The self ID definition of woman is obviously bad. A trans woman is a woman only if she can record themselves doing a at least 10 minutes long bikini try on haul video in which they show all angles of themselves for at least 1 minute each. The majority of men assigned male at birth must believe with little to no doubt that this individual trying on these swimsuits is a female assigned female at birth. Double blind study.
A woman is an adult human who lacks y chromosomes in a majority of her cells. Trans women are (all) normal cisgendered male men with internalized sexism.
>>43032828Left one is definitely afab
>>43032846Spoiler alert They both are but right does have chest implants Spoiler alert
>women get paid for putting on bikinis and dancing like idiots>men can count themselves lucky to get paid for digging a ditch or flipping burgers>if a man breathes the wrong way in public he ends up on a sex crime registryWomen are about to essentially lose the right to vote in the US, and you know what. Maybe that's ok. Maybe it's just nature healing.
>>43032861But on OF and sites like it there’s tons of young, thin, pretty white women showing face who will record whatever custom video you want for relatively cheap and they’re still broke and make little money per month. 4chan has a delusional fantasy they’re all rich
>>43032840But this leads to reductio ad absurdums Swyer syndrome," where individuals have a male chromosome pattern (46,XY) but develop female characteristics due to a nonfunctional SRY gene on the Y chromosome. This results in the absence of male reproductive structures despite having male chromosomes.
>>43032921Lol trying to explain to these retards what CAIS or swyers syndrome is never works. I've had multiple people here insist that CAIS individuals are males despite no examples in recorded history of CAIS people being assigned male at birth
>>43032921swyer's syndrome men look male, not femaleyou don't believe in intersex people and think they just look like the opposite sex instead of, ya know, intersex>This results in the absence of male reproductive structures despite having male chromosomes.doesn't give them a uterus or a vagina or allow them to make eggs
>>43032953cais have micropenises and male range skullsyou have literally never read a single actual science article on caisissies
>>43032989>micropenisit's a clit. you call it a micropenis because you want to deny them their woman hood. they can't process testosterone so it never develops into a penis. ontop of the the testes never descend. the scrotum never fuses. they're literally born with a vagina. that's why they're assigned female at birth. it's generally not discovered that they're cais until puberty when they don't get a period.it calls into question the nature vs nurture aspect. do they believe they're women because they were raised as such or do they believe they're women because of a genetic defect.
>>43032979Dude if you google women with awyers syndrome you can see that they look like women ans have breasts and stuff.You're literally claiming that people are a different gender than the gender they're assigned at birth, AND a different gender than what their external genitalia/secondary sex markers indicate.You are literally becoming a tranny to fight trannies
>>43032989Lol you can't cite a single example of a CAIS individual who was assigned female and there is actually only one example I recorded history of a CAIS individual identifying as something other than cis female (she became a theyfab)You have done no research.You have no facts.You're just trying to lie your ass off hoping people won't fact check you. What a fucking chimpanze.
>>43033044*was NOT assigned female
>>43033024men with breasts don't look like women see: woodshop hon
>>43032898>they’re still broke and make little money per monthThis is of course, the vast majority of OF thots as well. Like, not even close. Making more than $200/month on OF puts you in at least the top 90% of all thots on the website.
>>43033057>afabs aren’t afabs and are actually men
>>43033095feminine men are purposefully mis-assigned female status to avoid admitting men can be feminine but still look and act more male than female
>>43032840If you're a man without internalised misandry, then you are either complicit in the abuses of men or have zero exposure to just how vile a significant portion of men are.Why would I want to be associated with people who I've seen in person say things like>I really want to rape someone right now>Oh I used to watch snuff>They should all be lined up and shot (in reference to tranknees)All while they're responsible for 99% of societal rape, violence, etc.No, the obvious answer if you are cursed to be born male and have a shred of decency is to remove yourself as much as possible from these individuals; some people manage that socially, I couldn't, my body fundamentally made me look like one of them. I don't pass, I probably never will, but 12 months on E and people don't look scared of me anymore generally, and I know the more I pursue medical transition, the less I will look masculine or male.To a certain extent, I have become apathetic to the whole gendered component. I think the societal enforcement of gender is stupid anyway, and a large part of why men end up being men.No amount of ywnbaw will stop me from seeking to disconnect myself from cis men and their actions in whatever ways I can
>>43033115we should stop men from being abused by women change starts with a conversation
>>43033057woodshop hon didn't have breasts, he was literally just a man wearing breast forms under his shirt to own da troons
>>43033291It's not men being abused by women in 99% of cases.Unless you mean the reverse case, in which case I literally never said not to do that, but no one has found the answer to that yet and likely won't within my lifetime, ergo I will exclude myself from the equation.
>>43033342boobs are boobs
>>43033364except when they are not
>>43033356most abuse is women abusing men women are allowed to sexually, emotionally, and abuse men mostly without repercussions
>>43033568Yeah, I'll add that to my list alongside where a male coworker claimed that him getting upset at a woman saying something and acting out was her manipulating him into acting out and not his own lack of self-control.The fact is that if these things are reported, they do normally result in repercussions, but even excluding that fact the statistics show women are still significantly less likely to offend than men.You can't MRA me into detrooning.
>>43033744emotional abuse by women is not taken seriously, when males are raped by women it is seen as a joke
>>43033760>>43033568>>430331151 in 4 women in usa has had a abortion Abortion has killed more humans globally then all wars combined in past 100 years Almost all women are not vegan!Women buying meat causes more animal rape artificial insemination and murder https://philarchive.org/rec/MCMAIOhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=brKhhZlUoOc (Only first few minutes of this video are relevant)https://benthams.substack.com/p/the-causal-inefficacy-objection-isAnd the comments and back and forth of this for any objections you may have to the efficacy of individual boycott of real meat which have already been debunked https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateAVegan/comments/1otuhqv/individual_boycott_of_meat_does_matter/
>>43032840whats the point of putting all in parentheses? also we both know there are exceptions. and no this doesn't indicate you know there are a tiny handful of exceptions "all" should just be removed entirely so you don't discount the tiny minority of exceptions
>>43033828>muh abortionAn unborn dependents life is not worth more than the hosts, standard male thought to believe in denying other people bodily autonomy though, yet another reason I will not stop transitioning.>muh veganismAlmost all men are non-vegan as well, that's not gendered, it's societal.>>43033760Basically just repeating yourself and ignoring what was actually said (oh, a man ignoring what the other person is saying? What a shock)
>>43033884In almost all cases she willfully chose to intentionally Force the unborn baby into a state of dependence on her. Like purposely poisoning someone else just for fun even though you know the poison will quickly kill them unless you give them your kidney https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zkH3vrevU9o [Open]Abortion pills which can be easily obtained and ordered online work to to 12 weeksThe earliest case for which I believe the precautionary principle should hold was around 43-45 days. Which comes out to be 6.1-6.4 weeks.The fetal brain begins to develop around 3-5 weeks gestation. So I am okay with abortions prior to that timeframe.It's hard to say what the levels of sentience equate to at each week. But I wouldn't not assume this is a miniscule amount of sentience. Many EEG brain patterns observed in fetal brains as early as 6.1-6.4 weeks ( high voltageslow waves with superimposed fast activity) are comparable to mature birds, mature frogs, mature rabbits and the mature marmot. We can even observe sleep spindles in the fetal brain this early.Does this prove the same degree of sentience? No. Does this give us reason to take the precautionary principle with respect to this degree of sentience? Yes
>>43032840The truth
>>43033922Abortion pills should be able to be obtained over the counter in under 10 minutes. I don't care.I'd kill a bird, frog, rabbit, etc., to protect someone's bodily autonomy in a heartbeat if it were holding their body hostage.You're just now sidetracking about your rapey obsession with controlling other people's bodies to ignore the general picture that men are largely terrible people. All while unironically sending a video containing vegan gains (a 2016 era lolcow) in 2026.You're so detached that this has now become absolutely nothing to do with my original post or the failings of men, but rather a desperate attempt to try and rationalise how you're totally not the rape and murder gender (despite making up 99% of people incarcerated for such offences against actual living people)
>>43032840under your definitions of words, why is “cisgendered” even a word?
>>43032861you mean white women. plenty of brown women out there flipping burgers
>>43034039>FGM surgical kits should be able to be obtained over the counter in under 10 minutes. I don't care.>I'd kill a bird, frog, rabbit, etc., to protect someone's bodily autonomy in a heartbeat if it were holding their body hostage.Their body is holding the innocent animal / unborn human’s life hostage. She choose to force this unborn human / rabbit into a state of dependence on her body. >You're just now sidetracking about your rapey obsession with controlling other people's bodies to ignore the general picture that men are largely terrible people. All while unironically sending a video containing vegan gains (a 2016 era lolcow) in 2026.Ad hominem >You're so detached that this has now become absolutely nothing to do with my original post or the failings of men, but rather a desperate attempt to try and rationalise how you're totally not the rape and murder genderIf women are also responsible for a significant amount of killings and rapes / artificial inseminations of farm animals with their purchases (most consumer spending in the usa is women btw) then no men are not the especially bad rape and murder gender >(despite making up 99% of people incarcerated for such offences against actual living people)What’s an actual living person? Do androids dream of electric sheap? Is a good argument for veganism>rights are only for humansDefine human.If an animal is living a mostly bad life, suffering massively in a factory farm and experiencing little wellbeing then it’s wrong to breed them into existence.If an animal is living a mostly good life, perhaps on a pasture then it’s wrong to cut their mostly good life short by executing them when they’re a healthy teenager.https://www.dominionmovement.com/watch
>>43034837>>43034039https://philosophicalvegan.com/wiki/index.php/NameTheTraitThis dialogue tree has been used by vegans many times in live debates, (feel free to comment on one of their videos, email them, message them on Instagram etc to challenge them to a debate on NTT )https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JiGT6ox0Y-Mhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gJR5vsrkr9Ahttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oQLjgo2TfcMhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrtziO8Ffc4&pp=ygUjRHIgQXZpIGRlYmF0ZSB2ZWdhbiBuYW1lIHRoZSB0cmFpdCA%3DIf someone says it's okay to kill a animal and turn them into a burger but not okay to do that to a human and the reason they give is that animals can't reason but humans can they'd have to bite the bullet and say it's okay to turn severely permanently mentally handicapped humans who can't reason into burgers. Or go vegan. Or name another trait(s)What does it mean to be a person ? To be “human” ?Evolution is obviously true.Did two individuals who were not persons give birth to an individual who was a person ?Did two “non humans” give birth to a human?
>>43034078or "trans woman" for that matter.these sorts of people don't really get how or why we use words, leading to internally contradicting statements like these
>>43034039>(despite making up 99% of people incarcerated for such offences against actual living people)In 1940s Germany what percentage of incarcerated people had blonde hair and blue eyes? Also why does it matter if women are incarcerated less? One could just make the argument that women are more cowardly and choose violence which is just as evil but still legal like buying factory farmed meat and having abortions
>>43034039He’s another abortion debate I agree with which does not involve vegan gains. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0OV30m4gUp4The responsibility argument is very good
>>43033115kinda based ngl
>>43034078because trannies are liarsthere is no being cis, everyone is cis
>>43032828This is a fetish post>>43032840You are an idiot
>>43033568kill yourself asap
>>43032953CAIS literally has ZERO to do with transgenderMight as well bring up diabetes or ingrown toenails
>>43032979Retardhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_gonadal_dysgenesis
>>43033922>The fetal brain begins to develop around 3-5 weeks gestation.The fetus begins to feel pain at 24 weeksThe "brain" you're talking about is comparable to petri dish brain cells trained to play virtual ping pong
>>43033828>muh cell clump
>>43032840>cisgenderedLmao you are using terms what acknowledges our existence. Retard. You now we exist and you are being just a bitch
>>43036144No it isn’t I am only attracted to seeing cis women in bikinis especially if they aren’t allowed to angle fraud
>>43038114>>43038105There’s good evidence and reason to believe 8 week old fetuses have a significant chance of having a significant amount of consciousness , almost all abortions in the usa happen after 7 weeks https://discord.gg/yyt97GH Research in this channel also people happy to debate or explain it with you
>>43033044I know one cais trans man and they (cais trans men) have it really bad as they can never transition with hrt. Them having xy chromosomes don't help with their dysphoria
>>43034916>>43034881>>43034852>>43034837>Ad hominemYeah I mean how else do you reply to a drooling window licker sperging out about his obsession ignoring the original argument entirely desperately hoping someone gives him a shred of validation.Like I'm going to argue with you about veganism? something I don't even object to morally?.>then no men are not the especially bad rape and murder genderThe vast majority of cases involving humans abusing humans are by men; this should have been obvious from the start, but again, you're a window licker.Notice how the only disagreement you can muster with >>43033115is to start sperging out about veganism as if men are not equally, if not more culpible in the abuse of animals, you desperately start trying to argue about how right and moral veganism is like a mega autist when no one had made any moral statements about veganism at all. Meanwhile anywhere but an anonymous taiwanese cartoon forum you would have been laughed out of discussion the minute you started spamming your spank bank of vegan owns the meatoids debate videos with zero relevance.
