Is there a term for something that isn't gender dysphoria but is more like gender apathy? Like I'm not in agony over being male. I could live like this for the next 50 years and still be happy. It's just I wouldn't care about my body whatsoever beyond not being terribly unhealthy, and I'd never enter a romantic relationship on the pretense of being a man/ Idk is this a common experience?
>>43032345you might just have a very mild and manageable form of dysphoria, i wouldn't read too much into it unless the feelings intensify
>>43032345autism
>>43032345Sounds like you're dumbed by dysphoria ):
>>43032345are you confident you're not dissociated from your body? i know people will act like it's a faketrans reddit thing, but it's not impossible that you could be so checked out and hopeless that the thoughts are easier to repress
that's called being cis
>>43032345Yes, we call that "gender dysphoria"
>>43032345that's just gd>I could live like this for the next 50 yearshttps://www.avitale.com/essays-details/?name=the-gender-variant-phenomenon--a-developmental-review-5
>>43032674>are you confident you're not dissociated from your body?I don't think? I am very much in control of my mind and have a strong sense of self, it's just that sense of self has very little connection to who I am physically
>>43032837the downside of not investigating these feelings is that you realize you were wrong about how serious this was and you're even older which means that transitioning is even harder. maybe consider this pretty seriously. i dont think cis "people" would give their gender even a single thought or think life is better/more fitting as the opposite sex
>>43032691>>43032717the duality
>>43032345Just male socialization, lolWe don't "celebrate" being what we are
>>43032345did you ever dislike being male or aspects of masculinity growing up?
>>43033497>>43033541I think maybe I wasn't clear in the op. Let me put it this way, there is little that I particularly like about being male, there is much I dislike, but it's just a dislike not an intense hatred. I look in the mirror, I see shadow, I am upset when I see it, but I can just not look in the mirror and then I'm fine. In simpler terms, I can live with it
>>43033902you don't need to be in agonizing mental pain at all times to have gender dysphoria. If it's something that makes you unhappy, or even if it's not a constant feeling but something that comes and goes, it's still gender dysphoria. Men like being men
>>43033902yeah this is like me except i have big "flare ups" of dysphoria from time to time. most of the time i can just deal with being a guy. i am also very dissociated to tbhon
>>43034288and are you transitioning or planning to?
>>43032345being cismen don't wake up and think "today I'll perform masculinity patriarchal style, through in a bit of Korean style misogyny" no they wake up drink their coffee and grab their secretary's ass
>>43032345Well, OP, I think the big test for dysphoria isn't you know "do you like being a man" or "do you wish you were a woman", because these are so vague that they don't really work as a diagnostic. "I wish I could talk about my feelings without feeling like a faggot," isn't dysphoria, that's just being a man sucking ass. Honestly, the gold standard question I've found is "can you honestly imagine yourself intimately satisfied with a partner in your body as it is, or does the thought of having sex, or being deeply intimate, while being seen as a woman fill you with a joy that the the same experience as a man doesn't?"After this, it's basically pretty undeniable. If your answer is "being a woman honestly wouldn't make a difference," you're probably depressed or defeated. But if the answer is "yes, actually, that would be great," then you've got things to think about.
>>43034441i might soon it all depends on how a few things end up shaking out. definitely the closest i've ever been to trooning. i got very good at repressing the last 3 years to the point where i would say my dysphoria was almost entirely gone but it all came back for no reason overnight. im really embarrassed about the whole being a tranny thing so i may just boymode forever. i would normally try to go back to repressing but after this most recent episode im scared that if i keep repping im gonna end up john50ing and trooning out with a wife and kids and ruin everybody's life
>>43034523>Honestly, the gold standard question I've found is "can you honestly imagine yourself intimately satisfied with a partner in your body as it is,Maybe you really have found the gold standard because this is absolutely where it hit me the hardest. Like I've actively turned away romantic advances for this reason. I used to e-date under the pretense of being pre-transition, but then "pre-transition" lasted for too long that I had to hang that up as well
>>43032722fuck
>>43035952lol i love that this is the reaction every time this study gets posted
>>43032345i feel this a lot i might start unironically identifying as clowngender from psycholonials
>>43035952:(sorry broyou don't gotta do it the way anyone else does but do something about it sooner than later, trust
>>43032345Gender dysphoria
>>43032345I don't dislike my body, I dislike the role and the expectations it forces on me. I don't want to be strong, I don't want to be dominant, I don't want to lead... the list continues. It's simply not compatible with my personality and I can't even fake it to make it. So there is a mismatch and I am punished in various ways for having it. So it's really easy to look at other side, and think that mismatch wouldn't be there if I was female. But "I am not female" is not the problem, the mismatch is the problem.
>>43032345what's your physical health like? as in, are you fat, do you do exercise and eat well, that sort of thing.from your description it does sound like a sort of dysphoria albeit a less intense one, but maybe you'll be able to live with it better when you work on getting fitter
