>>42963363
So you're saying you're glad they hate themselves enough to kill themselves

Assuming this isn't larp
how many other terfs do you know went that route? i don't think i've ever seen anyone get less hateful toward trannies unless they were just totally ignorant, otherwise it's a like a continuous ratcheting up

>>42963390
I'd rather they not die if possible, but what's worse, killing oneself or killing others?

>>42963390
what about this is so hard to believe? she litterly admitted to being a hardcore terf, ideologies like that don't just leave your brain overnight and on some level she still very clearly hates trans people.

>>42963404
My ex girlfriend who I met on terf tumblr doesn't really care too much for trans people but she also considers radfems to be obnoxious and accomplishing nothing of value, which is true, and stopped calling herself one. If you hang out around them long enough you'll either become a RW woman like JK Rowling with an insane hate boner for trans people or deradicalize into a normal person with radfem leanings because of how fucking annoying they are.

>>42963363
fair warning that youre going to get some fairly vile comments here since its 4chan. you'll probably get some trannies that hate you for ever being a terf, some dudes who larp as trannies to intentionally push allies away, and some people that are going to go on some random racist tirade.
regardless of all of that, thanks for having empathy and recognizing what was happening. I went through something similar with a different minority group where I realized that the hate I had made me think and feel some truly horrible things about people that didn't deserve it. id created a caricature of them in my head and pretended like every single one of them fit that mold. it only served to make me into a cruel person and to create direct harm for people that didnt deserve it.
I wish you well

>>42963363
I have a similar story, though I stopped being a TERF a couple of years ago.
A lot of "radfems" are unironically just cruel bullies who use feminism as a means to make their bullying seem righteous. They mostly do it to trans women (which is terrible, obviously), but reading the vile, misogynistic shit that radfems will say about trans men or cis women on lolcow and KF is what truly exposes the intent behind a lot of TERFism. They love to say that trannies harass cis women or whatever but there have been far more hate campaigns spearheaded by TERFs than trannies.

>>42963363
As a former hardcore TERF yourself, how many of them would you estimate have souls?

>>42963363
Literally a tranny just gunned down a whole bunch of exclusively women and children in Canada not even one month ago.

Nice larp, tho

>>42963448
It's crazy because like, a two minute analysis of their behavior and beliefs is all that's needed to recognize that they really are just bullies.

Like, they'll say that trans women are just reinforcing the patriarchy, but all you need to point out is that trans women are perhaps the single group that patriarchal forces seek to eradicate the most.

>>42963363
So if "he" was a few years older you'd still be a hardcore lesbian?

>>42963454
About half. I think it depends on age. If you're like 40 years old and all you think about is how much you hate the transgenders your soul has completely degraded from your body imo.

>>42963472
Being on this board really enlightened me to how the majority of sex pest non passing "trans women" that radfems say are representative of the entire community are the exact same type that most actual trans women complain about too. Empathy truly is important.

>>42963480
I think there's a certain amount of irredeemable cruelty that has to go into seeing a child kill themselves and turning their death into a meme. If you go that far, you are not a human to me. I also can't think of any high profile cases in which an adult transgender woman commits suicide and it became widely mocked by half the internet.

>>42963531
It's just not as funny when they are older :(

>>42963363
Which teenager?

>>42963466
Also the dad in Rhode Island killed house wife and kid. Seems tranny violence is often directed towards women and children.

>>42963592
you've got maybe three, four examples to roll out dear, with dozens of shootings a year by random 'christians' who are posting the same shit. you look foolish

>>42963506
I've never met a trans woman who likes people like Lily Tino so it's just bizarre. Like talking to TERFs makes you realize just how little they actually engage with trans people as anything more than a target.

You can also just ask things like "Okay, so if it's okay to be a feminine man, why do you depict trans women as men in dresses if you're not using the idea of effeminate men as an insult?"

They'll twist themselves into knots trying to explain themselves or be like "oh I don't actually have a problem with them, I've traded fashion advice with femboys!" and then you can just point out that a ton of femboys are on hormones and TERFs look to outlaw those because it's literally just about hatred, not "protecting women's spaces" or anything.

>>42963592
You mean the weirdo right wing roider who looked devoid of estrogen?

Honestly, the only threads linking the MtF shooters is being right wing nutjobs who aren't even on estrogen.

>>42963613
I also hate Christians so I don't care

>>42963466
>>42963592
yeah and that is fucking awful. the main difference is that trannies don't celebrate when other trannies kill people. its genuinely upsetting that it had happened.
for many terfs and a fuckton of psychos online, they celebrate the death of literally any tranny or just try to piss on their grave afterwards by um ackshuallying their gender or ny trying to blame the trans person for being murdered.
it's literally not the same thing, and isn't at all comparable.

>>42963627
bro literally had a neopussy you don't get to disavow him

>>42963363
As penance for your crimes you have to date me, a 30 year old sad pseudo-hikki 4chan tranny

>>42963667
The only actual evidence seems to point towards an orchi, if anything, and dude was a roider so it's not like that did anything. Shooting up exogenous testosterone kinda undoes literally all of the benefits of estrogen.

>>42963627

Except the kid in Canada and the pooner in Nashville

>>42963363
Seriously which kid are we talking about?

>>42963615
Arguably it's still just as wrong to be a straight femboy (who never sets foot in women's spaces) as it is to be a trans person. I don't know. I get the part about women's spaces. An issue most people won't get, that idea that that male figure must always be present, must always intrude, and there's no independence. I see in other areas that's not really what they take issue with though.

>>42963711
>kid in canada
Never touched hrt bro
>pooner from nashwille
Unclear whether xe took test

>>42963711
>pooner
>MtF
What

Also the Canadian kid wasn't on E? Like their reddit history mentioned not being allowed to take HRT while living with family.

Unless you're referring to the right-winger stuff and then all you need to do is look at their Nazi BS.

Larp this doesn’t happen all terfs hate troons more and more forever and then we all die cope larp cope larp cope larp cope larp also nobody on terf tumblr loves each other enough to date so L + ratio + it’s so fucking over larp larp larp

>>42963732
So, if someone says they're "gender critical" and "don't believe in gender" and they have a problem with femboys then they're literally just a hypocrite.

If gender supposedly doesn't exist then there's no reason to be opposed to GNC people. They clearly believe that gender does exist by indicating their disgust for effeminate men.

>>42963679
Would you let me be the seme?

>>42963719
Charlotte Fosgate. Just realized looking up that she lived only two hours away from me, man, that's even more fucked up. Poor kid.

>>42963775
Yeah of course. As long as we take care of each other I don't want to end up in a misery spiral and have to break up again

>>42963757
Going by their yaoi tastes they usually accept effeminate men only in the context of being raped or abused.

>>42963757
Femboys are just annoying. I have no problem with feminine gay men but the ones who self identify as femboys are ill.

>>42963363
>what deradicalized me was seeing people make fun of that teenager's death. It made me sick.
This is normal and how that type of behavior should make you feel. The goal of radicalization and radicalized individuals is to desensitize you to and encourage you to engage in antisocial behavior towards "acceptable targets." That's why these types get incredibly aggressive towards people who are unaccepting of the antisocial behavior, because a single person calling it out can create a wave if social people disengaging from the antisocial thought patterns out of fear of being no longer in the "in group"

>>42963799
Basing ideology off of who you personally find annoying is shallow. Further evidence that TERFism is just vibes-based.

Hating troons is just the 2020s version of hating emo kids. It makes no sense. Theyre quiet and already suicidal and usually dont go outside

>>42963363
i think you're trolling us, but whatever.
glad u deradicalized.

>>42963757
What if I don't believe in gender and don't have a problem with femboys?

>>42963408
killing oneself, obviously. Others might in fact deserve it.

>>42965271
Then you shouldn't have a problem with trans people taking HRT, I hope.

>>42965439
Nope!

How far gone are most TERFs? What even starts hatred of trannies really, other then them being fucking annoying?

>>42965444
So, are you even a TERF? Like, you don't care that trans people take HRT and you're not weird about GNC people, so like, bridging the gap to "hey trans people should probably have legal rights so that they can be safe and not be forcibly outed and harassed" doesn't seem like a stretch.

>>42963531
Oh you're taalking aboutt the bridge girl?
I assumed instantly you were talking about Brianna Ghey

>>42963732
>An issue most people won't get, that idea that that male figure must always be present, must always intrude, and there's no independence
Let me know when you're willing to make that argument about male-only spaces.
Foids have intruded in 100% male only spaces. It's literally illegal to have a retreat that's nude gay men. Foids will sue (and always win) to be "welcomed" there as well.
Example: https://www.advocate.com/law/florida-resort-female-admission
And you want me to give a shit about women's spaces? You're funny.
I hope more troons trample upon women's spaces and your idea actually does turn into reality. Yes, a male figure must always be present, always intrude and zero "independence" should be tolerated for women-only spaces. It's just equality.
Women's spaces must be subjected to the exact same harassment, lawfare and violence that men's spaces have been subjected to BY WOMEN for the last 50+ years.

>>42965608
man hating and group guilt from radical feminism + high school or below understanding of biology

>>42966946
You don’t think radical feminism has some basis of legitimacy? Like even as a tranny I find a lot Dworkin relatable or maybe my experiences with guys are just shit. Wouldn’t say I’m man hating, but definitely don’t trust them.

>>42967000
yeah but it's stopped clock accuracy
marxist theory has some gems too but we don't use it because of the terrible hitrate
it also tends to rely on generalizations and unchosen groups that i find degrading to the individual
if even a single innocent gets painted for an action not their own your model is going in the bin for using statistics instead of data

>>42963363
>I prefer the trannies now because at least they direct their hate towards themselves instead of women or children
Lol

>>42963660
>the main difference is that trannies don't celebrate when other trannies kill people.
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Come on now.

>>42967063
...?
when has this happened like actually, unless youre talking about some fringe thing 99.999% of ppl havent heard about

>>42967031
what do you think you know about marxist hitrate
do you mean ML theory like two step strategy or trotsky permanent revolution

>>42967031
> even a single innocent gets painted for an action not their own your model is going in the bin for using statistics instead of data
Never really thought of it like that.

>>42966893
It's just not the same. Looking at this board it's pretty obvious what the expectation is. It's something unique to people who are perceived as women or just fem. That fundamental lack of independence. Attitudes that apply to cis women, trans women, feminine men, lesbians.

>>42967083
>when has this happened like actually
Every school shooting.
Come here, or scroll tiktok, and you will hear about how the kids deserved it because they MUST have been bullying the trans person.
If they are in a non-Muslim religious school, the hate increases tenfold.

>>42967086
>>42967087
individual identity vs group identity is the difference
between some people getting hanged and watching the crime rate go down
and a lot of people going into camps and not coming out while the rate of everything goes down
don't generalize, be specific

>>42967110
It absolutely is exactly the same and you know it.
>Looking at this board it's pretty obvious
Cut the crap. This isn't about the mongolian basket weaving forum. It's about the real life. Where as a dude there are exactly zero public places that can guarantee me a foid-free experience. Fuck it, not even "male" prison is free of foids.
Spare me with the whining. The only acceptable way forward is bringing back rigid male-only spaces. Since none of you are willing to do that, then I absolutely support troons and anyone (including and especially bad faith actors) destroying every single foid-only space that exists. None of that should be permitted at all.
>>42967000
>You don’t think radical feminism has some basis of legitimacy?
As much as wahhabi islam has some basis of legitimacy. Which is none whatsoever.
Feminism in general should be treated as a national security threat and simply being a feminist should be treated with the legal and social punishments of being a nazi.

>>42963466
trying to weaponize tragedies against innocent people who had nothing to do with them makes you a bad person
>>42967163
there are a few retards who do that about every school shooting
and I actually mean every, including the 99.9% committed by a cis person

>>42965608
For me, it was being subject to sex-based violence and discrimination as a child growing up in a Muslim country. The actual men were too terrifying of a target to direct my misandry against, so it's easy to go for the delusional hons.

>>42967063
The only thing I can think of where this is the case is Charlie Charlie Kirky and even the groypers were making fun of him before they knew the shooter was a chaser so I don't think that's a good example

>>42967063
>>42968115
literally everyone to the left of bernie made fun of kirkys death. hell, even some libs and centrists joined into the fun. pretending that it was only trannies making fun of his death is disingenuous. hell, some old liberal lady tried breaking into nick fuentes house to kill him after the whole your body my choice thing and no one is talking about the inherent violence of the old lady movement

>>42968105
Sorry habibti

>>42963660
most of the time we are kind of just afraid desu. Plenty of people of other types go crazy and kill people too but no one ever cares because its just a thing that happens.

Genuine side note, I am still kind of redneck coded so when someone explained themselves as a feminist to me I just straight up laughed at them for 2 minutes because to me feminist meant woke lamewad and I diden't know TERF existed. Shit genuinely hurt them.

>>42969124
(I wasn't a tranny yet I was still in my tranny bullying chud phase), though now I still laugh at feminists but with more education