie objectively attractive
thorny got b&ed
>>42748684nice chest. don't like the oversized droopy eyes.
tired of foids invading men's spaces
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbiA8jS7jmc
>>42748708lol at pic
>>42748735Because nothing says strength like inability to tolerate women.
>>42748708i said a completely different thing at you dork, thank you for continuing to showcase why i have no interest in your opinion on this lol
>>42748758clowns make us look bad
Fffffffff was going to pick up chicken eggs but it snowing a lot. Fuck you paige
>>42748721what female celeb do you find beautiful then? jennifer connelly? winona ryder? angelina jolie's features have always been very mature statuesque. not a pretty girl next door, approachable type. not resembling youthfulness/neoteny. rather intimidating. some guys are not into that understandably. i've always found her face captivating though. every features are blown out but very balanced in harmony
>>42748787Post furry hole
>>42748735they're invited. which is what happens when you invite vagina lovers and pre-trannies (femmes) anywhere
>>42748785If a clown can invalidate you just by existing you might want to reevaluate your life.
This could be shiza, if he put down the estrogen and picked up the iron
>>42748802ive put it down months ago and killed off the last reason to come back to it today so
>>42748789Nta but I always think Sheri Moon is very beautiful, and looks natural so that's a big plus
>>42748619her brother was the first guy i ever saw who looked like he had plastic surgery
>>42748787>chicken eggswhat other eggs do you eat that you have to specifically mention chicken eggs lol? silly timurlane
>>42748809Why you're anon again?>>42748797I have hemorrhoid though
>>42748818so u dont talk to me piss off
>>42748813the slavic genes probably didn't for him as a guy
>>42748655that is racist but if my bf ever did eat a dog or a cat as part of a cultural practice i would not hold it against himhowever he loves cats and dogs as pets, not food. you racist fool.
>>42748809is it true you got fucked this weekend? are you no longer a virgin?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLO2GI5dz5M
>>42748839is this story i made up about you just now is true?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBlKieLUmE8
>>42748826You need some prep H and a long day outside. poor Cezary>>42748817Hey brother. You're right. But also I buyed duck eggs recently. I'm waiting for turkeys to lay.
>>42748867I want duck eggs. The supermarkets here don't carry them.
>>42748593I like em with that lived in funk yeah. That natural scent is better than any cologne.>>42748606I've got a phd in locker room etiquette. My thesis was on pretending to tie your shoe while getting a good long look
shizer saw the light of jesus christ and it helped her slay her demonic transgender past.
>>42748867ive never had duck or turkey eggs. do they taste different?
>>42748892a detroon is still a troon
>>42748879looking is easy, sniffing is harder
>>42748899why
>>42748892oh hey there, texanon. so, what are you mad at today? :3
I’m tiered of being discriminated against for being a fudanshi. We are not all pooners!
>>42748908mental illness is often incurable
>>42748915yes you are
New masc >>42748929
>>42748933No I have a penis
>>42748912i'm at work so i'm mad about that.
>>42748923i didnt even crossdress or anything like that though, i dropped hrt as soon as i got my mental together also
