The recent discourse about this new Misha game is interesting looking from an outsider's point of view. It's interesting to see chuds and incels hate on women and trannies so much and cry "degeneracy" when most men are just as sexually charged as them. I believe most of this hate is not due to some sort of trauma or ignorance, far from it; I think it stems from envy.Excuse me if this will sound schizo; I am probably just autistic and unmedicated.I would like to present a thought experiment.Ask an incel why they hate women, they will talk about hypergamy, how they're all soulless narcissistic bleeders and harlots who don't care about anything except themselves.Ask a sharty 'teen why they hate trannies, they'll go on and on about how it's caused by porn, suicide rates, mental illness, Discord, grooming, echo chambers, delusion, so on and so forth.However, ask these parties what they would do if they suddenly woke up as a woman. Most, if not all, would unanimously say they would engage in sex, masturbation, engaging in feminine activities, overall being hypersexual. There is a mass interest in this sort of hypothetical; one can go on and on about the intricacies of /d/ genderbend threads and GYWB and whatnot, but the point being is that this scenario is almost always presented as a far-off fantasy.I think that a lot of (these kinds of) men are secretly envious of women and sometimes wish to have some of their qualities, and the fact that some are making a genuine attempt (whether out of dysphoria or sexual fantasy) disgusts them because to them it's a boundary never meant to be crossed; to them, you never act on your fantasies.They have only experienced the idea of being the opposite sex only in hypothetical and fantasy. And so, they find ways to justify this, picking at the outliers and labeling stuff like autogynephilia, making hasty generalizations. tl;dr: niggaz wanna be women so bad n shiet
>>42781197>Most, if not all, would unanimously say they would engage in sex, masturbation, engaging in feminine activities, overall being hypersexual.uhhhhhhh doesnt that make sensewhy would you keep acting like a man if you no longer have a penis or balls
>>42781197this is a good trvke nona
lmao gender bender porn game
>>42781232Because all they do when they think of being a woman is sex. Again, look at most genderbender tropes. Most instances of the trope involves a guy waking up as a girl or being turned into one, and every single time, the first thing the guy does is check out their tits, ass or their pussy. Most genderbender art immediately jumps to the guy-turned-girl playing with herself or getting fucked. It’s a common trope.If a guy got turned into a girl, I guarantee you he would become Tomoko Kuroki within a day.
>>42781197once I asked a big group of friends and every single man said they would get fucked, do sex work, etc if they woke up as women. normal men btw, not chasers, reppers or whatever
>>42781397I mean it makes sense doesnt it ?I wouldnt say I hate women but I dislike em and Im extremely envious of what they can do..Its so unfair that they can just hop onto any dating app and get as many cocks as they want and mind u they can even pick and choose WHAT ?Also not being seen as a monster/danger/threat etc is cool too...Literally life on easy mode.I absolutely hate being a straight guy in todays world Id give anything to become either bi or better yet a straight woman... the amount of cocks Id suck and money Id make.. holy shit my life would be paradise while currently Ive only done sex with one person I was never into...
>>42781197>I think that a lot of (these kinds of) men are secretly envious of women and sometimes wish to have some of their qualitiesI think they're cisgender, but like the social role of women, but also don't want to be actual women. The ultimate fantasy of a people with that kind of envy is like a role reversed society, where men are the ones who are pursued and valued for their sex. There's legit whole genres of smut dedicated to this kind of stuff.
>>42781820you know you can suck cocks right now man
>>42781820you are not normalthe guys that I asked would do it out of curiosity or to make moneyI also asked women but obviously its not shameful for them to admit what they would do if they were menmen and women are sexual, if people could change their sex magically and instantly, they would do it a few times, have sex and eventually get bored, both mtf and ftm. normal people are curious but feel good about their body and situation, trans people are the opposite, not curious (post transition) and feel awful about their body and situation
>>42781299What are your letters?
>>42781397>would get fuckedThose men are gay lol, they need to unlearn internalized homophobia and let men fuck themAlso getting fucked is so fucking mid, there is a reason why girls don't want it as much guys do, piv is just for male pleasure
>>42781397I had asked a few men the same question, and most answered the same kind of things. Only one talked about nonsexual stuff, like how he'd dress if he was a woman and what he'd act like XD
>>42784480that's HSTS and AGP for ya
>>42784484I thought that these categories apply only to trannies...
>>42781197don't really care about what you're sayingthe idea of a dude brain being put in a female body is interesting for narrative stuff, too bad it's always done in the most coombrained way
>>42784041>normal men btw, not chasers, reppers or whatever
>>42784480>Only one talked about nonsexual stuff, like how he'd dress if he was a woman and what he'd act likefunny how that is fembrained and turning into a sex doll is malebrained
>>42781197Everything's a market for them, and the one thing they couldn't do on their own is have a vagina. They'd be able to be authentic, unfairly judgy, insular and supportive of eachother, but those things imply stuff and they hate that. They can't think far enough to actually empathize with women, so they have to boil down the differences to "Society degenerated" and "i don't have pussy to throw at people". Their main complaint is that they aren't allowed to engage with the degeneracy without trying, because they'd have to try to not appear retarded and repugnant to most people
>>42781833Yeah this works too desu>>42781844Im not gay hence why I said I wish I could become bi at least >>42782006I would do it to get sex money and to make my life easier... why is that not normal ?Looking to improve ur situation is not normal ?But fine if I cant be a woman then make me a big dick chad Id happy with that as well.. instead of whatever the fuck I have is now...
>>42785647no anon, incels are not normal. it isnt normal to think your life would improve if you were a woman, normal men dont think they would have a better life if they were women, they only think sex money is easy money and have sexual curiosity, they still prefer being men in every setting including social ones
If you are really gonna type all of that for this "game" I would've also expected you to post the "character lore", because after reading through it and looking at some more stuff from the game/dev, it becomes clear that the dev has an infatuation with genderbender stories/doujinshi rather than having any kind of dysphoria.There's also the question. Is it "based" that the character was practically detransed to the gender/sex they should've been in the first place or is it "transpilled" since there's now two layers of (seemingly involuntary) transitions?
the fantasy side gets NOTHING
>>42785860God why cant this be ME?!
>>42785864>look okay>lose weight>shrink a little>"haha just lose weight">keep losing weight>ring sizes shrink>shoe size drops>maybe 29 inch waist now>down 40 lbs, legs are still fatI'm about to go down another shoe size if I can behave a little longer.
>>42781197i hate women because of their abhorrent behavior and i have no desire to be one. i have a desire for women to no longer behave in an abhorrent manner
>>42781197>It's interesting to see chuds and incels hate on women and trannies so much and cry "degeneracy" when most men are just as sexually charged as them.I mean if you look at a game like love and deepspace women we just aren't allowed to have sexuality or we get mocked for it with how I've seen guys react to stuff in that
>>42781197>immediately assumes most of the audience is chudswhat?
>>42781197trvke!
>>42781197I'm not totally a chud but I just see most women as wanting to use men and extract resources from them either due to seeing us as ugly and retarded or "settle" down in a life of security I know this is completely normal and logical behavior from women, but my experience with relationships and seeing lots of divorces (in childhood) makes me just scared of that eventual breakdown or something else idk what it isMaybe impermanence terrifies me
>>42785736I dont think Im an incel its just logical thinking ?As a woman u can get sex and money and are treated better.My dream is to travel the world and move away but as a guy its lonely depressing and u have to work for all the money u wanna spend on places to stay etc (A LOT)On the other hand as a woman all of these things are not only free but u would be PAID to participate. Its fucking insane how imbalanced things are and then ppl will go out there and protest for womens rights or some shit ? Are u fucking kidding me lol ?This shit is extremely demoralizing to me...
>>42786615if you'd suck dick for money as a woman you are completely capable of sucking dick for money as a guy
>>42786615your "logical" thinking implies women have better lives than men, they dont. women and men have different lives, but not better and not worse when you compare everything nowadays. both feminists and incels are wrong by saying men have better lives and women have better lives respectivelyto think this, you are fembrained (you have more female rather than male interests) or you are a repper>My dream is to travel the world and move away but as a guy its lonely depressing and u have to work for all the money u wanna spend on places to stay etc (A LOT)>On the other hand as a woman all of these things are not only free but u would be PAID to participate.this is a good example, I have male friends that want to do the same thing, the difference? they dont care if they need to work, are ugly, short, etc. in fact they dream about being rich and having high social status and spending their money to have degrading sex with multiple whores. their complainings are that this seems unachievable to some of them and NOT that they need to do this
>>42785842>picrellol thats...unexpected...