/lesgen/ is the lesbian general for all cis women and trans women (MtF) to discuss lesbian relationships and topics.Be kind & keep discussion on topic.QOTT>What do you enjoy about your culture? Do you take an interest in your gf’s culture?>How long does it take for you to stop having romantic feelings for an ex?tagmap: https://tagmap.io/tag/%2Flesgen%2Fold thread: >>42914780
>>42930493Thanks for making the thread, I was just about to make one too. New discord if anyone wants to join: https://discord.gg/NyP5aN6k
>>42930493>Want to be super cool and loved by Queen Tiffany? Join the Minecraft Server you dummy! It's a cracked server so you don't even need to have a microsoft account to play!wooing-greater.gl.joinmc.link
>>42930553(you)
>>42930562i’m so happy that stuck its rly accurate
>>42930574I wish I could change people's profile pictures on discord too
Hey frens ^_^
>>42930562>>42930574>>42930586DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE! I HATE BOTH OF YOU!
sorry for having a melty and being awful.. everyone here is nice and cool ummm…. gn >>42930586tiffy is the sun…okay good night…
>>42930627gub gub 5 remember server rules are gub gubs say pls and thank you… gn see you in the sun tomorrow when i’m looking straight at it
Wish my gf had a culture.
>>42930669Is your gf a liberal american?
>>42930677She’s a lefty Canuck.
>>42930684So yes. That would explain it then.
sigh
>>42930669I mean... she literally does? are you retarded?
she in racial chatrooms showin feet
>>42930780No you don't get it culture is determined by your skin color!!
i have a culture of yersinia pestis growing in my kitchen cabinet
lago was the biggest racist all along
everyone has a gf and i'm just stuck here unable to even play counter strike with jordan.......i'm a luzer baby.......so why don't you kill me.....
>>42930936I can play a little bit of cs with you but I haven't played in a very long time.
I dont have a gf and im pretty cute and funny, what gives..?
If God finds me a girl with pretty feet I'll build him a church
>>42930994I have pretty feet... I'd force them down your throat...
>>42931004I'd be shocked if you even washed yourself kys
>>42931026You're so rude to your wife... I take daily showers. Why do you love being a projecting bitch?
Also you're lucky I even gave you're ugly skank hon ass a chance, you should get down on your fucking hands and knees and thank me. Thank your Queen for being sooooo nice to you and thank me for marrying a loser such as yourself!
Shut the fuck up tripswine
>>42931065Oink for me piggy! Oink for your Queen!
>>42931069>>42931045officehonmaxxing...
What are your favorite accents for girls to have?My favorite are scottish, german, minnesotan, and african (I can't really tell the difference between different african countries' accents yet).Dorky girls with thick german accents are so fucking cute, they make me wanna scream, I love them so much.
>>42931142Like mother, like daughter…
>>42931152Turkish & French girls sound the most beautiful imo.Kenyan accent is rly nice too actually...I think some Irish accents r nice too but I'm biased... Some of them are horrific also.
What about midwestern accents? I sound like Vyper and Harley Quinn had a baby
>>42931152ITALIAN > (power gap) Scottish > French
whenever i watch american mexican canadian spanish etc etc news its always normal or what i'd expect but peruvian news is just constant death death death shootings violence 24/7 how can you live in a country like
Nobody fucking likes you Charlotte.
Don't worry guys I actually do have a culture. Lago is just being silly.>Canada maritime culture, centered in Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island, is a distinct Atlantic lifestyle defined by a deep-rooted connection to the sea, Scottish/Irish/Acadian heritage, and a slow-paced, close-knit community vibe. It features vibrant music, storytelling, locally sourced seafood, fishing/shipbuilding history, and a generous, humorous spirit.It's a tiny and endangered culture, but it's a culture, and it brings me joy.
>>42930684>>42930669you and bnuy are back together?dont you get tired of the cycle?
>>42931152aussie & nz accents are adorableagreed on german too, super cute
>>42931570Some people enjoy chaos more than stability
Wish I had gf that's ten years younger than me. Im 35
>>42931622It’s fun, maybe if you weren’t such a bitch all the time you’d understand.
>>42931371That's still one more person than likes me
>>42931624Me too. Im 19
>>42931806Nigger
>>42931806Stop lying luz you're 37
somehow kinda better somehow still just as badthis thread truly amazes meatleast queen lago is ok
>>42931759I like you!
>>42932136lesbians dont want to be sexualised by men ty pls leave
>>42931526Gringos get ass blasted easily here. The OP pic is literally white ppl…>>42931570She does try. With her, it’s her depression and lack of self esteem making her want to isolate. Most of the time it’s comfy. We basically never fight in person. Long distance sucks.
>>42932271when will you cuck bnuy with olive again?
>>42932023I love all variations of that comic lol
>>42932297I like that one the bestgood vibes
gf started wearing contacts instead of her big nerd glasses.. :(
>>42932584Well, she can’t wear contacts too much during the day so she should still alternate!
>>42932033Oh by gosh by golly that's great news!I'm Luz btw
>>42932584glasses r so cute, she's depriving u anon take her to court
Did office retardo really block charlotte?
>>42932726Who cares what office rapist does.
lago dates trannies because she’s a fujo>>42932597
>>42932726ye cuz i didnt send her photos of myself
>>42932584i wanted to switch to contacts but touching my eyes freaks me out too much i can't do it it's a reflex thing and i start crying :'(glasses for life i guess
>>42932766Based
>>42932766Lmaoooo she asked me for nudes too
>>42932774she didnt ask me for nudes tbf but she did give me weird vibes.
>>42932766>>42932774>office retard is a creepto the surprise of absolutely nobody
>>42932797She is a freak
Hyper pop night?More like hyper hon night. Amirite?
>>42932768Dw glasses are cuter and better for your eyes.Also, everyone plz make sure to wear sunglasses and caps. My eyes have sun damage and it gives me dry eye…>>42932761big if true
I think im gonna try and get canadian citizenship
>>42932953What drove you to such madness?
>>42932961America dying
How do I clean my room if it's full of stuff? I don't even have space to clean things :(
>>42932995Try organizing them into categorized piles first.
so is the bnuy/lago drama over? are we saved?
>>42933087For this season of dramagen it has been resolved but who knows what the writers will come up with next? Check back next season to find out!
>>42933104the charlotte/tiffany/luz drama arc
>>42933115Am i even part of this arc? Im more lamenting that i dont have what they have
>>42933247Luz tell us more about the office rapist lore
>>42933272No
did office really ask a bunch of people for nudes briefly into knowing them?
>>42933309Yes she did, at least in my case.
>>42933324u are luz? and that sucks a lot im genuinely very dumb
>>42933338No I'm not luz
>>42933338Thats not me my interaction with office was strictly on this board because she decided i was evil one day now shut the fuck up about office my god its been months at this point
>>42933247you will be
>>42933346good advice and sorry for adding to luz slander >>42933343ehhh yeah anyways it all sucks thanks
Hey frens ^_^ hows it going today?
i got snow :))) no snow all winter and my favorite weather at the end of it.. though the cherry blossoms were starting to bloom in my neighborhood.. a sign of being rewarded for not being so so retarded even if it is wrongly timed later then it should be at the detriment of pink trees i like lots
https://youtu.be/pm4CLzFPdew
>>42933661I hope the snow melts
>>42934077it will…. but that is so rudeeeeee also spring is my favorite season because the regrowth but where i am now is evergreen anyway things go to green then back to gray the go to grey to gray then back to green to gray again
>>42934214u dont deserve snow
I want a gf
I want this doll knitting book. Two dolls and make them kiss.
>>42934302that is so rude https://youtu.be/1QHGP7_Jy0Qbut also yeah fair nufd i left her thread… it was a funny post….
>>42934467yeah that looks incredibly kino.. what is the book called?
Are you mine? Are you mine?'Cause I stay here all the timeWatching telly, drinking wine
imagine having a fucking seizure during a wrestling match and the wrestlers just keep wrestling around you and push you out of the way so they can get their shit in
I WISH GIRLSBUT NO
are any of yall in florida :D
i need to retvrn to québec
heheheheweener :3c
finished with my bullshit work and now i can drink beers and hit the pen with impunity!
I have no cultureIm a depressed white liberal american transbian thats addicted to video games and has no creative hobby
>>42935976sameget u a wife like urself and u can play tuoys together :3c
>>42935976Never too late to start! >>42934508Picrel is cover, Japanese book. I am tempted to buy it today… you can order it online from Kinokuniya.
wydag who tried to short oil futures and turned $800 into -$216,000
it's always too late to start over
>>42936025I wouldn't date a girl who didn't have a properly diversified portfolio... I only invest in my pension personally :<
>>42936025I wouldnt let you near children unsupervised desu
>>42936025Should have stuck to Buttcoin caca
hi chat hru???I wish I was like way strong u know? like I can do anything and shoulder all the burdens, and then have time to still do back flips or something fr fr ngl>>42930493>What do you enjoy about your culture? nothing, depends since I think more about my lost culture than the one I live in>Do you take an interest in your gf’s culture?not really an issue atm>How long does it take for you to stop having romantic feelings for an ex?honestly depends, I think my record is about like 5 minutes tbqhsaid person came back a few years later w/ an essay about how perfect I am and how important yadda yadda, and I was like 'nah, I'm good ty'
hi thread :3 thoughts on tarot?
I'm so lonely
>>42936636You wanna be my gf?
my favorite part of captcha is looking at orbs >>42936024waow based i have the membership thing for the kinokuniya here n i love that part of seattle.. i wanna go and look for this book naow lol >>42936636hi hi i wish i was strong toooo it sucks im so mentally frail.. hope you are good fren.. i believe you can do backflips i have faith in this yes
>>42938065iok u should cast a spell thodo ths shiggy diggy :3
No matter how much I want to stop reading /lesgen/ I always come back
>>42938217aw yeh I love that, but I'll be honest, it's all that hypothetical stuff u know???I'd love it, but would I or would u? I always get down on myself and assume the worst or act really insecure and so on... I know I'm not that great... but I also need to be w/ someone that I like...but mebbe if I find out that I like them they don't really like me like that... or mebbe they like me but I can't see them like that iunnolike sometimes when pre-hrt trans or boymoders try to talk to me, I try to be supportive but can't get past thing like if they had no laserso I really wish I was ur gf anon, I really wish I could be, and we could just be happy and do silly things and I could study and make u food and give u a vegan beer, but like ... it was just a dream... it didn't really happen...sorry I'm so silly and stupid ah heh heh teh heh~>>42938369no no, like I wish I could u know, but I can't I'm so weak... but I wish I could be stronger, I have to work harder tbqhI hope ur okay my dearest friend, I miss our chit chats and think of u often, I always pray that the fairies watch over u and help u w/ ur daily challengespls let me know if it's helping
reminder that if you have autism you're a creep
I like collecting monster high dolls
>>42938497you would fall for me if we dated
>>42938587mebbe ngl
I miss you
>>42938705wish any girl felt this way about me
I wish I was loved unconditionally by someone :(
>>42938746Maybe try to be nice to people
>>42938746true but then u have to love them back, but living is always conditional ig
>>42938766Maybe people should be nice to me, everything I do is reciprocal and reactive.>>42938772I have a lot of love to give to someone
u girls oku better be
iwiwag
>>42938805I'm not okay :(
>>42938805I want to cry all the time and I feel terrible :(
>>42938841Then why are you so mean all the time
>>42938856Because people are mean to me in my everyday life
>>42938827u tries being ok tho?'the only thing thing left to do hthimg fluffy touch fluffy tail>>42938841fucking get over it lolever been done touched something a thing something been been a touch touch straight ss shotayarermoooooooweak at the knees theres nothn known to do
looi shuts kndaa fucked rigt?
>>42938746i love you almost unconditionally like a little sistar tifferny… i’m like your older sister who you are embarrassed to be related to black sheep n crashing out generally cringe c:>>42938497your prayer help me a lot.. they make me feel more energized and give me a double charge when i rest at night.. i have been noticing a lot more fairies then just my normal few so this explains a lot i think.. i will make a mental note to pray for you so you can receive a double and bonus fairies as well maybe even the comfiest pillow n warmest blankies mhm mhm
>>42938891Shut up asshole.>>42938908Thank you nona
Offtopic, but anybody know if expired spiro is still safe to take? (expired by like 3 years)
>>42939010i have tbhon butt idk if it loses effectiveness or is safe
>>42938369I go to Kinokuniya multiple times a week. I have a problem. lol There are soo many craft books including doll ones in the Japanese section. You really should check it out!!
>>42938390Yeah, grim.>>42938543Share collection pls!
>>42933087>>42933104
>>42939332ugh need
>>42939332hmmm ty fren i wiillll>>42938543 also i own a monster high doll or two actually tbhon tifferny… you aren’t alone… i may sell though because clashes maybe idk i do like her satisfied my hyper repressed inner retard child feelings. feeds my teletubbie sun but idk owning a collection of one type of figure thing makes me feel a dork… fricks wit me
I wish she would say she was sorry and didn’t mean the words she said. It tarnishes the good times we had. It makes me feel filthy having kissed and fiercely hugged someone like that. I caressed her hair while she lay her head in my lap. How can someone be so cruel and lie and tell you it was one-sided and that you’re disgusting and unlovable?I just want to be HAPPY AND GAY. It has gotten better, at least.
>>42939485this pic is so you
>>42939488Because you were phat and lost your curves. All that was left was a gaslighting psycho.
>>42939501No way, I am incredibly more attractive now. That is not to say I am hot. But I did not realize just how gross I looked back then. People treat me different. Kinder. ;__; She was enamored when she saw me. Like, she stared at me with wide, bright eyes and squeezed me tight, rubbing my back with both arms excitedly for a few minutes when she saw how much I’d changed. Kept giving me puppy eyes when we were alone. Asked me where I went when she’d fall asleep and I’d leave.Then she told me I’m fat and ugly over a week ago and it hurts. That she had to “push” me off her. Lots more hurtful things. I genuinely believed she wanted to change. It was all getting better until it crashed. She asked me before to hold her accountable and I just made it worse by doing so.
>>42939499yupshttps://youtu.be/jh9d5Zlii_8let your memory reduce them to dust
Oh I skipped a part of my dose today so I’m emotional. Need my big pharma gaslighting pills. They need to make one that kills certain memories.
>>42938685can't believe that anon already ditched me lmao>>42938786I'm sure u will find someone that will love u back tiffany>>42938908yeh, the interstice is closer now, springtime is near, flowers will be blooming and fairy coming out to dance at dawn on the periphery of ur visionI shall certainly try to get cozy on the pillow ty ty>>42939332starting new hobbies or picking up old ones again is so nice w/ a new season, like u can just become a whole new u, water colors or embroidery, and especially working thru an activity book or projects or some such
>>42939614umaru fren you are so kino i’m seriosly yr disciple
gn lesfrens >>42939588if i skip taking my pills now i sob a bunch is crimge.. im still getting used to being medercated.. i wish i could od on anti memory pills. tbhon my brains so lucid i’m surprised memories hold in there at all as is.. ready for that to no longer happen and be confused as i am now but with no awareness of prior hope or how things were once not so bad
WHY THE FUCK COULDNT I BE AROUND IN THE FUCKING 90SWHY AM I JUST REALIZING HOW GOOD NO DOUBT IS AFTER ONLY LEARNING ABOUT THEM BECAUSE OF COACHELLA 2 YEARS AGO1995 was goated alanis and no doubt in the same year? holy shit imagine being able to experience that in real time?
i was born...in the...wrong...generation....
>>42940639as someone born in that yearyoure not missing out on much
>>42938065https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM1Z21H4z5o
>>42939748off that viet coffee but trying, gn nona
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH0KWX2a8zYimagine being old enough to experience this when it was nyew
>>42940804sexualism minorsstill nothing other than sexualization of minors the british culture to a fucking T
>>42930493>>What do you enjoy about your culture? Do you take an interest in your gf’s culture?i like new years and getting money and wearing pretty dresses. my last ex was white so not rly>>How long does it take for you to stop having romantic feelings for an ex?awhile, and i never fully get over them ,theyre always there in the back of my mind, i just think of them less. everyonce in awhile theyll pop up and ill get sad about it, the intensity of the sadness also goes down overtime but its still there>>42931152>german accentsthisi want a latina gf again anyone have any tips? ive also never rly had an asian gf before despite also being asian maybe i should do that>>42940729that is also a good part of my culture!!!! im going on a date w a girl to get viet cofee tmr at my fav viet cafe wish me luck,i think i will try to impress her and speak in my chopped vietnamese
>>42940951dam nice gl noni
>>42940977its silly therefore okay to postbut here have this one
I really do not like these new fags
i think i would like a vietnamese girlfriend that would be cool yeah
I miss Pulpgirls threads they were always fun, why did Conejo have to come back?
>>42941038Back to the meat pyramid with you!Only OG lesgeners will get this reference..Also hey everyone ^_^
>>42941043Can you like... not? Also die horrifically Office Hon
>>42941048*sad walks out the room with my gaze on the ground*S-sorry boss...sorry... i didnt mean to offend with my presence boss.. i wont do it again...(peanut reference btw)
>>42941066Now proceed to take a knife and slice horizontally where your big ass Adams Apple is.
>>42941073*shakily holds the knife in my hands* s-sorry boss.. s-sorry boss.. i.i.i... im not very good at using k-k-knives.... i-i dont like pain boss its scary..
>>42941113Now slice your own throat.
>>42941137I-i-i-i cant baws... t-the blades.. they scare me...im so scared boss...
>>42941195Have you even read Killing Stalking?
>>42941301I-i have boss... i read it when i was a teen boss.. back then.. i was even younger then u baws... *still shakily holding the knjfe* im scared boss... im so scared ;_;
>>42941308Did Killing Stalking inspire the dichotomy between you and Harlot?
>>42941313T-tiffany im scared...what am i supposed to do with this knife ;_; i dont wanna die.. i hate blood its so scary... Tiffany boss.... im scared...
>>42941340Go put the knife back then fucking retard!
>>42941352B-b-but u told me to h-hurt myself boss..i dunno what to do anymore boss ;_;
i'm shooting heroin right now
>>42941380Punch yourself in the face or something for being an idiot
>>42941387harlot coded
>>42941440Hi Tiffany, its humming!!I'm spaming the server around here, love youuu!!!!! <3 <<3https://discord.gg/gejUmDBzMG
>>42941586Kill yourself!
hey alexa play black jazz
>>42941603I will eventually, love you too sweetie!!!!
>>42941610Don’t call me sweetie like I’m a fucking child!
Where all the cucks @
>>42941623How do I put a name on 4chan Lily? c:
>>42941886Oh my god, leave you fucking newfag!
>>42941586tifferny tifferny >>42941603gub gubs always say pls and thank yoh… server rules
>>42941986Please shut up, thank you.
>>42941850here :(
>>42942137Cute
Zoomerlily please stop shitting up the gen and the server
how old is tiffany so i know whether to hate her or not
>>42942233Quit calling me that loser>>4294224121
>>42942285>21butter sock it is then
>>42942137I miss my doomed homoerotic friend
>>42942317Shut the fuck up Dan Schneider
>>42942317>>42942285that's from a show called "icarly" by the way, that we watched on tv, i know you don't understand since you watch tiktok and streamers all day
>>42942338I literally grew up watching TV! I watched all of Icarly on cable!
>>42942317wow iCarly in 2026... did anyone ever eat a spaghetti taco they looked fucking disgusting. and they were always making them in the show. was that just the cheapest foodstuff available for shooting or did they actually expect us to think that spaghetti tacos were appetizing.
>>42942392The only thing you grew up with was an ipad
>>42942398I made my mam let me try it once when I was like 8 and even then thought it was nasty lol
>>42942398>>42942412but if it was a spaghetti and raisin sandwich you would love it though right becky
>>42942399I didn’t even own an iPad as a kid, I had a kindle fire that used to glitch when I would play terraria and erase my game progress.
>>42942463>I didn't even own an apple ipad, I owned an amazon ipad! Get it right millennial!!
>>42942490Oh my fucking god, please shut the fuck up.
>>42942685Hey kill yourself ^_^
wydag who was fat and ugly
>>42942706no
>>42942704Hey fren ^__^
>>42942685<3>>42942706of course I love that about girls too
>>42942743are you friends with office turd?
>>42942748well I can't have enemies, so I will always extend a hand so ppl can do better to be nicer and kinder to others tbqhit's kind of like even if nobody in the whole world is my friend, I will be a friend to the whole world
>>42942785would you be friends with hitler?
>>42942785That is incredibly naive imo.
>>42942785Umuru chan... i think u might be suffering from delusions of grandeur and generosity ....its ok i have the same delusions...
>>42942800well he's ded and luckily after that war nobody ever thought like that anymore>>42942804well thinking ppl are enemies and should be squashed isn't exactly discerning either, merely claiming to be such, which u could say is even more naive ngl>>42942812aww that's sweet anon, I don't really do delusions tho tbqh
>>42942833>luckily after that war nobody ever thought like that anymorelol
Hey Office Hon, add me back on discord.
>>42942833would you be friends with jared kushner?
>>42942833if someone raped your friend or your wife, would you still extend a hand to the rapist?
>>42942866Hey fren! ^__^
>>42942847wha aheh>>42942878well do u think I should send him an email saying I'm not going to be his friend? that might get him to stop ngl>>42942892ahh so ur saying just didn't squash enough ppl ig... mebbe just needed to kill some more of the wrong types???I mean, we wouldn't want to be naive, right???it's really just the same old 'pacifism' vs 'kill for peace' debate and 'forgiveness' vs 'retribution' debate, w/ the same old tired characterizations and iunno if u will resolve it, but it would be naive to think it was resolved
>>42942925We are not friends. Add me back on discord now
>>42942934there's a difference between being friends with someone, ignoring them and wanting to kill them. i never said you have to kill anyone. but being friends with someone who raped your friend would definitely be a choice
>>42942946Hey friend ^___^
>>42942949well the naive solution is basically perpetuating systems that allow such things to take place, and even encourage them, and rather than addressing those issues the naive focus is on 'getting rid' of those ppl, killing or otherwise... and like uh how is the track record there simply honestly??? not that great so yeh finding ways to try and foster better paths and extending opportunities to change is not as silly as it may sound imho
>>42942952Add me on discord
>>42942934Would you be friends with Olive and she screamed NIGGER when you are in public together?
>>42942991too cringe!!
>>42942991she already said shed be friends with office so the answer is yes
>>42942996so rape you can forgive but not cringiness?
Wydag who loved animals
>>42943008keep in mind that the neolib solution was also to ostracize ppl, and a lot of those ppl are now coming into power, and taking what they consider to be retributionthat is also part of the parcel that u are suggesting so u could ask 'if u could avoid the current situation would u have avoided the current situation?' and my answer would be 'yeh why not' and u would ask 'even if that meant u were polite to jerks?' and I would probs say 'yeh kind awkward but sounds like a better deal all things considered' just to help u get to the end state of the usual old tried and true debate about these opposing strategies
>>42943035This is veru true! U know they do say that the boy who was shunned from the village eventually comes back to destroy it down.I am unwillingly being turned into the villian by being villianized all the time.. So uhmmEveryone, please be kind to me ^_____^
>>42943073Not until you add me on discord
>>42942977In general I would maybe agree but the question was more specific than that. I don't think victims of rape should forgive their rapists. And I think friends of the victim should focus more on their friend than on the person who harmed their friend. I don't think you can be a good friend to someone who was raped when you are also investing time into trying to rehabilitate their rapist.>>42943035>keep in mind that the neolib solution was also to ostracize pplThe neolib solution is not to ostracize people who have done morally bad things, it is to ostracize people who do not benefit their system. You have murderers, rapists, nazis everywhere at the top of the system. Morality plays basically no role at all as long as it benefits the market. It isn't a coincidence that a lot of nazis were "rehabilitated" and were allowed to become politicians and heads of companies. Maybe killing most of them like the communists did wasn't a perfect solution either but it is certainly better than what the west did.I also disagree that everyone can be rehabilitated. I think if you intervene early enough you can, but at some point it just crosses a line where it is not possible to forgive them. Either way here on 4chan you do not have an environment at all where you can actually do what you are trying to do, just like you can't build some anarchist commune in the middle of a capitalist state.
>>42943130But ur so boring......
I would not be friends with hitler, jared kushner, olive, or my friend's rapist but not because I'm a neoliberal or whatever... I just dont like those guys!!!
>>42943211That's honestly a good reason.
>>42943073kinda but u should also be nicer and kinder to other ppl too even if they're mean to u, cos then other ppl will notice that and be kind to u >>42943147offering ppl an opportunity for a better path does not mean condoning their actions, but the common alternative practiced now hasn't prevented them from those actions either, clearlyto call practices of 'radical forgiveness' and 'radical empathy' when the current status quo attitudes are failing catastrophically is itself quite naiveeven if u want to see it from a strictly solutions oriented point of view u should at least be willing to be adaptive and try other solutions than the ones that aren't working well tbqhangela davis has a very small book about it which also started to changed how I thought about these things, and she's clearly a smarter person than I am nglit was called 'are prisons obsolete?' and I think she really presents some conundrums that warrant quiet and thoughtful consideration I'm not an expert by any means, but I have since tried to look into it deeper and not just take a side, and a lot of it is really emotionally challenging when u ask if u would practice radical forgiveness...but like I said, it would also be naive to think that the current situation is the solution to our problems, or worse that we must simply destroy all enemiesw/o any power I cannot force ppl to stop or change the system, but I can at least extend them the opportunity to change and to be kinder to others iunno I'm not that important tbqhI'm kinda just a really useless stupid idiot and u shouldn't pay me any mind lmao
>>42942833Our thread genius, everyone.
>>42943249yeh I'm kinda stupid ngl
I deserve to be treated like a princess so that i dont become a villian
this gen:
>>42943223umarufren can i consider you my mother in a non weird way but in a way that any amount of your basedness may be passed down to me and learned from u
>>42943175I’m literally not, you had a meltdown because I didn’t watch a movie with you!
>>42943309Another Mensa IQ contribution from Lago.
>>42943309left to right - lago, stacker, jordan, punished umaruchan, tiffany, caca, luz, office
>>42943345I’m a republican?
>>42943223I have read angela davis too. And like I said, ideally society would be structured very differently. The prison system and judiciary and how laws work are extremely flawed and like I said they work more to punish behaviour that threatens the system or deviates from bourgeois morality. Incarcerating someone for years just because they stole something, damaged property, or just because they are poor and homeless is obviously stupid. But I'm not talking about that at all.Do you also practice "radical forgiveness" and "radical empathy" towards Trump and all the other people who are making everyone's life worse? This is something very different from interpersonal conflicts between two people.I'm not at all advocating for continuing the current system. But I think people have an obligation to do better, and if they consistently prove that they can't manage to do better as an adult, then something needs to be done about them. And as for this digital hell, you can't change anyone over the internet, at least not the way you would like to do it. Even if you completely abolish the prison system, social order would still rely on power between people, i.e. the village telling the village idiot not to poison the well for the lulz and doing something about it to get him to stop doing it. And how many times are you going to try to talk nicely to a person who keeps poising the well, until you are forced to lock him up because at some point all of you are going to die from dehydration otherwise? In that case incarceration is not "punishment that will magically make them a better person" like what prison systems advertise, but something to protect the community. From there you can try to rehabilitate the person, but they might never change.
***reminder***i will never tell someone to kill dem selfs
>>42943344You don’t have to be a genius to recognize the fact that tolerating bigots alienates the people who contribute positively to this community. Y’know, the people who need this space more than internet trolls who abuse others.
>>42943380for once I agree with lago completely
>>42943336This is why I didn’t add you or anyone else who tried adding me when I was upset btw. You’re not interested in a genuine friendship with someone. :pWhich is fine! I just didn’t like being lied to and told I wouldn’t be backstabbed or whatever.
>>42943379but you will marry someone who does worse things to others
>>42943404you just know
>>42943368>the village telling the village idiot not to poison the well for the lulz and doing something about it to get him to stop doing it. And how many times are you going to try to talk nicely to a person who keeps poising the well, until you are forced to lock him up because at some point all of you are going to die from dehydration otherwise?trvth nvke
>>42943416where did you find a picture of harlot and office
>>42943404reminder i have ceased communication bc exactly this(multiple times now) and she won’t stop when i ask her to stop being so mean to others… also aside from thisboverall is better for me to not be retarded and make bad decisions… also her words on screen are funny sometime but yeah shouldn’t be attracted to habitual stinkers… my official statement on the matter
>>42943403Me? What the fuck?! I literally wanted nothing but to be your friend are you fucking serious?! Office Retard is nothing but a creep who deserves nothing but the worst. But somehow I’m a snake, Make it make sense
>>42943437we aren’t together!! grrrrrr
>>42943446if even harlot cant fix office no one can
>>42943447Because like everyone else here (and I’m not going to exclude myself), you’ve still been happy to insist she adds you out of boredom.Fool me once, can’t get fooled again. I genuinely believed my friend was changing for the better and I did notice a positive change in her when she used this site less. But she reverted. I’m so tired of hoping for people to change.
>>42943466What the fuck does that have to do with me? That’s such a nothing burger statement.
>>42943461ummm i’m prolly not the best fixer but yeah ummmm yeah idk if that’s the best example for if fixing ppl works bc im litterally an absolute mess but yeah fixing people who don’t want to be fixed or in lesgeneral prolly still bad hm hm
>>42943481That you tolerate bigotry, whether it’s for entertainment or because you naively think people will change while they’re in the midst of their worst behavior.
>>42943505How do I tolerate bigotry? Please fucking enlighten me, you have the floor since you want to project.
new drama
>>42943466Dont worry lago sama! I can fix your friend ^____^
>>42943516You keep replying to her. You asked her to add you even while all the bs in the gen was going on. Not that complicated. You’re free to do so, just telling you that you can’t be surprised when others avoid you and when the gen continues to be ruined by her and others.
>>42943325aww yeh if u like but I don't really have much to give tbqh>>42943345I'm not part of a group tho and the least likely to support current status quo and institutions, I exist on the outside, and certainly not a neolib w/e gave u that idea lmao>>42943368I mean her point isn't just change the institutions but abolish them since they're based on a flawed premisehonestly if I truly practiced radical forgiveness and radical empathy, then that would mean I would have to extend that to ppl like trump yehthe counter argument is whether everything rolls back or not by voting in a dem in the us or in the uk it would be... well don't they already have labor in so oops... u see the problem?ideally it isn't about changing the institutions at all, but changing the affordances for how ppl think, like in an ideal world it wouldn't even occur to them to make an enemy out of us or scapegoat us, let alone enact policies against us how do u get to that point by keeping the status quo? iunnosay that my premise is that some ppl are just inherently bad regardless of the system and sociocultural context, then what is the solution exactly besides getting rid of them somehow? and if they keep popping back up?even by making of ourselves 'the opposition' (the other) to some extent we also reify the systemic issues that contribute to the current status quo and where it leadsit is naive to think there are simple solutions such as 'just do this' or 'just do that' and everything changes, but it's especially naive to squash alternatives like radical empathy in light of the established system spectacularly failing and leading to the point of multiple international humanitarian crises forming before our very eyes the burden is on those that claim harm is necessary to prevent harm to delineate that and properly justify it, not on those that favor forgiveness alternatives, after all they don't do it cos we've been living in such a forgiving society up till now
>>42943538>I'm not part of a group tho and the least likely to support current status quo and institutions, I exist on the outside, and certainly not a neolib w/e gave u that idea lmaoYou're just a crypto centrist
>>42943530Ignoring a troll does fucking nothing, I would know. I want to garner information on her to use against her and drive her out.
kek
>>42943403rug pull moment.. we were lied to at the time we are just beneath our leader.. also since when is telling someone to kill themself over n over not bigotry lmao.. i think what office does is bad and when we are on speaking terms i don’t tolerate it and we have stopped talking multiple times over this
>>42943565that's a really silly take tbqhlike u can find a lot of communities that talk about 'socialism' in the us now, but if u think they're not also upholding the system and are not centrist to a large extent u are kind of being sillyto think that anything I have said, rejecting the status quo whole cloth is just a mischaracterization since it's based on ur own endorsement of it tbqh
>>42943577trvke
>>42943573Great idea tiffany sama! What should we do to gather info on her? >>42943600A lot of cope for a silly lil centrist
>>42943577You're right let's vote Kamala next time. Blue no matter who.
>>42943626I mean u can nae call but it's just projection tbqh
I’m getting real tired of this uppity weeaboo.
>>42943642>uppitythis is a racial remark
Lago the bigot telling you how to think and who to vote for will never not be funny.
>>42943646I’m just going to log off for the day, I can’t do anything.
>>42943577punished uma is retarded she just writes long paragraphs that say nothing like a stoner who thinks they’re a philosopher while high
>>42943651Latinos have always had a lot of crypto fascists. It's nothing new.
>>42943659Hey fren! Whats up ^_^
>>42943505>because you naively think people will change while they’re in the midst of their worst behavior.Been saying this. I wish more people realized this.>>42943538>voting in a dem in the us or in the uk>u see the problem?Yeah I do. I don't advocate for voting harder or anything like that. All the parties are the same.>changing the institutionsI'm also not in favour of reform. I think the entire system needs to be torn down. But incarceration as a concept is not inherently flawed imo. I think it is necessary sometimes.>say that my premise is that some ppl are just inherently bad regardless of the system and sociocultural contextI don't think that's the case though. That wasn't the argument I was trying to make. I think no one is inherently bad, I think the system/context corrupts people. I think it is every person's obligation to resist that corruption and do better. But if they consistently fail to do so and eventually do something horrible, then I don't think they should be forgiven for that and I think in most cases they are too far gone at that point to properly rehabilitate them. I'm still not in favour of the death sentence, but I think they should be confined and rehabilitation attempts should be made until there is a reasonable chance they have truly changed. And if it still happens than they should be allowed to have a nice life away from the rest of society, so they don't hurt people.>it is naive to think there are simple solutions such as 'just do this' or 'just do that' and everything changesIsn't that what you are doing with your radical empathy stuff though? Like I said you can't build an anarchist commune in the middle of capitalism and expect it to do anything. Idk this all feels like a very american "leftist" (lib) thing to think. Social change doesn't happen through individual action. That is what neolibs want you to think.>the burden is on those that claim harm is necessary to prevent harmThat's awfully convenient for your pov.
Do you all think I’m evil or something? Or are we back to thinking I’m just some retarded kid you need to patronize?
>>42943735i don't know what i think about you but i find you intimidating because you give off fire sign energy and you know spanish and are younger than me
>>42943702I keep repeating what my old gay friend said while he hugged me:YOU HAVE TO LET THEM HIT THEIR OWN ROCK BOTTOM. They will either lift themselves out of it when they realize all they’ve lost or they’ll succumb to it.
>>42943735Stop thinking in extremes. I never said you’re evil or remotely so.
Which elemental bending power would i have in the avatar the last airbender series?
>>42943748I’m a Libra/Scorpio, I am BPD personified, I love drama.>>42943761Then stop acting extreme, this isn’t ECW!
>>42943781bending you the fuck over and kicking you out the door bitch
>>42943786>I’m a Libra/Scorpio, I am BPD personifiedyou are talking to a gemini/pisces. *I* am bpd personified. no one can split harder than me.
>>42943735*pats your head*>>42943755Yeah I've also said something like that before. A lot of people don't seek to change as long as they are "comfortable" with how they are acting currently. Comfortable doesn't mean they are doing great and aren't in distress but changing can be even scarier and require more effort than what they are currently doing. Lots of people only go to therapy after they have hit rock bottom.>or they’ll succumb to it.I think that's the only thing I kind of disagree with. I think at that point you can maybe help them get help. But before they hit rock bottom it's usually not so easy.
>>42943807Two faced, you’re dangerous.
>>42943788>bending you the fuck over and kicking you out the door bitchThat sounded hot for a second...sigh..
does everyone here think office is gemini? are geminis the most abusive sign?>>42943702yr and umarufrens convo is over my head… are you both friends still or is it bad?
>>42943702>I don't advocate for voting harder or anything like that. All the parties are the same.then we're in agreement on that>I think the entire system needs to be torn down.and we agree on that too>But incarceration as a concept is not inherently flawed imo. I think it is necessary sometimes.well, that may be the case, but it is on u to explain to me why, and what ur envisioned system would look like, and how it would solve issues of the current 'solution'>That wasn't the argument I was trying to make.correct, I unfairly characterized u as holding the extreme end of supporting the status quo which some others do>I think the system/context corrupts people.again, we agree on that, we simply have some disagreements on potential solutions, but I don't think they ought to be irreconcilable if u can't see the issues of creating divisions, like even in this thread right now, where the issue is to demand loyalty to a particular group even if it doesn't lead to good outcomes then iunno >Isn't that what you are doing with your radical empathy stuff though?not at all, I understand there are persistent issues that are not properly understood, but because of that I don't think anyone can say for certain what the correct path should beradical empathy is a path less often taken, and therefore, is one that ought to be explored and not villainized as having retroactively 'caused' the current situation somehow thru mental gymnastics, when in reality it is the path not taken more often than anything>Social change doesn't happen through individual action. That is what neolibs want you to think.that is not a claim that I have made however, and now u are characterizing me in a way that is incorrectmy position is that there is no currently feasible mechanism to enact the kind of change either of us are talking about on a systemic levelthat does not mean that on a personal level I cannot at least practice it tho
>>42943822moody manipulator>>42943833i think office is a scorpio if i iirc correctly
>>42943833No, she’s a cancer.>>42943847Me? Never…
Ok fine ill answer for myself.. Iiiiii think.. id be a fire bender. Im kinda azula coded tbqh.... but i also really like iroh.. im kinda iroh coded too..Thanks for askingYou're welcomeHaha have a nice day!
>>42943847>office is a scorpiothe INTP-coded megalomania is big scorpio vibes (i say that as a scorpio)
>>42943833nah it's just silly waffling tbqhsome sides say 'ah ur just silly waffling and not real change' but the truth is there is not real good change either way, basically just ppl screaming back and forth 'this was ur fault' when it really wasn't anyone here who did it tbqhall sides are just blowing air w/ no real power, some sides make money off it, and some just write articles some just repeat slogans and do hashtag activism so they can say they at least tried and then say the others are bad and so onthe truth is we're doomed either way and talking hypothetical change is the only game we're invited to play anymore, so might as well still try to be good to each other imhoso yeh it's just kinda silliness all round really <3
>>42943882Yall think im intp?... aren't those types likely to become successful?.. yippiii
>>42943847i almost guessed scorpio as second one.. i don’t really super believe in zodiac stuff but i fall for abrasive geminis a lot idk.. also have a tough time being frens with some water signs the friends who raped me were a scorpio and a cancer and they both kinda fit those like intense manipulator and manipulative crybaby… i befriend a lot of manipulative ppl tbhon bc idk it should be obvious it sucks i just like to assume the best and hope for it im a disease
hehe it’s just as bad to exclude bigots x) stop criticizing us when we engage with themI’m only going to call out bigotry being excluded btweveryone should feel welcome!! <333
is harlot actually retarded?
>>42943930Thank u for finally havin empathy wid me lago! I already feel myself becoming gooder.. this village might yet just be saved ^___^
I'm being brain mogged by a thread clown. I want her to hatefuck me but she wouldn't want to hurt me. Any advice?
>>42943833Having disagreements in ideology is not conflict. But desu I do trust people less if they chose to befriend abusers.>>42943838>what ur envisioned system would look like, and how it would solve issues of the current 'solution'I don't have that much time right now, but maybe later. Also I don't think I have a real solution to anything, I'm just one person and all I can really do is try to analyse the current and past situations.>where the issue is to demand loyalty to a particular group even if it doesn't lead to good outcomesI don't think anyone is demanding loyalty to a particular group, only that something is done to preserve this community. And you are asserting it will not lead to good outcomes, I think you need to elaborate on that. If you admit that you can't change people over 4chan, then what is the outcome of being nice to them? Isn't that only encouraging them to continue their behaviour? Ideally we would have jannies to prevent the worst kind of behaviour, but we don't.>not villainized as having retroactively 'caused' the current situationI'm not sure I said that. I don't think it caused any of this, but also implementing things like that in the current system isn't really doing anything to oppose that system. Especially if it leads to the deterioration of one of the few spaces we have.>there is no currently feasible mechanism to enact the kind of change either of us are talking about on a systemic levelTrue, at least not for an individual.>that does not mean that on a personal level I cannot at least practice it thoPractising something on a personal level has a different effect than practising it as a society though.
Im esfp apparently :>
>>42943952The ethical dilemma of our generation
>>42943930hehe n i turn a blind eye/encourage it/join in when people we have complained about getting abused :3 are getting gang harassed and their nudes posted and repeatedly being told to kill themself :p
>>42943993Please be nice.
>>42944006fair yeah sorry just sucks and i’m bitter honing
Conflict is not abuse
>>42944018Yeah but you also have to understand how social spaces work and that if you do something that most people view as bad you're going to get some hate desu. Not saying everything that was done was good but yeah...
>>42943976well yeh, that's kinda my point, I don't have a good solution either, and I don't think anyone really doeswe ought to at least be honest about that and have empathy for each other, rather than like some do which is push it to unrealistic hypothetical extremes while ignoring the current breakdown tbqhby at least giving ppl the opportunity to change u are creating the possibility for change even if unlikely, which is different than simply encouraging their behavior, and in fact if u strengthen the divisions it's like saying 'ur right I am ur enemy come at be harder next time' to some extent imhoand unfortunately we cannot change society, and thinking that would have also been naive, we do not have institutional power and so we must not delude ourselves into thinking it's about that for us at least
>>42943976ic ic humble intellectual debating is happening.. you aren’t calling her an abuser right? just stating that>>42943901i see i see waffling is good i think and silliness as a political opinion also is fun maybe i think.. sucks we are doomed though
We should have empathy for people whose behavior has become increasingly worse over the years! Even if it leads to the destruction of the niche lesbian community by driving out good members!Even I’m not this retarded.
>>42944050this true too yeah i’m being a baby thank you for reminding me of this genuinely sighs >>42943979im an infp….
>>42944087bigot
>>42944068yeh it's just a lil silliness, I think it's interesting but it doesn't really help... like I know that some do make money off it and organize eventssome are even millionaires and do protest tourism but it doesn't seem to really do much to change the actions of those w/ powerbut I'm always open to ppl changing ig, like even ppl insulting me or calling me names, what else can I do?like how I'll always be there for ppl that need me even after they push ppl away <3>>42944087true, I have famously driven everyone out over the years, I am incorrigible how can I keep getting away w/ it ngl fr fr
>>42944068I wasn't calling kira an abuser lol>>42944066>by at least giving ppl the opportunity to change u are creating the possibility for changeThat is true. But I think people who are being awful on this website have been given the opportunity to change and have refused enough times. So at that point I think it is self-destructive to treat them like the person they might have the potential to be and instead should be treated like the person they currently are.>'ur right I am ur enemy come at be harder next time'My opinion is to ignore and not interact with those people, not encourage them to post more slop.All I want is to have a space where we can exist and support each other, and some people are refusing to contribute to that or are actively working against it. I think those people should not be tolerated here.
>>42944191yeh but even adhering to ur conceived form of justice, can u actually change it???like u would need mod privileges, and there are no rules that strictly apply to a lot of it, so u would have to go rogue and afaik there have been issues w/ rogue mods so...and we have still ended up here, so...I also agree that if ppl really wanted to have some power over the interaction, then the ultimate power that can never be taken away is refusal, but refusal also doesn't mean snide engagement or organized ostracization while haranguing ppl that don't fall in line so iunnoto a large extent I think we agree, but we simply do not favor practicing the same solutionshope u don't hate me tho, cos I think ur quite nice and I should love to invite u to my owsla when the time comes, we shall be glad to have u tbqh
>>42943755god you sound like my parentsall i realised is how little i needed them
>>42944287lol?
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