How effective is ffs for turning an ugly pre-HRT man into an attractive HRT woman? I swear every before-and-after I see where they look good after surgery were already good looking from the start
>>42783161I can scrape together $100k for surgeries but if I'm always going to an ugly goon then what's the point
>>42782540most ffs is a meme, except maybe nose and jaw. Forehead is especially a meme unless you’re literally Neanderthal tier
>>42782540If you're getting FFS to become attractive then stop calling it FFSThat's just normal beautifying plastic surgeryFeminine does not imply attractive and vice versa
I was a 1/10 male, and now after ffs and hrt, im a 4/10 femaleSo its an improvement but not amazing results. I get abuse in the street for being trans, and because of my mental health conditions it feels bad, but ultimately its worth it.I could never go back
>>42783468Don't be too envious, I'm in my late 30s. I'd give up everything I have if I could get back just 10 years and transition then
>>42783473How were you a 1/10 male and why do you think you get clocked so easily?
>>42783504Just hideous, if i showed a pic you'd understand, deformed face. Just bad skin, didnt look after myself, sunken eyes.My ffs was botched, so i think thats why i get clocked. I'll get surgery again soon once i save up, because getting abuse sucks. I used to like my reflection, before ffs and just using make up, but not now. So just be careful where you go for ffs, fixing a botched face is hell
>>42783527It was botched? How? Have you had any positive (male) attention?
>>42783527>if i showed a pic you'd understandWould you be willing to? I just want to try and understand what chance I have compared to others
>>42783543My nose bridge collapsed during surgery, so the surgeon put an implant in, but its very straight and masucline. It made my forehead more prominent, as the implant is set back too far. So now i have a straight, Roman nose, and a larger forehead, i cry a lotNo, the attention i get from men is overwhelmingly negative. They say nasty things about me as i walk around. I avoid men in all situations possible, i avoid women too, because they're just as nasty (and as violent)
>>42783554No, i wont post a pic here no one should, thats crazy, this place is watched by mumsnet terfs who will repost it on their hate site, and that will cause problemsBut imagine someone ugly, huge broken nose, wrinkles, acne, acne scars, nothing good.
>>42783556That's really awful, I'm sorry. Did you get the surgery done somewhere on the cheap or was the doctor just incompetent?
>>42783579Went to 2pass, got botched. Look more masucline after surgery. Its bad.Going to go to thailand and see if they will fix it, im desperate, i cant live like this. Dont go to 2pass.
>>42783898I went there for crazy good ffs with Bart. Who was your surgeon?
>>42782540I spent like $150k on surgeries, including my primary FFS where I got a bit botched and then on a few subsequent revisions. I feel like I don't pass at all but objectively speaking I'm probably somewhat of a semipassoid since I get misgendered like once or twice per year. I live in a town of like 3500 people though so it's entirely possible I get misgendered because people remember me or something, I don't really know desu. Being a semipassoid sucks.
>>42786067>BartWhich Bart, there are two. One that killed himself a few years back, and one that practices now.I had Van Der Dussen. He operated once and i was super happy. Then we had a follow up consultation and he said we can improve slightly, and stupidly i agreed. Thats when my nose bridge collapsed.The devastation is immense, i cry myself to sleep, i walk with my head down and dont go outside. Idk how i havent killed myself. I want to go to Yanhee Hospital to fix it, since not many surgeons feel comfortable fixing other surgeons mistakes
>>42786505I had suicide Bart. Hope you get your stuff fixed. Complications are terrible especially with unhelpful surgeons. I have issues with my vfs complocations.
>>42786505>>42786554wait did he kill himself? i thought he just died of natural causes, this is news to me
>>42786554>I have issues with my vfs complocations.Fuck. i had revision vfs and its been ok so far (please god). Can you speak ok? Do you pass on the phone? I got femlarPlease god let me just pass again, please i cant take much more of the abuse i get lol please let me have some good news >>42786559Yeah, it was really sad. Its a shame, he was very well loved, theres happy pics of him all over the wall in his clinic, standing next to pretty passoids he created.I wish i was a passoid
>>42786671>he was very well lovedreally? he botched many people including me and my friend>let me just pass againdo you not pass anymore or does it just look bad?
>>42783565>this place is watched by mumsnet terfs who will repost it on their hate siteWait what is this real??
>>42786715Im sorry anon. What happened to you?I remember when i got ffs, i went to the pub, two lads looked at me and sait to each other "yeah thats a woman, shes fit"Then in that exact same pub, in the exact same place, a woman said "thats a man". No good>>42786729Yeah be really careful anon, it used to be a fun board where we could trip, but now its watched by very dangerous peope who wish to cause us harm, and can. Poor Katy Montgomerie
>>42786559Yes, heard so from reliable sources, but later there were doubts.>>42786671There is an opening in my vfsrac web from which air is leaking. This results in hoarse, raspy and weak voice. But thankfully I will get corrective surgery next week (not in Seoul).
>>42786866ah did you go to yeson initially? i actually considered it but just didn't have the time to sort it out, maybe it's for the best. i'm actually in seoul now but mostly just for fun because i think korea is a fun place to stay (not as good as japan but probably a close second for me)>>42786816bart didn't really do type 3 very well or very consistently at all, so he left many people with complications as he mostly just burred down bone and left people with holes and sinus issues. this approach actually worked for some people but most needed an actual type 3 reconstruction>Then in that exact same pub, in the exact same place, a woman said "thats a man". No goodis that in the uk? have you considered that people may have just gotten better at clocking trans people because we've been in the news a lot and stuff?
>>42783448>Forehead is especially a meme unless you’re literally Neanderthal tierfucking braindead
>>42786866>There is an opening in my vfsrac web from which air is leaking. This results in hoarse, raspy and weak voice. But thankfully I will get corrective surgery next week (not in Seoul).I hope it goes well>>42786919>bart didn't really do type 3 very well or very consistently at allI had forehead shaving in IM Clinic, and they basically chiseled the bone all the way done, and now my forhead is bumpy, waste of time, thank god i dont have breathing problems.Nah, i dont pass anymore, i passed before not now. I mean yeah, the UK is full of horrible people but idk, i get it a lot more, it kills my soul each time. I still want thailand to fix me, so i can like what i see in the mirror, if after that i get clocked every single day, then I'll consider my options...