Trying to figure out how I would explain myself if my mother ever found my estrogen or syringes.For background:I'm currently 18 years old in my first year of college, and I started HRT last week. I'm hoping to finish my Bachelor's in three years, then get a dorm in the States while I go through my graduate studies. I'll obviously be boymoding while I live with my parents.Due to my autism diagnosis she knows I have no qualms with being a complete social reject, but she still wants me to find friends, and despite my insistence on the contrary, sincerely believes I'll someday have a wife and kids. I'm an only child, if this is relevant.She's religious, and completely politically disengaged. When I was a kid, I had been asked multiple times if I was gay (I'm not), and was assured that I would not be punished for it, but I have no way of knowing how coming out would've ended for me.I've malefailed multiple times in public before (mainly due to long hair + frail physique) while with her, and she's allowed me to get laser hair removal in the past (though it did not last since I was not on E). I've never had a particularly masculine or feminine personality.I have off-handedly mentioned the idea of micro dosing estrogen to prevent facial hair growth and the like. Her main concerns were voice changes and breast growth (I lied about this not being a factor), but after I assuaged her questions she gave me a completely non-committal answer and never asked about the subject again, which makes me feel like she did not take me seriously at all, and actually witnessing me inject gray-market hormones behind her back will trigger a completely different response.Basically, how possible is it to pass off HRT as just a bodymod thing rather than being associated with trannies? I love my mother, so if it came to it I'd rather be able to meet her halfway on this instead of just cutting her off or repressing.
>>42765392Sounds like your mother just didn't want to be factor in your decision process as an individual.>completely politically disengagedI could've stopped here and concluded that you answered your own question. >makes me feel like she did not take me seriously at all.She seems cognizant. Not ignorant or pushy. Especially when a hot button political topic has been parental guidance into ideological and non-reversible body modification surgeries. Culturally speaking, it's by-the-book harm averse. Not experimental. Not bad. >Her main concerns were voice changes and breast growth At least she looked into it.
>>42765487>At least she looked into it.She didn't actually do any research, these were just the first two questions off the top of her head, but I guess it suggests it's a non-issue to her as long as the changes don't cause much social friction?>Culturally speaking, it's by-the-book harm averse. Not experimental. Not bad.Yeah, it was a better response than I had expected, even if I was just testing the waters.>I could've stopped here and concluded that you answered your own question.I suppose. It's not like I'm dealing with a reactionary terf so I might be safe
>>42765392When you say her "main concerns", what do you mean? Because concern could be either>but nona, wouldn't you grow breasts? aren't you a boy?or>nona, don't be silly, you aren't one of those troons, are you?like her 'concerns' just idle wondering or was she suspicious?but otherwise you seem mostly in the clear, yeah. good luck and god speed, nona
>>42765808>>but nona, wouldn't you grow breasts? aren't you a boy?Closer to that, yes. She didn't seem to clock the implications behind me taking hormones. I don't remember the full conversation, besides her telling me to not do anything I might regret and to keep safe, so it does seem like she's giving me autonomy on this.>but otherwise you seem mostly in the clear, yeah. good luck and god speed, nonaI'm cautiously optimistic for the future... Just a bit neurotic since y'know I obviously depend on her, but I know she wouldn't do something psychotic like kick me out or send me to a ward...
>>42765724If I had to draw a line between alt, hormonal, and surgical body modding. I probably could.It's always bizarre to me how people have reached past the extremes of alt-parlor store mods and grab handfuls of hormones. I find the the extremes of piercings and parlor tier modification to be very creative (for lack of better term). possibly even more flexible and less risky. Barring some stuff like sclera tattoos, tongue splitting, and scarification. I find trans has leaned way further towards the medical field and favoured plastic surgery. Mind you, the baggage that comes with that. Not even to mention things like literal borging with stuff like neurolink.Which, you basically sign up for a type of dystopian cyberpunk corporate draft to get ahold of while signing a waver. (I can only imagine).What most people want seems to be a combination of high end parlor, high end plastics, and even prosthetics grade. My opinion? Not even being at least familiar with parlor means your skipping how to develope expectation setting on an level far less risky. But then again, it's probably more cost effective to skip all smaller mods that will Nickle-and-dime you to death and get the most impactful mods for what you want ASAP. It's like going from never getting your ear pierced to getting a kame no ko because it looks cool. Idk, even some things are ritualistic so I can't lecture too much. There are definitely distinctions and ways to mod without "trooning" but it has been an uncomfortable truth for awhile now.
>>42765392>voice changesNo one gets voice changes from estradiol though.Women sound the way they do because they didn't go through male puberty, not because estradiol made their voices high pitched.If you prevent male puberty you can make a male's voice stay more like it was when he was a child in a similar way to how women's voices work, but hrt isn't going to make someone's voice go from sounding like a man to sounding like a woman.
>>42765884That's what I told her>>42765864What
>>42765890>Basically, how possible is it to pass off HRT as just a bodymod thing rather than being associated with trannies?You asked for an escape valve. You have one. Cyborgs are politically neutral. With things like neurolink. Even with augmented reality integration in some "smart" glasses, it's not unrealistic to envision optical implants being within our lifetime. A leap from a tattoo to taking hormones isn't that far on the spectrum, logically. Extreme modders kinda did the whole bit to be circus freaks. This is a no-no in the world of plastics.
>>42765392>Boomer twinkhon>Same young adult experienceNormies will know you're a tranny, but won't say anything unless you are very familiar because it is a social taboo, it's just a cope that you would be better getting over early because this is a direct path to pick-me brain worms.
>>42767121I don't really have serious social interactions with anyone besides my immediate family, but I do agree that I am coping by trying to dodge queer labels.>pick-me brain wormsCould you elaborate?
>>42765392I NEED a housewife(male) who was raised religiously and isn't a lascivious whoreIf we get married I'll give you my military benefits so you can go to school
>>42765392>>how possible is it to pass off HRT as just a bodymod thing rather than being associated with trannies?been on e for half a year and I am super concious about my boobs. yet my own mother didnt mention them once despite them being 100% visible through shirts.she also never mentioned how weird it is that her "son" is suddenly getting letters and packages under a completely different name so I might just be too eccentrick for her to question any of this lol
>>42768044How would your mother and father feel knowing that their son wants to be a girl and get held down by a man and filled with their seed?
>>42768071boohoo why should I live for someobody else?!worst case they kill themselves and I inherit everything early
>>42768107I didn't mean it as a "you should be ashamed of yourself" thing goofy ass
>>42768139gomen' gomen' it appears I got a bit too silly~
>>42768171I'll accept your apology if you bless my tea or pancake breakfast with your emissions
