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Why is there no prestige show just about young trans life
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>>43035855
You mean like Euphoria season 1, the show that launched Huntress to stardom?
Or do you mean like Euphoria season 2 where they tried to sideline Huntress for the Apatow nepo baby and the show couldn't recover?
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>>43035855
Pose but they are black so you are not interested
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>>43035901
True.
Sorry black people.
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Who's going to fund a prestige show about young trannies now?

Pose which is probably the closest comparison show didn't exactly do amazing numbers even in a more accumulating social climate.
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>>43035896
They should give Euphoria season 1 a second season that show was awesome.
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>>43035912
I've legitimately never heard of that is it good.
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>>43035926
I loved Pose as a young closeted tranny but I rewatched it as an adult recently and it's a 7/10.
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>>43035926
>They should give Euphoria season 1 a second season that show was awesome.
Yeah it's a pity the actors are all ancient now.
>I've legitimately never heard of that is it good.
It's not. It's drag queens speaking ebonics. It impresses gay people and insults and bores trans people.
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>>43035940
There's nothing wrong with that I guess. The problem with TV in general I guess is that everything is made for the generation up, where in high school you watch college shows and in college you watch mid-late 20 something shows so nothing is ever like perfect target audience
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>>43035946
How does it insult trans people....?
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>>43036004
By equating us with drag queens.
How have the other letters not got this memo yet? Trans women are women. Drag queens are clowns. Pretty easy not to confuse the two.
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>>43036021
I think that's like a cultural difference between urban queer culture and contemporary online trans culture
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>>43036021
4chan users trying not to sound racist: I hate negroes and find them extremely gross
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>>43036021
It doesn't do that really? its just about trannies who also do drag, but its made pretty obvious they are just normal women for the most part in the rest of their lives...
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>>43036029
Straight up - possible. I'm Australian. I have no contact with "urban" culture whatsoever and was literally just watching black people be black. That's not entertaining to me, in fact that makes me feel racist. Like "hahaha look at the funny negroids! listen to how they talk! that's now how people talk!"
That's not a good feeling for me.

>>43036038
>its just about trannies who also do drag,
Which basically no trannies actually do. It's not showing trans women, it's showing a gay man's idea of what trans women are.

There's a universe where Euphoria season 1 was the same thing, except Huntress actually stood up for herself and said "no, it's not like that, it's like this," and actually got a writing credit for it. She transitioned in 2013 when it was still GID and so she still had to go to the psych who would diagnose her as a "delusional man". And she put that on the screen.

The only thing pose put on the screen for me was yet another clown show. It belongs right next to Priscilla Queen of the Desert and Ru Pauls Drag Race as "things that people think are trans but aren't trans."
Only this time they were also black.
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>>43036116
Ballroom culture was a thing in the late 80s and it is still a thing today and not only in the US. It just seems to me your idea of tranny culture is too online, middle-class and post trans acceptance, sorry you can't understand different experiences.
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>>43036116
Trans culture has existed continuously in reality separate from your perspective and that's ok. I can understand why it can see seem strange because concentrated queer culture has developed so much differently than the contemporary disparate underground online identities you see on here but that just makes sense and you don't have to bash that culture.
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>>43036116
RPDR has like 40 contestants who came out as trans or were always trans
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>>43036155
Hey listen, gays are welcome to their culture, but I'm not okay with being told that that's me when that's not me. I lived under the impression that drag and trans was the same thing for 30 fucking years, I'm not drag therefore I'm not trans.

I'd like those 30 years back please.

>post trans acceptance
Oh we're POST trans acceptance are we? because here I was thinking access to qualified medical care is still next to fucking impossible for most trans women, and that my rights were being rolled back worldwide, not that I really had any to begin with.

We're post GAY acceptance you fucking fag. You made a show about gay black drag queens and then patted yourself on the back for how inclusive you were. Except I'm not gay, I'm not black, and I am definitely not a drag queen.
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>>43036155
it's still mostly an american thing that was mostly relevant like 40 years ago
it's just not something most trans people today have any real connection to
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>>43036208
You would only come to that conclusion from just talking to terminally online trans ppl. Its very relevant and very popular, especially among zoomers.
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>>43036179
Cool, so and there's 47 million transgender people in the world.
So that's less than one in a million trans women were drag queens on television.
I feel so fucking represented right now, and I am so glad than in 2026 transgender kids are still being told that the "normal" way to be trans is to become a drag clown.

>>43036169
The issue is that "queer culture" doesn't even seem to recognize what trans women actually are.
And if I had a harsher way to say that I would, because I'm really upset that so much of "trans inclusivity" involved drag queen trivia night at a cisgay bar.
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>>43036222
I guess it must be pretty popular where you live. I see trannies outside all the time but I don't think I've ever heard about ballroom culture outside of social media
but I'm not american and not black
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>>43036222
No it isn't. It's just you and your gay friends patting yourselves on the back.
Trans culture IS online. Because outside FUCKING SUCKS FOR US.
You can hide who you are, just train yourself out of the fagcent and you can walk through cishet society without a problem.
I can't do that. Everyone can fucking see I'm trans.

And the only time I've seen that story honestly and powerfully told was Euphoria season 1.
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>>43035855
Do you realise, do you realise something. Representation are one of the main reasons on the sheer amount of LGBT push back from the normies. Plus, the neogender and neo-pronouns created by the theyfabs certainly doesn't help with our reputation. Look, I don't really give a damn on wether the minority group that I'm part of gets represented or not as I just wanna live my life and not get harassed but the overly privileged white theyfabs absolutely ruined our chance on having any of that.
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>>43036239
>but I'm not american and not black
and that's why and that's ok
>>43036249
Urban trans culture had revolutionary militant organizations back in the 60's to protect ourselves, so lame to distance yourself from that. Its never been easy but before the internet they banded together to try to survive lest you die in isolation. Now those in isolation can see the world too and that''s cool, but its all tragic and its all beautiful and its part of the same struggle
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>>43036270
Do you wish you never heard about trans people?
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>>43036283
Yeah I get, we trannies owe you fags literally everything we have. It's not like we've forgotten. In Australia it was the St Kilda transgender sex workers who were sheltered by the gay community and that relationship goes back to the 1920s.

But it's not the 1920s any more.
STOP PRETENDING YOU FUCKING KNOW ME CUNT!
YOU DON'T.
Shut the fuck up and listen!

I. am. not. a. drag. queen.
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>>43036270
Except we don't actually get representation.
We occasionally get exploitation when they trot out the token hon.
But mostly we just get misrepresentation.
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>>43036306
i mean im pretty sure drag queens have tranny tendancies especially back in the day but obviously just being a crossdresser isn't anything more than a hobby these days
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>>43036293
In a way, kind of. As if I can't tell if a person is trans, that implies that they're already a passoid. My take is that one should only come out as trans only when they fully passes but only reveal it people who are the absolute closest to them. But at the same time I do wish that I've learnt about how to get my hands on HRT earlier in life as I mostly got those information from a trans acquaintance of mine.

-HRT Twink
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>>43036317
I don't actually think so. I don't feel any commonality with drag queens.
And I feel like the trans women who became drag queens before they transitioned were doing so because the only form of "trans culture" they'd been exposed to was drag culture.

That's something we should be changing. That's why Euphoria season 1 was so powerful. Jules was OPENLY trans, everyone knew she was trans, but she was otherwise just living as a high school girl the same as the other three characters.

And that's what being trans is actually like. Everyone knows you're trans, and you have to deal with all the problems that come along with that, but you're otherwise just trying to live a normal life. You accept that the rules are different for you, but you're also just trying to get through the day without getting in too much trouble, which is a plan that sometimes works.

It's not a drag queen polycult, it's the everyday fucking grind that brings drama after drama to you because you weren't born like everyone else, and nobody understands why.
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>>43036360
That's a kinda a strange and niche sentiment, don't force that on me I wanna be open.
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>>43036424
No get fucked.
There's no fucking dividing the community, there is just me being honest about who I am and not letting cisgender people tell me who I have to be and how I have to live my life.
Because you're wrong. You propose something that is so fucking unhealthy for me it may as well be suicide, and you do so for the WORST reasons, your own fucking entertainment.

Just let me tell you who I am? Why is that so scary to you?
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Bumping this thread because it has my best autism in it.
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I´d like to imagine a show about a trans woman that took place over many years over her life. One episode is her as a child, one as a tween, one as a teen, one as a young adult. You would see the parallels and the dreams and the loss. Nobody can understand what it feels like to be a trans woman without the banality of waiting for the future, and the unrelenting passage of time.
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>>43035855
three and a half years of being a man in public and having schizo breakdowns in private
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>>43037319
and nobody's represented that
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>>43035855
i would rather swallow a cyanide pill dry than watch a show about a miserable hon like me, or the struggles of a youngshit gigapassoid and how fun my life could've been. i'd rather watch threads, plague dogs and begotten on loop clockwork orange style
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>>43037407
do you only watch happy movies
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>>43037471
no that's not what i meant. it'd just hit way too close to home for comfort.
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>>43037513
oh yeah I feel you
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>>43035855
I hope they don't, I don't want competition.
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>>43037519
i'm admitting i'm retarded but aside from the themes it might tackle, a tragedy is an exercise in empathy and empathy feels good. actual literally-me would break me.
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>>43037547
Have you ever felt that before with movies or tv? I had that experience with mysterious skin, it was like traumatic to watch it.
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>>43035855
I'd be happy with literally no media representation ever again if it meant people would leave me alone. This shit feels like it's not really worth it
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I'd only if it's about a black ftm because I don't think we have a show like that yet
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>>43035855
YOU FUCKS, there is this british coming of age transgender tv series called "What It Feels Like for a Girl" and its based o real life story of Paris Lees, its so good i bindged watched it in one night
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>>43035855
Hope Hunter is more in final season which comes month from now
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>>43035855
That scene where she sucks the old chasers finger gets me vricked up thinking about it.
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>>43037740
I don't have high hopes. No Eric Dane, no drug dealer guy, and none of them pass for 17 any more.
Jacob Elordi looks like he's about to buy a sports car and leave his wife for a younger woman.

But yeah, I'm only in it for Huntress.
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Crazy thread and frankly it’s so annoying that trans people constantly get conflated with drag, my primary experience of drag as a tranny who has been out for 4 years has been people asking me if I like/do/watch drag when I tell them I’m trans. Whoever that poster is that keeps trying to insist that I am being represented by drag is literally insane and they need to stop pushing it as “trans is drag or else ur problematic” bc that shit is weird

>>43037551
Yah I couldn’t finish mysterious skin either, I generally like to feel some kind of emotional provocation when I watch things but it was too much for me.

>>43037313
I’ve had this exact idea for show on the trans experience, I thought it would be interesting to have each episode take place over a day or a week over the years of someone’s early life to express the kind of everyday pains

>>43036362
Yes this is exactly what I appreciated so much about Euphoria and how it showed what it’s like to be trans, it felt like it actually reflected me and my life even though I’m a very different person from Jules as a character
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>>43036362
What you described is why I rly liked the book Nevada, normal life about the drama and difficulties of being trans
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>>43035855
>Why is there no prestige show just about young trans life
Hollywood knows it's very difficult to create a popular horror show. Too niche.
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Sometimes I feel like the only reason people think trans women are all either drag queens or NEET shut in twitter posters is bc that’s the only place they encounter what they see as trans people, which is ofc why representation of normalcy matters aside from the fact that I want to see some stories that I can relate to.
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>>43035855
huh but doesn't chuddie complain that every show is full of trannies now
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>>43038887
Its a time skip. And would expect more hunty since less characters.
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>>43039427
>Its a time skip.
Oh good. That's a relief.
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>>43037736
Aight I'm going to watch this. If it's shit I'm going to lie about you to a complete stranger.
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>>43039294
I wish
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>>43039427
she doesn't pass, and needs ffs
she was cute because she was young and a twinkhon
but now, she just looks like a tranny and just that
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>>43043736
UR DUM
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>>43039427
her facial expression here reminds me of sophie
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>>43037736
Okay it has it's moment.



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