99% of trans women don't truly pass. The 1% that do are youngshit luckshit hsts types that started in early puberty.>inb4 b-but I passYou don't. You think you do but the vast majority of trans women will have something off about them that makes it very clear they're male to everyone around them.
>>42777251passing is a tree with many branches and you are referring to but onebesides True Cispass we have- negative androgyny- weird alien model aesthetics- fat/ugly woman- frumpy femcel- cishonunderstand you can PASS AS SHE/HER without passing as cisF, there comes a point in trooning where most people will be uncomfortable referring to you as male, he/him, or masculine, which is sometimes called passing but more accurately called "blending". Once you blend you may stay there or you may end up in one of the other passing bins with the caveat that passing is relative so you can cispass to some while being obviously trans to others.
>>42777251What if I walked into a room where a doctor is doing check ups on everyone in the clinical study I'm participating in, but she asks me how my period is?
>>42777407>go to er because of sciatica>"so um... when was your last period?"How tf is that relevant. Just give me muscle relaxers, jfc.
100% of trans women don't truly passpassing is a myth
>>42777407>>42777424They are trained to ask everyone who is female this question regardless of how outwardly obvious it may be that they're trans. I've even heard of middle aged hons being asked if they're pregnant or nursing after telling the doctor they had SRS
>>42777251>>42777434
>>42777434lol
>>42777251I pass well enough to not KNOW that I don't pass though and the fact that i'm trans is something people secretly know rather than something publicly known. Which is better than being a pre HRT repper like (you).>>42777434Then why do you talk about trans people on this board every day?
>>42777456yeah because cis women can and often look like this. if people weren’t terminally online they’d realize it.
>>42777495Only top right looks vaguely trans and vast majority aren't that manly
>>42777479Who is this
>>42777326This is cope. The only one that matters is cispassing and there are probably only a few hundred transwomen in the entire world who pass as cis.
>>42778158>t. anon who can’t into statistics or data analysis>or 8 billion+ people in the worldThe amount of cope in your post.
>>42777251Stop coping >inb4 (the one true blackpill retard fuel to pretend there's some essential nature to reality that makes me helpless and especially informed)just put on your makeup whore we don't pay you to try thinking
these threads are so stupid. statistically we have a number of trannies who should exist in the population from surveys, albeit a range. however even the most conservative estimates should yield far more trannies than the few we see. we also do not perceive trans men to anywhere near the same amount as trans women. this is because many many trans people pass
>>42778454>t. can't think abstractly or take into account other factors besides raw numbersMost people live in the 3rd world where trannies are highly discriminated against or don't have the financial means for expensive surgeries. It's pretty much only first world/wealthy trannies who might MIGHT have a shot at being cispassing.>>42778526>this is because many many trans people passOr you're just coping
>>42778603>t. still entirely ignorant of factors contributing to the argued cispassing tranny, such as genetically predisposed hormone profiles to chromosomal conditions, to even the basic fact that countries such as Brazil, or Thailand quite literally handout HRT OTC.You’re consumed by your own biases and determined to repel any contradicting evidence to your worldview. Seethe while you’re at it.
>>42777495my ribcage is wider than their shoulders
>>42778698>such as genetically predisposed hormone profiles to chromosomal conditionsThings that affect a small proportion of trans people, let alone the general population>such as Brazil, or Thailand quite literally handout HRT OTCThe two most trans friendly countries in the world. They're not the norm and I'm still considering them when accounting for estimates.
>>42778158>pass as cisto WHOM?Why does every sneed treat passing as an objective state when it's so obviously relative? If Hunter Schafer wasn't a famous trans actress no one would be clocking her on the street or in conversation except crazed phobes and other troons. But since she is, she no longer "passes". Clearly the ability to pass hinges on foreknowledge of someone's cis/trans status and their personal familiarity with sexual dimorphisms.There's no measuring stick that measures absolute passability and there's no way to possibly estimate how many trannies pass. You're pulling "a few hundred" straight from your ass, bsfr.
>>42778866Not only is Hunter Schafer considered a top 1% tranny and a youngshit but she STILL looks totally different when standing next to ciswomen.
>>42778776>72 million in Thailand, 213 million in Brazil, 330 million in the U.S.if even being generous and using the lower predicted trans population, that’s still 6 million~ trannies just from those three countries, like numbers wise, cispassing trannies are going exceed beyond just “100” trannies, like wtf are you smoking?
PSA: for anyone else being blackpilled by this thread, right after I read it i exited my office to walk to the break room down the hall. A group of old boomer men from another company were standing near the door. As I approached one of them said to the other "watch out she needs to go through that door!"They aren't woke trans positive liberals trying to humor a tranny, they are almost certainly a majority republican group.Passing is not a myth, I started HRT at 30. I wasnt wearing makeup. Do not listen to the relentless demoralization psyops posted on this board. Most people can pass as the opposite gender with HRT and presentation changes.>>42778949She looks better than them because she's taller, skinnier and more attractive you mean?
>>42778949here are some cis women for you to mald over and cry “tranny”
>>42778158>only a few hundred
>>42778158>toupee fallacy
>>42778977a.) I said a few hundred, not 100.b.) I'm looking at official statistics and estimates specifically for transwomen. You sound like you're playing fast and loose with stats considering you were so concerned about them before. c.) Another pic of a supposedly top tier youngshit tranny and you can still see the boyish features
>>42779003They don't look like trannies>>42779022ONE filtered and anglefrauded photo when you tell that dude is huge. Idk how many trannies I've seen who look great in one or two pictures, then you see a few more and they look straight up like men.
>>42778949Hunter is a top 1% tranny because of attractiveness, I wouldn't say she's top 1% in passing by almost anyone's definition.
>>42777251Also even if you face pass as cis, no one ever body passes
>>42779055we get it itt you're insecure and you think like a child
>>42779120I acknowledge your defeat
>>42778526Actually thats because of problems with the survey, language difference, people not understanding the question, and other misleading or incorrect responses. Many trans people are invisible because they are only trans on reddit, they have not started transitioning and probably never will.I agree with your general post though. Even assuming like even if you assume .125% of the US Population identifies MTF, that's still over 4.3 million people. If only 1% of them pass that's over 43,000 passing trans women in the United States alone. If we assume a similar figure for the EU it brings us to about 100,000 trannies. If you consider Latin america which has approx 440 million between south and central america, you likely ad another ~50k passing trannies.Then we have: Thailand and the Phillipines, which each have a surveyed population of 150,000 trans women, adding another several thousand at least, and that's not even considering the rest of Asia.So even going by OPs estimate there are hundreds of thousands of passing trannies in the world. You could never meet them all. You could theoretically go your whole life talking and dating ONLY passing trannies and never meet them all.And of course the real number of passoids is certainly quite a bit higher. Maybe 10, 30, or 50 times that amount. I would estimate 3-5 million passoids world wide. That means there are probably roughly as many passing trans women as there are people in the entire countries of Namibia or Mauritania, which are both large diverse African countries.
>>42779055Can u give ur take on my estimate using your suggested figures? >>42779179
>>42779055>we can somehow gather a definitive count of trans people under the current environment where said group is encouraged to remain stealth if able, both for their safety and social acceptanceI redirect you to >>42779038>>42779074>they don’t look like trannies>previous anon easily bitching about “boyish” features from >>42778977Double standards>ONE filtered trannyThere’s literally a fucking video of one here: >>42777479Enjoy another pic and seethe some more
hi chuddy! here is a relevant hazbin hotel image for your post.
>>42779197You dont need to get a definitive count you can run estimates based on a range of publicly available data and some common sense assumptions and even if you make conservative assumptions you'll end up with thousands upon thousands of trannies at least. Which makes sense because other rare genetic mutations and intersex conditions also have many people worldwide who have them.
>>42779179Latest estimates for US are about 700,000 transwomen. Your whole post is very much wishful thinking.
>>42779197>Reverse image search>Find reddit account>All her pics are filtered to hell and she has a very mannish torsolol
>>42779310oh really? what's the username, so we can all see? :)
>>42778158most intelligent seething chud lmao
>>42779280And what's than number divided by 100?I don't actually care how many trans women there are. You're saying there's "only" 50,000 passing trans women total? That's still more than enough. There are 450 guys in the ENTIRE NBA and young boys still DREAM of being in it and practice for it every day. So you could have between 50 and 100 entire basketball leagues composed *entirely* of passing trans women. By YOUR new estimate. It seems that YOU are telling me i have a 50-100x better chance of passing as a woman than I do of going pro in basketball.So it is YOUR world view and assumptions that are wishful thinking, all you're doing is demonstrating more and more that transitioning to female is fairly common and perfectly reasonable to aspire to relative to anything else.
>>42779310Yes “mannish” torso mhm mhm
>>42779310work your magic
>>42779310Interesting claim. Got any proof of these filtered obviously unpassing pics you claim to have found?
>>42779445Okay NTA but this is obviously photoshoped in the most crude tasteless Chinese way possible also this amount of surgeries is ludicrously bimbo-ified and no normal woman aspires to look like that so it's not really a debunk.
only “hundred(s)”
>>42779458By all means, regale us on the details of what technical methods are employed through photoshop to achieve that imagine manipulation. Or even just provide us with a photo of her supposedly being more masculine than here. In the meantime enjoy some more
>>42779501>https://www.reddit.com/user/MissQueeraNightly/submitted/Here's her reddit profile. Not a hon but you can clearly see the masculine features in other pics and videos.
>>42779458There's a hundred different ways that people can filter/touch up pictures and video to falsify reality these days. Even >>42779425 taftaj has admitted to shopping her stuff.
>>42779501I said i'm NTA, retard. I'm just sayingif you look at her ass and breasts its obviously altered. Not only is it malebrained and tasteless to ignore that but its not particularly helpful to point to something that is heavily edited OR has a huge amount of plastic surgery. we're talking about whether people can pass with reasonably available means and kind of implicitly talking about transition after puberty. Most people don't have rich accepting parents, health insurance, ability to self fund surgery. Also fwiw most people don't want to pursue literal sex work as a career. And I feel the same way about taftaj, she's a youngshit, she's a literal whore, she has unusual circumstances, and she has a very unappealing personality. I wouldn't want to trade places with her because I wouldn't want a life where my womanhood is entirely defined by being an internet whore parading my naked body around for the enjoyment of men and forgoing ever getting sex reassignment literally because of capitalism and fealty to male sexual desire. So that's just my take like posting a plasticized prostitute makes transition seem both more unattainable and less appealing to the average/ordinary person.
>>42779602Okay so i am not sure if you don't know what NTA means but you're not even disagreeing with me in this comment. Is everyone on here retarded?
>>42779583>masculine features a disqualifier for cispassingWhat, is it uncommon finding these features in cis women or something? Have none of you visited a city or town that’s more than 1k pop?
>>42779626>look at her ass and breasts clearly alteredmy own mother and sisters have that identical fat distribution for both their asses and chest, not every secondary sex characteristic that appears “pornographic” is a fucking surgery psyop. Stop living in a basement.>it’s not helpful to point to something heavily edited or has huge plastic surgeryNot every trans girl is getting surgeries, and it’s hard pressed finding even cis women posting unfiltered pics. Your best exposure is to literally meet people IRL, both cissoids and trannies and form a more rounded understanding.>we’re talking about if people can pass with relatively available means and/or post puberty And I’m arguing that yes there are so fucking many examples of trannies filling that criteria, that surgery or transitions pre-puberty is not the deciding factor for every tranny (with the caveat that there do exist trannies with bad luck genetics needing surgery or to have transitioned pre-puberty to have had better chances as passing).>most people don’t want to pursue a career in sex workneither do trannies has a conglomerate, half these pics being that type tho is because that type is easier to collect evidence of, rather than any stealthies just up and outing themselves.>shit talking taftmoot opinion idrc either way, just using her photos as evidence when these chuds proclaim “trannies don’t pass!!”
>>42779753Yeah that brow bone and jaw line are totally comparable to Olivia Wilde's you're not fooling anyone
>>42779839>just using her photos as evidence when these chuds proclaim “trannies don’t pass!!”
>>42780080>you're not fooling anyonethe audacity to say this with THAT picrel. are chuds even more brainwormed than actual trannies?
>>42779839Oh my fucking god you dunbass that Chinese model is clearly photoshopped and it is blindingly obvious you are fucking autistic stop arguing. She looks like a cartoon. I'm not reading the rest of your posts i've been following taftaj for over a decade she's an overly surged pickme bimbo. This is not reddit stop making pointless arguments no one is going to upvote you.
>>42780173>an unflattering photo is valid for trannies but not cissoidschew on concrete while you’re at it
>>42780195Guess I was wrong. Trannies are delusional enough to fool themselves.>>42780356Yeah, they're ugly. But they still look like women. Also curious you use what is clearly a /pol/tard compilation of ugly jewish women.
>>42780389>ugly but look like women>ignores the same trite comments used to attempt to clock tranniescope>poltard sourceIt’s a sample size of identified cis women relative to the topic. If the goal is to be anti-semitic that’s a you problem.
>>42780389here is a relevant hazbin hotel image for that response.
>>42779422And yet you keep replying because deep down you know I'm not wrong.
>>42779422I don't think they're comparable. The NBA has enough teams spaced out and running a team is expensive. There's no point in having 50-100 teams just because. That would be like competitive recreational basketball atp. Also basketball is a lot of work and transitioning is mainly genetics and kinda how rich you are.
>>42777251>>42777434>>42778158>>42778603>>42779055>>42779086>>42779422Passing is obviously not binary, it depends on the observer (this is a big one, people who don't spend a lot of time around trans people or think about the subject much are less likely to guess), the lighting, how good you are at dressing and doing your makeup in a way that helps you pass, etc.
>>42777251any advice for me to pass?>>42783216
>>42777326>understand you can PASS AS SHE/HER without passing as cisFThis is the kind of 2016 tumblr hugbox bullshit my friends used to tell me (back when I actually had friends). What this translates to in non-tranny language is that you won't pass as a woman but you will be recognized as a tranny and maybe if you're lucky people will pity you and gender you the way you want anyway. But probably when go to the gas station at 8:30 PM the 45 year old tub of lard behind the counter will still say "have a good night, SIR" after you pay him and are already halfway out the door And then you spend the whole drive home seething about how you still don't pass after 9 years of "living as your true self" and you wonder if things would have been better if you had stayed a repper
>>42777648Until you hear her voice or see her move with malebrained body language
>>42778490The essential nature of reality is that this is a cis people's world and trannies will always be subordinate to the will of the cis
>>42778866Hunter clearly has a male skeleton you are simply coping (and seething too)
