Trans people in Britian lost all legal protections and no one seems to care
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So now, if you go for a wee or use the 'wrong' changing room, you can be arrested for trespassing under the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994Why does no one seem to care about this? On reddit they keep trying to wrangle that the Equality Act still offers protection when it de facto doesn't. No court is going to convict a business for throwing out a trans person
>>43037515Infact the courts often do the opposite.Twice, in a court case involving a trans person, the judge stated the trans person had done nothing wrong, merely use the facility. Twice they then ruled against trans people uaing facilities.Why does no one seem to realise what this means?
>access to lavatories and changing rooms should be based on sexBetter start putting out, trannies
>>43037504But they protect Muslims soo they’re still technically woke
>>43037543Please sir I need to pee, ill blow you while on it
>>43037571i cisheart muslims but i would never ever ever doubt Israel's right to disintegrate elementary schools with orbital lasers
how fucked is Britain's parliamentary system that after gaining a sweeping supermajority, all labour seems to do is concede? if their equivalent in my country pulled that many seats they'd probably abolish democracy and rule through Cultural Revolution style woke cadre gangsters
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>>43037504>protectionsPRIVILEGESyou meant to use the word PRIVILEGES, not PROTECTIONSyou have all the same basic rights and protections that any other cis man hasyou just lost the ability to dip into and take advantage of laws and spaces set aside for members of the female sex whenever you felt like it
>>43037712Get off 4chan Kier and go back to raping my country
>trans women need to fight for other minorities!! We're all together!every other minority as soon as they can:>let's kill all trannies <3
>>43037611Labour is just antitrans though? I don't think they're conceding on the issue...
>>43037728>We are Starmer Kier, we bow to israel.>We concede to tories, we're still riding blair.
I fail to understand the lore behind the big islandFrom an American's perspective, UK was super pro-tranny. Then suddenly, you guys got three new prime ministers, left the EU and all transgenders were relegated to the slums.But the UK government's official policy relative to the US still feels extremely progressive-ish? Only the laws and public opinion changed.It's not even just tranny shit, out of all my friends every single person from the UK is Russian levels of wanting to leave or hang themselves. Do you guys need some freedom? Someone in the family probably works for the MIC, could call in a favor.
>>43037775the only country that could bring freedom to the UK is iran if they nuked whitehall
>>43037775>From an American's perspective, UK was super pro-trannyAs a fellow American... What? They've been known to historically be big tranny haters.
>>43037775>UK was super pro-trannyIt's because a lot of people only see London when they think the UK and see trans people existing there fine, of course a major Americanised city is gonna be livable. Reality is trans healthcare and law always fell behind compared to most other western countries but a few trans-positive politicians in the late 2010s somehow made outsiders forget. Scotland's the worst offender though since SNPs made everyone think Scotland was a trans paradise when in reality it's maybe the worst one to live in out of all UK countries (from stories I've heard).
>>43037880Man, this makes me wish that I could help out and comfort some Scottish tranner with obnoxiously thick Scottish accent.
>>43037712>doesnt even pretend females aren't getting special treatmentTotal foid genocide
>>43037824last ten years>>43037808grim...
>>43037712>female sex>wants priviledges for the potential of making children>doesn't make children
>>43037611it's not 2014 labour is not progressive in any way lmao
cis people don't respect trans people. simple as.
>>43037775Its because they managed to get women to be antitrans. In murica its still only right wing women that are mostly transphobic. But you know its actually over when the feminists turn against you.
>>43037880Something people online are often blind to is that there can be a huge gap between policy and culture. Most of Scotland is full of gnolls getting drunk or strung out to cope with the already quite depressing situation.Almost all of the UK is economically deprived; the police have been caught abusing their power a ridiculous number of times even at very high levels; public institutions are just corruption engines; even the nhs, which is tantamount to the state religion, can barely provide basic care and totally neglects trans people; to top it all off, now they want to get rid of jury trials so judges can arbitrarily ruin your life forever.The UK did have pretty progressive legislation for a while but that was simply used to create a monumental scapegoat. Newspapers are, because this place is culturally backwards, relatively more influential here than abroad and they ran away with it blowing up every megahon they could find.Any time I go abroad I feel like I've left purgatory and am briefly visiting reality where I'm surrounded by people and not some kind of dementors haunting the melancholic limbo I'm condemned to.
>>43038023>last ten yearsthe history is exactly why that country is the way it is "within the last 10 years"... Where did you think this stuff came from?
>>43038139history from the imperial era set up and fully explains this specific arc i might be referring to?not saying you're wrong, just curious
>>43037504>Trans people in Britian lost all legal protectionsEvery single one?Trans people literally have no rights in the UK?
>>43038200yes all of them are my slaves nowneed to make a plantation
>>43038197>history from the imperial era set up and fully explains this specific arc i might be referring to?Anon are you serious or trolling?
>>43037504It's called progress.
>>43037712Work and the ballot station was a male space. We're coming for your bathrooms and other places of candyass privilege.
I've actually started attacking hons in publicI ask them why are they doing it, why even continue if they don't pass so obviously, ask if they dont realize what they are doing is leading to things like this, ruining everything for actual trans peopleit just pisses me off so much
>>43038238i think you forget that they are american. their country is so young and defined by no real continuing culture. history is generally understood very differently by amerifags than by euroids, and well, i guess it varies a lot in asia
The TERFs wonOwari da
>>43038385>their country is so youngAnon forgot there were people here with actual culture before Christopher Columbus
People do not want to share space with trans peopleTrans bathroom will be mechancial closet with a little trough the trans people can go poopoo peepee
>>43037986There's no helping me here and it's only gonna get worse :(
GOOD! Trannies belong in porn and street prostitution after dark. Not among decent people at a business.
>>43037504Im a straight male and I use the womens bathroom at work sometimes because for some retard woke reason the workplace has more female toilets despite the fact that 90% of the people that work there are male.
>>43037504>activist was it one of these ugly abominations who aren't even on hrt
>>43037775It's JK Rowling funding all the law suits. She was funding them before actually. But some tranny caught her on twitter liking transphobic tweets. She made up a lie about how it was a middle aged moment but she knew she was caught. The original forstater was her but once Forstater lost she got angry and chimped out. She's been gradually going senile so she's makes mistakes that exposes herself (like the selfie) but not fast enough.
>>43038461>mcdonalds won
>>43038200>Every single one?>Trans people literally have no rights in the UK?Yes, every single one. Right to privacy, right to family life, freedom from torture etc Thats all gone, and also basic things like using toilets, or support if attacked or raped. Do a few passoids fall through the cracks, maybe, but they record AGAB on police documents, and never ever trust the mental health people
>>43037515>On reddit they keep trying to wrangle that the Equality Act still offers protection when it de facto doesn't.it never did, i don't get why people argue it did anything
>>43037504>no one seems to careThat's because no one cares about the UK. It's over. It's a lost cause. Caliphate any day now.
>>43039764The UK still does a lot of damage on the International scene to harm lgbt people, the UK directly funded anti lgbt laws in Uganda, and also put pressure on the UN to reject aslyum on grounds of LGBT persecution. The UK may be a backwater to live in, but it is still very dedicated to getting lgbt harmed. They getting srs or an orchi in Europe now as a UK citizen
>>43039750>it never did, i don't get why people argue it did anythingIts a bit more complex. Businesses and organisations prior to 2024 had to pay lip service. So lets say your local shop says you cant use a changing room, you'd be able to complain to head office, and failing that, a court of law would rule in your favour provided you had the funds.A lot of organisations discrimianted in the hope you would be too poor to fight them, but court cases did go in favour of trans people on occasion.That is now 100% dead. Organisations are openly discriminating, directly. Thats new. Before it was individual acts of discrimination, now it is company policy to mass exclude. Its a very bad path.I keep saying it, but Britain is doing what happens before the government kills its own population
>>43039822UK's international influence is smaller that Pakistan's.That godforsaken island stopped mattering a decade ago. And that's a good thing.
>>43039891US will be the same soon, inshallah
>>43039986The US is large enough to have much longer inertia.The cultural influence of the US is half of what it was a decade ago. That will go down much faster, yeah.
>>43039891>UK's international influence is smaller that Pakistan's.I specifically mentioned on lgbt issues. LGBT asylum seekers are being turned away from countries the UK helped fund to persecute them.
>>43039856Yeah I get what you mean, but I mean in a practical sense for the average trans person. Practicality of standing up for your rights pre '22 was 0, you'd not be taken seriously and be laughed at behind closed doors ('triggered'). Same with taking cases to court, most trans people wouldn't (and still won't) have the financial nor mental fortitude to do so, assuming no pro-bono.I still can't get over the fact they used Section 35 for the first time in over 300 years just to block self-id in Scotland. Y'know the thing that was offered by THERESA MAY of all fucking people not even 6 years prior.
>>43040026It took decades for the UK's global influence to diminish after decolonisation started too. It will be a while, but if we're lucky, we may live to see a world where Chicago is in the same category as Birmingham
>>43040030>I specifically mentioned on lgbt issuesYes. Even on that what I said is true. Pakistan is more troon friendly than britanistan ever was.>LGBT asylum seekers are being turned away from countries the UK helped fund to persecute themWho cares? One would have to be a cretin to request asylum in the UK.
>>43040098>Who cares?The people facing death as a direct reault of British influence. I get it, i hate the UK too, but stop downplaying their direct funding of policies that lead to death.
>>43037504Are there any countries left in Europe that are fine for trans people and will continue tobe in the near future?
>>43039856>>43040079>I keep saying it, but Britain is doing what happens before the government kills its own populationOh yeah also this and seems like the rest of the world is gearing up for much the same. Interesting that every failed neoliberal hellhole (see: the world) seems eager to pivot in lockstep towards authoritarianism/facism. Same approach, different borders.
>>43040118The incredibly stupid and just outright cruel way liberal societies are choosing to manage their decline is killing my belief in historical materialism. None of the horrible shit going on in the world right now makes any sense
>>43038543Welcome back Epstein!
>>43040114Most of Europe is nowhere near as bad as terf island. Portugal going right wing, remains to be seen which way they go. Sweden not as good as it used to be. But honestly, every single EU member state is preferable to the UK, even Turkey has better rights.Hard to overstate how excluded trans people are from society in the UK
>>43040259They are better for now, but it feels like most of them are setting up the same turn the UK did. I believe it will work in most places, Europeans mostly think about trannies very little and will easily have their opinion swayed
>>43040166>>43040118The people behind anti trans propaganda spent a very long time working on psychological warfare, im talking decades.I read an article which said trans people are a chess piece on someone else's board. We serve multiple purposes. They genuinely hate us, we distract the population, propaganda taps into the dark side of the human soul, it advances fascism, social conservatism advances fiscal conservatism, it sets precedent for rolling back all human rights, they genuinely believe in the Old Testament.People will happily live in absolute poverty if they have a rung to perch on thats above trans people. Remember that Citibank report which said the power of the system rests on the belief that anyone who works hard will participate in our profits, and that this illusion was fading quickly.Now that illusion is shattered, people are recognising they are struggling and its no longer a social embarrassment for the middle classes to complain about prices. So thats where we come in, to cover this monumental wealth transfer
>>43040166Don't forget - Plutocrats live in a different society to us. Theirs is fine. I'm not a very well read person, so Marxist theory idk the ins/outs of lol, so can't comment on that.
TERFs are intellectually correct about tranny ideology and thus the more time given to discuss the issue the more general public opinion will shift toward the TERF mindset. T piggybacked into public consciousness riding the back of LGB rights like a parasite, adopting the same arguments and passing easily into the minds of intersectional allies without much scrutiny. It's telling that one of the main arguments used by trans is to shut down all discussion as fast as possible by playing the suicide card– implying that mere discussion of the intellectual merit of trans idealogy is directly equivalent to killing people. They do this because the ideology cannot hold up to scrutiny. It's long overdue that LGB drop the T, and the UK as a place where honesy frank discussion is valued is an obvious place for this shift to happen first.
>>43040287Terf island unique, history of hating trans people, deeply socially conservative society, far right media grips talking points, last left wing government was in the 1940s, Brits deeply praise conformity and hierachy, culture of anti intellectualism and acceptance of casual violence. EU different, thats why far right are roughshodding it wholesale and not bothering with propaganda, propaganda would be limited. British people embrace anti trans beliefs deeply, Europeans do not. EU superstate recently voted to enshrine trans rights, can financially punish states that dont comply. No coincidence anti trans hate startedjn Britian in 2016, same year as Brexit
>>43040320I guess that's a decent post hoc explanation, but it feels like it's more than that. It feels libidinal, for the people in power and also the cattle following their lead. They're getting something out of it that goes beyond protecting their interests or being misled. It's like wanton sadism made policy
>>43037504So they can use bathrooms, that of their biological sex? What is the issue
>>43037712>banning gay sex doesn't persecute gay people, because straight people are equally barred from having gay sex
>>43037712The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread.
>>43040320>People will happily live in absolute poverty if they have a rung to perch on thats above trans peopleyes this is correctmost people care more about having someone below them in a dominance hierarchy than they do about not having someone above them. they're fine getting tortured as long as they get a chance to be the torturer.
>>43040399>A Trans Identified Male’s access to female bathrooms is gay sexMaybe it is a fetish after allHuh
>>43040372>It's like wanton sadism made policyOld Testament beliefs. They truly believe we are satan incarnate and have a moral duty to harm us. Thats how they sleep at night, they dont see us as human. The Milgram and Stanford experiment are real. Even if we stopped serving their interests, even if the public gained class consciousness, the elite would still hate us. Hitler diverted resources AWAY from the military and towarda the holocaust when Germany began to lose the war, had that not happned, its very likely Germany would've won ww2. (pearl harbour, stalingrad, the failed assassination of Hitler and not invading Britian all lead to germanys downfall)The same would happen to us, if the public were anywhere close to hanging their leaders, they'd immediately begin murdering us, because ultimately thats their pure, naked goal, and they'll spend billions and destroy western civilization as we know it to achieve it.
>>43037504Good trans isnt real anyway it’s a thing fetishistic men made up and some kids got roped into either through grooming or by b at int too online in their formative years abd happening on it by accidentRegardless nobody can be trans or transition it’s just a continuation and normalization if mef and sissy fetishes taking root and too close to real life out of the bed.There is a tiny % of people with serious bidy dysmorphia but we should just give them psychological meds not alter their hormones lolGb once again ahead of the game!
>>43040435i think the fraction that wants us dead is relatively small compared to the fraction that wants to keep us around as socially acceptable targets of abusethe thing that makes nazi germany scary to normies and not just to weird people who actually dislike domination is that it actually tried to exterminate its disfavored groups on a planned, rationalized basis rather than keeping them around as torture-pets forever or sacrificing them in an orgy of spontaneous libidinal violence.
>>43040480why do you people who are clearly not LGBT come to the LGBT board just to act like dribbling morons?.Which psychological meds would you ever give? you'd basically have to perform chemical lobotomies on people but you're all convinced you have wonder drugs that can fix dysphoria that apparently no one aside you knows about.
>>43040435I don't disagree. That's why l don't put as much stock in materialism anymore. I guess bataille had it right and we are part of this eras accursed share to be burned
>>43040434>muh timzzRaped retard alert
>>43040521Dysphoria doesn’t existIt never did abd the dms-5 is wrong on itI’m lgbt too. Btw :)
>>43040320
>>43040541"Homosexuality" doesn't exist
>>43040501>that wants to keep us around as socially acceptable targets of abuseI believe this is where things are ultimately going (back to). Some places like the US and the UK will have massive eruptions of violence against trans people and the rest of the world will absorb enough of the ideas that led there that we'll be fully relegated to the fringes of society again. That's always where we have been, in every society that has allowed tranny equivalents to exists at all
>>43040434>can't comprehend an analogywhy are TERFs so low-IQ?
>>43040521they don't actually believe there's a treatment that would make you "normal", they just want to torture and soulkill you for trying to do something based on your own will instead of society'sit's intended as a deterring punishment but the fake emphasis on "rehabilitation" in criminal justice has led them to equate the two concepts
>>43040573cattle isn't bred for its intellect
>>43040501History holds all the answers. The smaller faction will inevitably radicallisethe larger one, it WILL happen unless they are entirely removed, they were well posioners.Got more to say in a bit
>>43040541>it doesn't exist just uhh thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of people have acted upon it with cases dating back hundreds of yearsAgain, not beating the dribbling moron accusations, if it didn't exist, then people wouldn't transition because of it, so either you can claim every psych etc who has observed it and every person whose had it has been lying for some reason (for what purpose?) about experiencing distress or you can maybe take on board the idea that the consensus and evidence is vastly against you.>>43040580Ofc, I'm just curious if they'll own up to the actual answer instead of half pretending to give a shit to try and get some trans people to suicidally sign up to be tortured by them.
Also the thing that Rowling does that makes it more effective than the anti-trans stuff you see in USA is that its not coming from a place of hatred/bigotry/religion like cletus would do. It's simply the acknowledgement that a person's rights and liberties extend only to the point where they transgress on someone else's. So anyone of either sex who wants to wear certain clothing or adopt certain mannerisms can do so. In a general sense, society should tolerate people's differences as much as possible. But for specific circumstances where sex matters, like same-sex sports or changing areas, there are legitimate reasons for these to exist. It is not hatred of trans people, it is just a protection of the rights of the people that belong to these groups to not have them trampled on.
We need an Israel for trans
>>43040615Lol as if science hasn’t been wrong beforeSame as 1000s who claim to have seen god and the priests who observed them?It’s a wrong assumption that these people feel anything but body dysmorphia something that does existThey aren’t lying they are just confused and enabled by a system created to make people suffer.Besides every trans person I know is just a confused fucking faggot who wants to die for some reason and thinks transitioning will solve all their issues>>43040559Not the point of the conversation but we agree lol
>>43040731>moh science i am smort>cannot distinguish dysMORPHia from dysPHORIA
>>43040759I can it’s you who equate the two lolThe later doesn’t exist anyway
>>43040372again they live in a different society to us, we're not considered human or even worthy of consideration at all really, they look down upon us like masters unto paupers>>43040501demanding our death explicity is rare, but they're indifferent to suchdemanding we detransition, tantamount to death, however, is commonlanguage the US is using re: 'appreciate your birth sex' is a scary precedent, torture could be institutionalizing and detransitioning
>>43040789>we're not considered human or even worthy of consideration at all really, they look down upon us like masters unto paupers Yeah I agree. So what do we do about it?
>>43040789>demanding our death explicity is rare, but they're indifferent to suchyes, my point is that these are in fact quite different mental states that result in quite different policyit's very easy for me to imagine a USA or UK where the trans death rate is 10x today because of institutional abuse, greater public awareness of de facto impunity for perpetrators of crimes against us, etc. it's hard for me to imagine the USA or UK doing the nazi thing of trying to maximize trans deaths through a campaign of industrial extermination. i don't actually think this is necessarily better than planned extermination. one way or another something like that will eventually end, and it's not actually possible to exterminate trans people that way, but societies can keep pariah groups around for millennia while torturing them.i mainly make this distinction because i was originally replying to >>43040435's point about the holocaust intensifying as germany was losing the war, because the nazis actually wanted to get rid of all these people even at the cost of the end of their regime. that is a very unusual situation and that's not the state we're in in the US or UK right now. i think our ruling classes will choose self-preservation over maximizing our deaths if it comes to that.
>>43040778>if i say something doesnt exist, it doesnt, okay?? You have the thing you don't even fit the definition for because I SAID SO WAAAseethe harder buddy
>>43040910>the trans death rate is 10x todayWhat do you base that on? Only number I was able to find for all cause mortality was 1.5-3x
>>43040674that's general british culture, we like to smuggle prejudice under different pretenses with enough plausible deniability to make anyone go insane trying to unwind such insane gaslighting, which completely goes over the average prole's head anyways>>43040893i dunno, i'm as lost as anyone elsenetworking and organizing is the only answer i suppose, what that looks like is something to be discussed elsewhere
>>43040911What definition the one you made up? OkW/eIm not the one eternally hating myself for nothing.
>>43040962nona meant it hypothetically>it's very easy for me to imagine a USA or UK where the trans death rate is 10x today
>>43040962i didn't mean to say that the trans death rate was currently 10x the general population, i meant to say that i can imagine a hypothetical future in which it is 10x what it is now because all the current trends get much worsesorry for the miscommunication
why are trannies being giving Ls back to back?altho by this logic is someone has done srs...
>>43040992Ah got it, I'm getting too drunk to be fully literate. I think it's very plausible if we assume it's at 3x currently. Wouldn't be surprised if it was actually close to 10x during the 80s
>>43040910IMO the Holocaust was unusual more due to the wartime circumstances that allowed for both the extent and level of violence to balloon to insane proportions, but the actual process that enabled it was utterly banal. It was all just low-level bureaucrats competing with each other in order to impress their superiors (who in turn were competing with each other in order to impress their superiors) and what impressing your superiors looked like was dealing with the 'Jewish problem'.I'd argue there's a much cruder, much more incompetent version of this process in place already, in that trans people are viewed by a very large percentage of people, including those in power, as an inherent problem for society that needs to be dealt with, and transphobic pundits and politicians are constantly trying to out-transphobe each other because that's the way they maintain their support. We're just lucky there isn't some truly centralised figure or cadre in the way there was for the Nazis, and that we're not in such a level of crisis overall.
>>43041079>It was all just low-level bureaucrats competing with each other in order to impress their superiors (who in turn were competing with each other in order to impress their superiors) and what impressing your superiors looked like was dealing with the 'Jewish problem'. Proof that KPIs are a fundamentally evil concept. Also incredible yet straightforward way of thinking about it, never occurred to me somehow
>>43041079>and what impressing your superiors looked like was dealing with the 'Jewish problem'.germany's exterminationist approach wasn't limited to the jews and started early on, look at aktion t4. yes, at a bureaucratic level all behavior reduces to "predict what your superior will reward and then do it", but the fact that "systematically execute all of these people" became the winning move in that game is unusual, a consequence of unusual characteristics of nazi ideology not shared by the people we're up against today (amusingly, the one right-wing regime today that is relevantly similar is israel).
>>43040970>anything i dont like is made up
>>43037504>and no one seems to careI mean what can we do?
>>43040434It should be illegal to be that retarded. And by that I mean you should be found right now and put in prison where you belong, subhuman
>>43041365No just this specific thing
>>43040543What of the most important quotes of all time >>43040563>Some places like the US and the UK will have massive eruptions of violence against trans people and the rest of the world will absorb enough of the ideas that led there that we'll be fully relegated to the fringes of society againIts already defacto legal to attack trans people in the UK and USA. The rest of the world needs to reject anti trans beliefs, lest they end up hellholes too >>43040501As i was saying, if the majority want to keep us as torture pets and the minority wish to kill us, the minority will win, they have to. Humans need a crescendo, a culmination, the minority will radicalise the majority as they demand more extremism, we see it already happening, if you had told me in 2019 that it would be illegal to have a wee, i would not believe you, but its happened. Its now illegal to have sex, again i would never have believed it. Either the rhetoric against us escalates or it diminishes, it cant be sustained at an even keel, otherwise it exposes the circus for what it is. The French Revolution, the Red Terror, McCarthyism, all of them result in escalation
>>43040789>demanding our death explicity is rare, but they're indifferent to such>demanding we detransition, tantamount to death, however, is common>language the US is using re: 'appreciate your birth sex' is a scary precedent, torture could be institutionalizing and detransitioningThis is the difference between statement and intent. The USA introduced a new policy of forced detransition in prisons, thats what the concentration camps are for. It will be mass eradication, if they are not stopped. The precursor to technofuedalism
>>43040910>>43041295Nazi germany holds the answers. >Both trans men and trans women were targeted under renewed enforcement of Paragraphs 175 and 183, and their transvestite passes were revoked or ignored. Books and texts relating to transgender experiences or medicine were destroyed as "un-German".They are taking away our documents. They have banned transgender research in universities
>>43041178Yeah it's eye-opening when you read about this stuff. It makes you understand how utterly average people can become complicit in the worst atrocities imaginable.>>43041295My point is that it escalated not just because of extreme Nazi ideology, but because bureaucratic competitiveness combined with the normalisation of violence during wartime incentivised extreme actions. Aktion T4 was actually controversial initially because this process of escalation hadn't yet occured.If you're saying the idea of 'Jews are an intrinsic problem for society which we need to fix' is extremely rare then we are in an extremely rare situation because exterminationist beliefs towards trans people are common in the Anglosphere, for example in the UK 35% think being trans should be illegal.
>>43041568>In Nazi Germany, transgender people were prosecuted, barred from public life, forcibly detransitioned, and imprisoned and killed in concentration campsWe are being barred from public life right now. The only hrt offered by NHS authorities is "birth sex" hormones. They are passing new laws, or using existing laws to criminalise our existence
Nazi research into curing transness produced the first hormone implants, to fix us with testosterone. Modern research will likely involve the first human applications of ontogenetics, using viral vectors to attach opsins to neurons and rewire our brains with light pulses. Exciting stuff!
>>43041585>the Nazi government relied heavily on reporting by private citizens (often neighbors) to persecute transgender people. A widespread belief in Germany at this time held that transgender people were inherently deceitful, as they lived their lives "in disguise", which motivated some Germans to denounce them to the Nazi government.[86] During the First World War, this belief was so ubiquitous that transgender organizations urged members to wear clothes associated with their birth sex for the sake of their personal safety.[87] However, many Germans were simply motivated to denounce queer and transgender people due to their personal belief in Nazi ideology and desire to make the idealized Nazi state a reality.Normies believe us to be inherently deceptive, thats why they spent 10 years propagandanising against us. Now normie beliefs mirror nazi beliefs, so when atrocities are committed against us we are seen as deserving of punishment
>>430415982030 year of the ultrasonic lobotomy
>>43041619We know that those in charge studied nazi germany intently.Joseph Goebbels: jewish people wanted this war and now they have it Matt Walsh : trans people wanted this war and now they have it
>>43041632https://neuroscientificallychallenged.com/posts/optogenetics-memories-mind-controlWe are going to be the first to see entirely new, horrifying colors!
>>43040731>repeating the same claim made already>b-but muh science is wrongExcept we have actual evidence of literal neurological differences observed in trans people.I don't have dysmorphia, I can perceive my body completely accurately, and that accurate perception is distressing because I undeniably look like a man.Again still no answer as to what magic wondercure medication you'd provide alternatively.Inb4>just go work out broTried it already, didn't work>just be more masculine broTried it already, didn't work>just do therapyTried it already, didn't workTransitioning won't solve my issues, but it will hopefully reduce my dysphoria (that thing you deny exists).I'm practically begging for an answer that isn't transitioning because why would I make my job/career prospects infinitely worse, make it harder to get housing, get treated worse by literally everyone in society if I didn't have a good reason to?.But you don't have any answers, you just have blind "nuhuh" and false claims of giving a shit.
>>43041668i wish to see and experience the go compare advert in full 5d psychosisbut yeah i dunno
>>43041832I am genuinely scared of this. It's the most plausible way for an attempt to "cure" us to go if things keep getting worse. All established means have already been shown to be ineffective, and developed, safe human optogenetics are probably a prerequisite for viable brain computer interfaces, which we all know elon and others like him are obsessed with. There is pretext, incentive and a vulnerable group to test on all right there, and the early work certainly won't be pretty.Sorry for off topic dooming
>>43041736Take anti-psychotics
British garbage has made its way into my country with British migrants coming in and holding using “evidence” of the uk’s raped mindset as a form of legitimacy. the entire country of the UK just needs to be sent to the gallows, every British orc to be hung till death.
>>43041863i've no clue what they plan to do beyond forcibly detransitioning us, how that plays out/looks is entirely contextual and arbitrary, as is whether it even happens in the first placethe only thing we can do is prepare and resist if the time comes, connect and form nationwide support networks, expand domestic homebrewing and diversify supply chains for such, idk>Sorry for off topic doomingnah its cool, not like there's tons to be optimistic about nor tons to discuss otherwise
>>43038687>mistakes that exposes herself (like the selfie) but not fast enoughWhat selfie?
>>43042034im guessing they mean the moldy walls one
>>43042031I agree, getting local breweries that don't expose themselves online set up will be vital to deal with what's coming. We are probably headed for a major economic collapse and that will accelerate and intensify everything. The path is getting narrower, I hope all of us make it through to the other side
>>43041295>>43040910actually i want to retract my statements about the US here. this mindset is present in the US, and does have influence in the trump admin, i knew that and just didn't make the connection to trans policy. DOGE's cuts to USAID were done in a way that was optimized for maximizing african deaths, the future of PEPFAR was left intentionally unclear to prevent private charity from filling the gap in time. that approach could easily expand to domestic populations including trans people.i think the pathway is less obvious in the UK but since they often follow america's lead it could happen.
>>43040320>social conservatism advances fiscal conservatismI wish that were true, lol.alas, it's not and you're just a schizo retard
>>43040703I've been half joking for about a year that there will be a femboy independence war.Thing is that if we win, I'm skeptical of allowing trannies in given how often trannies belittle us.t. military trained hrt femboy
>>43042767I don't know if you appreciate this way of thinking, but I think of anyone who transitions medically as transsexual. I don't care if someone calls themselves non-binary or a femboy or a butch on testosterone. If they transition medically we share the same struggle and I want to build a nuclear armed neostate in de-iced antarctica with them
>>43042799This definition of being trans cuts straight through the bullshit, based as hell
>>43042799>I think of anyone who transitions medically as transsexualThis is an objective definition.Trouble is that in practice I get (and gotten over the last decade) more shit from trannies and theyfabs than from most of everyone else.Even the chuds are fine with me as a weirdo estrogenized faggot while the trannies insist I'm a repper or some shit because I don't fly the pink flag and don't nag people to call me nona.Last summer I went with my bf to some queer event and got flak from a tranny. First passive aggressively ("Oh, that's interesting, didn't know straight people are interested in this") and then for saying that I'm a fag ("anon, what do you mean you're a fag? that's insulting")I'm tired, boss. I just want to be left alone to shoot my girljuice in peace and enjoy life with my bf without having to perform for others.>nuclear armedkinda expensive. there's simply not enough of us to do that (don't get me started on tranny neets). But we could pull a Liberland or a south sudan if we're dedicated enough :)
>>43041982Whats happened, brits advocating for the same policies they fled from?
>>43042477Austerity happened, we lived through it you fucking retard
>>43043069>Last summer I went with my bf to some queer eventSwim in mud, get muddy
>>43043177Oh noooo. The gibs were slightly slowed down.That's not fiscal conservatism you fucking useless mouth breather.Fiscal conservatism means abolishing the NHS because it's a fucking blackhole that actively harms people and costs more than you can afford. Fiscal conservatism means returning to the basics: military, courts, police, intelligence, foreign affairs and mayyyyybe some infrastructure. That's it. Everything else - including and especially welfare and nhs - gets cut 100%.just because you call it "austerity" doesn't make it true. you didn't live through austerity. you lived through a marginal slowing down of the growth rate of the Leviathan.
>>43043190>Swim in mud, get muddyFine. But then don't be surprised when I reply the same when life gets tougher.
>>43043069Yeah sounds like you were hanging around a bunch of performative types. I can't stand them either. I think that will decrease when access to healthcare and actually being visibly trans get harder, people will recognise that what really delineates us from cis people is what we do to our bodies, not what we call ourselves. But I get why you'd be weary of trannies with your experiences
Has anyone ever met an IRL TERF? I went into a charity shop in a posh part of London and overheard some middle-aged white woman ranting to the staff about "trannies forcing themselves on us" She never noticed me until I spoke at which point she gave me a surprised look and walked off. I also used to get shit from roadmen before started passing but they weren't TERFs just niggers.
>>43037515Tresspassing isn't usually a crime in the UK, so you can still go wherever you want and while staff could ask you to leave then it's not actually a criminal matter that can have any real consequences. Tresspass as a crime under that act requires physical 'interference', i.e. damage or unwanted change to the property itself. If a door is unlocked and you go in and don't damage anything then that is almost always legal for you to do.
>>43043229350,000 disabled people died.You are evil. Dont reply
>>43043245You're GNC, you'll be in the same camp as me
>>43043360Yes, i worked with many in various public sector and private sector roles.And yes, they're quite horrid irl, but also cowards
>>43044619Tresspassing for cis people is a civil matter, agreed.But this is terf island, and this is a country where the Home Secretary ordered an innocent trans woman into prison on her whim.Also, being banned from local places is part of our exclusion from society. The fact that staff could even ask this shows just how extreme things are getting
>>43044723No, I won't.You seem to be forgetting that the world is a big place. I don't live in an angloid country (thank fuck) and these days even Pakistan likes femboys and trannies.I'll be fine. You should broaden your horizons. The world is not one giant USA and most definitely isn't one giant britbongistan.Or, you could keep on dooming and doomscrolling waiting for a happening. I'll be busy enjoying the good weather tho.
>>43045070If moving was that easy, i would move. Thanks for compassion though
>>43037504Women's restrooms are nasty anyway. Who tf cares
>>43043229>military, courts, police, intelligence, foreign affairs and mayyyyybe some infrastructure>the basicsMost cucked niggercountry in existence... oh wait it's just amerimuttry lol
>>43037515>people being retarded on trukThis is supposed to be something new? That place is such a deranged hugbox that when that one tranny lawyer posted realistic descriptions of judgments in tranny cases on there he got accused of being a doomer troll.
>>43037504Current NHS reports are planning to ban ALL hrt usage, even for adults. Being trans will literally just be crossdressing. Not been finalised yet but HRT will probably be illegal before the end of the year.
>>43047048Its shocking how much they bury their heads in the sand. Autistic wrangling of legalese doesnt apply when some horrible thug security drags you out the pub
>>43047196>Not been finalised yet but HRT will probably be illegal before the end of the year.Im pretty sure you said it would be banned in a couple of weeks... Yeah Levy Report was pretty disastrous, forced outing constantly. They took down the DIY site and the terfs cackled, how can they not be ashamed of being so evil
>>43047317Is the pub your private property? No? Then what makes you think you're entitled to be there against the owners explicit wishes?
>>43040543an actually good quote that isn't wannabe esoteric nonsense with borderline illiterate prose, wild
Who actually gives a fuck about bathroomsIf you pass shut up and take a shitIf you’re ugly take a shit with the boysGoddamn, what a retarded hill to die on
>>43047373I would explain to you the intersection between legality and company policy, but you're a fucking idiot and you wouldn't understand. Do not reply.
>>43040114No one ever mentions Belgium. Trans healthcare is decent compared to other countries (though if you're looking to transition on public healthcare good luck with the half a decade long waitlist). Trans legislation here is actually very good and the political discussion around trannies here is far from anything like in the UK, and will probably stay that way for a while because people here are too concerned about rising prices and taxes. Just don't go out in Brussels as a hon and you'll do fine here. t. Belgian midshit tranny who was early enough to troon on public healthcare
>>43047492Antwerp is my fav city in all of Europe
>>43047492I have family in Belgium and I think about it maybe once per year. It's not a real country
>>43047523love Antwerp. it's where I met my Portuguese gf for the first time>>43047525Which is exactly why it's a good place to stay under the radar for troonies like me.
>>43047492>>43047525I like the Farage joke (Belgium is pretty much a non-country) like everyone else, but compared to terf island, Belgium is a real place where one can live.
>>43047404>Who actually gives a fuck about bathroomsplutocratslook, if im your colleague and i don't like you, i can make you lose your job by claiming you used my toilets and made me feel unsafe, pass or not, regardless of evidence
>>43037611They only got into power in the first place by removing every prog and leftist in the party and swearing to go full Tory but competent. By doing that, they got one-third of the vote.The core issue with Britain isn't the politicians or the parties, it's that the actual British people doing the voting are conservatives, you should think of them like Italians or something, they'd vote for a literal mobster if he promised to electrocute trannies and immigrants.
>>43037775All this stuff will be happening now for one of two reasons:1. distractions, because the government have been doing so many unpopular things (from mass online censorship, to eroding people's rights to a jury trial)2. pandering to the Muslim voteAs much as everyone wants to think it's JK Rowling and "ze Nazis" coming over the hill, it probably isn't. The Labour party doesn't care what JK Rowling thinks.
>>43049460>The Labour party doesn't care what JK Rowling thinksFactually untrue
>>43049460https://medium.com/@notCursedE/uk-labours-rachel-reeves-has-agreed-to-meet-with-jk-rowling-as-the-author-attacks-labour-bbc08766a965?ysclid=mn6deleb976773093
