why are they so obsessed with trying to look like the 1% of men? they idolize men with bone structure that 99% of men will never even get close to. i'm talking>strong jaw and chiseled features like a marble statue>very tall>hunter eyesi see it all the time on tiktok. why don't ftms and cis incels try to look like tom holland or michael cera or even josh radnor?it's like if every mtf wanted to look like nicki minaj or at least have her proportions
>>42776902>wanted to look like nicki minajgenuinely gross, that is NOT the 1% of women lmfao
>>42776915it is if we're talking about hip width and other proportions. hyperfemininity
>>42776902also these features stop looking good at some point, liek in picrel...it's liek women who get way too large fake breasts and lips the size of bananas...idk why, but most ppl don't seem to get that buity lies (in the eyes of the beholder, yes, yes, but also-) in simplicity and symetry
>>42776902because of unrealistic beauty standards for men. the new wave of semi mainstream incel lookism makes men think they all have to be gigachads.
>>42776902It makes sense if you think about it:>person is unhappy >person attributes this unhappiness to not being masculine enough (ftms do this because of dysphoria, incels because they can’t get laid and think being more masculine would achieve that)>person wants to be more masculine>looks at the most extreme examples of masculine appearance>obsessed over these>ends up pursuing insane body altering techniques in order to try to achieve this extreme goal
>>42776902I don't idolize men like that, I can date men like that but I really don't want to look so neanderthal even tho its manly. I wanted to be a pretty boy and I succeeded>t.ftm
>>42776954Tiny asian women are hyperfeminine and yes, lots of trans women yearn for that. Nicky minaj is feminine in same way as Mike Israetel is masculine
>>42777108>Tiny asian women are hyperfemininephysically they're not. they're actually pretty androgynous. small boobs and flat butts. wide hips and a hourglass or even pear shaped body is what having hyperfeminine proportions mean. >Mike Israeteli looked him up and it says he's 5'6 which would make him a terrible example. he just looks like a short chubby bald man on steroids. that's not the kind of hypermasculine perfectionism that incels chase. OP is a much better example of that.
>>42777011such as clavicular?
>>42776902one of my pet theories is it also has to do with ftmale role models being basically nonexistent. trans men can go stealth, live a good life as a normal 5/10 guy and never interact w trans people again. they live healthy lives but don't model that for younger trans men. so ftms grow up isolated and think that because they belong to the category trans they will never be happy, because they see no happy trans menthe only people who you see on social media who are out as ftm are pornstars or delusional/ugly "queer" activists who talk about the female experience of being a man or whatever.also just extreme dysphoria. i talked to a guy who had dysphoria over his fingernails. people like that are gonna buy into "your nose is three degrees too feminine" because they already believe that bullshit. it just reaffirms their biases
>>42778609good post
>>42776902I've never seen ftm into that sort of content because it's not very attractive
Masculinity is a hierarchy. You will gain respect from other people based on your standing. (Pircel will always be more respected than the guys mentioned)ftms need to compensate for their lack of masculinity, they start at the bottom and will likely never leave it (small, no dick, soft features). This is a hard pill to swallow so they grow obsessed.
>>42779433>Pircel will always be more respected than the guys mentionedsure but what's the point in ftms and cis male incels aiming for the unattainable?
>>42779505No point. Just the sweet spot between escapism and self harm. You can either kys as an act of misplaced agency or accept that you have no agency and live on. Either way there a things which you cannot change. It is escapism from that realisation of helpless.
>>42779433>ftms need to compensate for their lack of masculinityI always looked at cis men and assumed this is what they were doing
>>42776963Picrel looks good. Women are such liars lmfao you would date him if he asked
>>42780196ya that anon is dumbop's pic was a hollywood sex symbol
>>42777299It’s funny because looking like israetel is actually possible for pooners.
>>42778609Most ftms I see are young kids desu, its nice watching them youngshit themselves. I support them
>>42776902I look like that and I'm a trannyTHIS SHIT SUCKS MAN
>>42776902>ftm wants to do something not masculinebad and wrong>ftm wants to do something masculinebad and wrongyou can never fucking win with these people
>>42784113how did you achieve that?
>>42777299Asian women are tiny and neotenous (feminine) there are two types of feminine: emphasizing femininity (big ass, hips and tits and emphasizing neoteny: child like, cute, big eyed, tiny and hairless.Asian women are very feminine
>>42786521>there are two types of feminine: emphasizing femininity (big ass, hips and titsthat's femininity>and emphasizing neoteny: child like, cute, big eyed, tiny and hairlessthat's just neoteny. not femininity. neoteny may be associated with femininity in many parts of the world but that doesn't mean they're the same thing
>>42776902im a repper and I have this exact side profile
>>42776902Because poon zooms are a bunch of fat lazy gross slob niggers and they know they're ugly women or not the most conventionally attractive to the new zoom incel lookism doom trend so they sperg out and become circus freaks, in reality they're abhorrently grossly female brained staring and admiring shit like this, OPs image for example if a pooner zoomer was into shit like this I would immediately force her to cover up in a niqab head to toe zero skin because of the colossal female brained behavior I would have just witnessed. They're all like this, and honestly it's why I'm only into trannies / feminine males, because that kind of poon worship of OPs image is right in line with the lowest IQ of women imagineablet. Knower
>>42788092u sound like a chud
>>42776902Why would I want to look like this...??
>>42786521Your 2nd type isn't femininity, it's straight up pedo shit the way you describe it
