>>43044400
at one point i started touching the stubble on his cheek and kissed him, and he started feeling me and making out
my chest was so warm from the alcohol and him feeling me up and idk, i got up and walked over to his bed
i started feeling it and had a moment of doubt but he walked up behind me and touched my hand, then leaned into my neck and started kissing me
i spun around and kissed him and he softly pressed me down onto the bed with his hand on my chest
i crawled back towards the pillows and he followed me, sliding between my legs
we were just kissing for a while until he pulled his lips from mine and moved back
he pulled me down the bed by my thighs so i was lying down on my back, then mounted my hips so i was pinned
i almost started feeling dizzy as he ran his hands up my torso and started groping me through my shirt, then he leaned forward and put a hand around my neck and started kissing me roughly
his fingers were pressing into my throat and i could feel my own pulse against his hand while his tongue was sliding into my mouth
i gave tongue back and moaned and he pinched my nipple so hard it hurt
my heart was beating out of my chest at this point and i was getting scared but he stopped and started caressing me softly
i was in the crook of his shoulder and neck and he asked me if i wanted it
he smelled so good and his bodyweight on me felt so nice that i told him yes and then he pulled himself up
he slid his hands under my shirt and pulled it up above my breasts with his thumbs

>>43044430
i covered my face with my hands and felt so naked
i only have small round a cups so i don't wear bras often so i was immediately exposed
he said cute in a teasing way and started pressing down on one and rubbing it in circles
it didn't feel like much but then he caught my nipple between his fingers and started pulling up, tweaking it and squeezing
he dragged his hands down my body and started rubbing my stomach and dragging his nails over the skin
it made me recoil at the hips and he snickered at me
i felt like such a loser and looked at him through the cracks of my fingers and he was smiling at me like he was enjoying my reactions
i told him to shut up jokingly and then he started touching my waistband

my face shrunk into a worried look but he just started looking more resolved as he unbuttoned my jeans and peeled the zipper down
i closed my eyes and ripped them down to the halfway point of my thighs, tugging at my underwear
he places a hand on my hip, running his finger over the skin that just got exposed and sucks his teeth
i feel like a freak for getting hard at it but it made me feel pathetic
he slides his thumbs underneath my underwear and hooks them before pulling them down to my jeans
i feel my own cold pre leaking through the hair now and my face felt like its on fire
then he put his hands on my hips and told me to flip over which i did because it felt so cringe to just have my dick out in front of him
he pulls everything down to my knees and i bury my face in his pillow and it smells a little musky but it's kind of hot

>>43044492
idk, he starts touching my ass and i didn't really know what he'd do at that point but he started spreading my cheeks and rubbing a finger over my hole
i'm not used to foreplay back there so i felt a little uncomfortable but he kept running his finger up and down over it and thumbing my taint which felt really good
every time he pressed down on it i felt like i was going to choke because little moans were getting caught in my throat
he gets up and goes to the bedside for a bit and i look at him next to me and he pulls out some lube from a drawer
my head is clearing up a bit and i'm slightly panicking but he's behind me again quickly and has a hand spreading me apart
he pours the lube straight onto my ass and starts sliding his middle finger around, pressing it against it and i can feel the cold liquid leaking in slightly
i tried reeling my head back to say something but he slotted his finger against my opening and pressed in gently and i just moaned like a bitch instead
i hung my head as he slipped in to the first knuckle and started prodding me
he kept pushing back and forth and wiggling it in me and i felt so fucking stupid for letting it get that far but i didn't know how to say no now, he was inside of me at this point and i wanted to cry

he drizzled more down his middle finger and a new wave of cold hit my insides when he started pushing
he went down to the second knuckle and i was wincing into his pillow
every time he pulled back there was this hot feeling in my ass and then it would feel cool again when he pushed in, and i just wanted him to keep it in because the warmth was getting to be too much
i tried relaxing and focused on breathing because i could feel my insides opening more and he wasn't going to stop, so when he got all the way in i was okay

>>43044549
then he started doing these small little thrusts with his hand and massaging my insides
he started fumbling with his pants after a bit and i was grumbling and groaning at him
i turned back and was pouting but he didn't really give a fuck and kicked his pants and underwear to the floor
thankfully he wasn't the thickest but he wasn't small
he was pulling his finger out further and pressing it in as deep as it could go while stroking himself now and i just buried myself in his pillow
i was practically pulling at my hair when he drew his finger out and i could hear him drowning his cock in lube
the squishing sound of him jerking off was so loud and i wanted to scream but he started teasing me with the tip and mounted me at my thighs
he grabbed a cheek, getting lube all over it, and spread me open when he leaned forward, pressing the tip in
it was burning and cold at the same time and he was panting
he leaned forward and held himself up on the bed while also pressing into my lower back and prodded back and forth
i had alarms going off in my head as he went deeper and all i could do was groan and wince and claw at the pillow cover

i stick my ass out a bit hoping the angle helps and it does a little
his face is behind my head and he's panting every time he pushes back in and i start moaning back to him and after it doesn't feel that bad after a while
he's pressing into me to the base of his cock at this point, giving me more shallow thrusts
they're quicker and it feels a lot nicer than when he was sliding too much of it back
he's practically laying all of his weight on me this point as we fuck and his voice is getting deeper and angrier as we go

>>43044607
we're both getting sweaty and the bed is creaking so much
he wraps his arm around my neck and his teeth are gritted now
i felt like a faggot and i was really enjoying it now and my ass was making so many squelching noises while his thighs slapped against me
i think he was trying not to cum and was calling me a little cunt and a bitch while spitting out deep breaths

his arm tightened around my throat and he pressed completely into me
i was sputtering and choking while he groaned into my ear that i'm a bitch
i was crying at this point and actually started feeling bad as he let go of the chokehold and my head fell forward
i felt terrible about myself now and it burned a lot when he pulled out of me

he sat next to me on the bed and i hid my face because i knew all my makeup was fucked and i felt disgusting
he leaned over and gave me a kiss on the head and we were just there for a while
eventually he got me a towel and told me i could take a shower which i did and idk, i was just paralyzed underneath the water
i cleaned up a bit and wiped my makeup off as best i could into the towel, got dressed and left without saying anything

it's been a day and i haven't eaten save for some leftovers in the fridge
i still don't feel good after all the things he was calling me while doing that to me and i've been ghosting my friends
my ass hurts and i'm scared i fucked up and that it's my fault

so you had sex, but you changed your mind and couldn’t vocalize it, and you feel bad about what happened?

>>43044699
i feel like shit
i feel used and scared about what he might say to people

HOW???? How do you find so many tranny-liking guys? HOW? I had to not tell a guy I am a tranny to get a date with him. I hate my life.

>>43044744
dumb whore. hope you get raped for real. god you deserve it.

>>43044744
i see, as far as i could read it doesn’t seem like he disliked anything that happened. he wasn’t calling you those things to hurt you and he possibly didn’t even mean to hurt you in the way that he did, would you consider talking to him about it, or maybe talking this out with a therapist?

>>43044662
Honestly it seems like it's his fault. He started going at it without ever asking what you like or how rough he can get. At least he tried to comfort you after instead of acting like a stupid asshole. It feels talkable.

>>43044853
do you think he would talk to me again? i feel like i ruined things when i walked out on him

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>>43044816
op is lying

>>43044904
given how much it’s effecting you, it’s at least worth a shot. just try not to be too confrontational or accusatory because, while he should’ve talked with you about what you like and don’t like before, it’s still possible he didn’t mean to do that to you

>>43044946
i'll try messaging him later if i can work up the courage
thank you

>>43044904
no, just tell him you were overstimulated or smtn. he is a guy TBHON so he will put up with anything for some (b)ussy

BICHUD
WINS
AGAIN

Thank you anonette, I got unbelievably hard from this story

t. chaser

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>>43044946
>>43045131
idk how to respond
there's like 2 more

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>>43045764

>>43045769
>>43045764
>>43045756
nona u have this mf by the balls. You can make him do pretty much anything you want. just set up another date and then cuddle or something. try not to say YOU are sorry. he admitted he was drunk, so he already thinks he is at fault.

>>43045756
>>43045764
>>43045769
huge massive big enormous gigantic monumental abuser red flag he's going to do this to you over and over

>>43045787
lol what make you say that. he sounds like he is sorry. he thought it was gonna be a kinky ooo trap type tranny and it ended up being a sad dysphoric tranny, yet he still wants to see her again. I think he just misjudged the moment.

>>43044824
You're a loser and chud btw

>>43045810
physical and verbal abuse like this is a major indicator

>>43045810
He misses that cute twink ass and the little stifled unvoicepassing coos she grunted

He loves to overpower little faggots
He fucking loves it

>>43045837
yea but from his perspective it really did seem like OP was into it.

>>43045850
how do you know that, sounds like he was just into hurting a vulnerable person

>>43045845
idk it seems like they made a decent connection before sex was even on the table. I think a lot of this hate is sour grapes

this is making me sad

if a man thinks it's ok to do this to a person you need to avoid them, there's no excuse for this

>>43045860
>i stick my ass out a bit hoping the angle helps and it does a little
>i was really enjoying
>i was grumbling and groaning at him
>i start moaning back to him
also the fact that op never said no or made any sort of evasive movement.

>>43045756
>>43045764
>>43045769
first, i want to congratulate you on actually being able to reach out to him. how you respond from here is up to you. do you want to go back and try going on another date with him? do you want to try and make something more long term work? the only thing i’ll say is to be completely honest and upfront with what you want with him, and let him know of any limits you have BEFORE you have sex, since it’s a bit tough to have that conversation as it’s happening. if you clearly establish what you want and he hurts you again then please cut him off, but for this second chance, it’s up to you. and if you need some time to think about it, tell him

>>43045896
yeah i told him i need a minute
just reading replies and thinking
idk
im thinking about seeing him again to give him another chance
i really liked the date and idk we were both drunk :[
maybe talking things out will be okay
also idk he goes to my friends uni and knows her so i dont want to cause problems

>>43045769
If you actually like him you'll get yourself a bf hoooly. Though I cannot assure it will be the nicest relationship of all time.

>>43045916
don't listen to the lesbo bitterhons in here. this guy really wants u. at least try it out.

>>43045916
Just by apologizing he has shown to be more decent than 75% of men. Even if you do not want anything serious messing around might be fun. If you are prone to insecurities and shyness going out and being with someone can help you grow.

>>43045891
victim blaming

>>43045916
don't do anything based off of your friend, honestly the idea that you're considering that means you might not be ready for a relationship if you're this vulnerable

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hes a pornbrained retard that needs to be told not to pull out the shit his gooning to without some prior discussion. your an autistic tard that had a sadgirl dysphoria attack mid fuck and froze up like a deer in headlights, don't drink on an empty stomach and learn to use your big girl words. dont fuck randomly on the first date you precious little petal your not the type.

also just so you know this dude is now under the impression that he is imminently going to catch a rape charge

>>43045916
he won’t cause any problems. if you’re just giving him another chance because you’re scared of what he would do otherwise then you’ll just find yourself here again. you need to make this decision for yourself, and maybe, if you feel comfortable, you can talk to your friend about it and share your concern. he didn’t know you that well, was drunk, and is clearly apologetic so i doubt he would think it’s unreasonable for you to take a few days and think about what you want to do. whatever decision you make, please make sure it’s YOUR decision

>>43045975
zero chance he's worried about a rape charge from a tranner

>>43045964
ok tell me how he was supposed to know to stop? there were literally zero signs. does OP have to sign a damn contract?
>>43045975
>also just so you know this dude is now under the impression that he is imminently going to catch a rape charge
trvke
>>43045991
ig it depends where they live. some blue state/city DA would eat that shit up

>>43046022
how was I supposed to know choking somebody without asking was bad your honour

>>43044662
Man your a loser your probably going to die alone if you give him a rape charge for concentual sex that made you feel like whore.

>>43046040
I feel like choking is pretty standard vanilla sex, its not like he really cut off her airway.

>>43046077
it is not vanilla at all it is a violent abusive act

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>>43045942
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>>43046082
lol maybe get laid virgin.
slapping is DV, but slapping during sex is normal

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>>43046092
it's not, you're pornsick, stop trying to normalise abuse

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>>43046098
stop apologising for the abuse they did to you

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>>43046082
nigga 80 percent of women ask you to choke the fuck out of them and spit in their mouth and step on their face while your fucking them on the first date nowadays, the dude is a fucking spastic for not having a little strategy meeting about it beforehand but we don't live in your radfem lalaland, this is vanilla shit now.

>>43046117
FInally.. somebody said it.

If you don't like rough sex, tell your partner, and if they aren't willing to change then part ways. THIS IS WHAT NORMAL PEOPLE DO, INSTEAD OF POSTING THIS ON 4CHAN.

>>43046099
well I guess every sub in the world (and 90% of bottoms (and 70% of cis flyover housewives)) better call the cops because they are DV victims now.
>>43046098
>>43046091
>>43046115

good recovery. enjoy your date. he fd up and he is sorry. try to forgive him or its gonna poison ur relationship

>>43046117
you're clearly a pornsick degenerate this is not normal and you cannot just start hurting people without their consent during sex

>>43046115
its all good, have a nice date and talk about what you like and tell him you aren't into the rough stuff so much and just tell him you want to slow it down a bit

>>43046091
>>43046098
>>43046105
>>43046115
cuteee, enjoy your date, give him a hug when you see him if you’re comfortable with that, he probably needs it and feels really bad

>>43046127
I hate the rough sex shit and I refuse to do it actually, doesn't change the reality that a substantial majority of women are into and will literally ask for it on the first date. Your a sheltered virgin with no idea what women are into.

>>43046139
yeah he should feel bad he attacked her

thanks for the help anons
idk i didnt know what to do and i needed help
im not mad at him we were both drinking and it wasnt rape or anything
hes a nice guy and im just dumb

>>43046145
>ask
notice the difference here
do you have literally any stats on this or are you just pulling it out of your ass

>>43046148
You are not dumb. It was a new experience and you got scared, it's normal. Glad you were both mature enough for the situation.

>>43046148
you're not dumb stop excusing what he did to you

>>43046145
you can find stats yourself on the amount of women that are into light BDSM shit in two seconds on google, im not playing your retarded internet debatelord game. anyone that fucks women knows this shit is as common as dudes being into blowjobs

>>43046155
im not excusing anything like
he didnt know i would be like that and i didnt say anything
he was sweet the whole day and i dont want him to feel bad :[

>>43046178
ok so no evidence then

>>43046183
people do not get to hurt you just because you didn't tell them beforehand you don't want to be hurt
it is on them to ask you first, to get your consent
you did nothing wrong
he did something wrong

>>43046185
congratulations you won the internet debate your reward is you get to continue on in life being wrong and retarded

>>43046211
I accept your concession
strangulation is not just a normal part of sex and you don't get to do it without asking

>>43046218
unc going to be pretending spanking is DV next

>>43046250
not really comparable
I'm looking at some data you could probably found and it makes for some gross reading, most people in this survey would say you must ask before strangling somebody but not close enough to everybody to not be worrying, and a quarter of the women have been strangled without permission
sick stuff

so OP don't you put any blame on yourself, this is something that has happened to other women too

>trannies will let you rape them then ask for a second date
Total Chaser Victory

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>>43044904
Ok, let me break this down for you

1. That story was insanely hot right up until you started feeling uncomfortable
2. As a tranny who has taken many guys: That’s my ideal sex. Every part of it. The only part is that you didn’t give him oral
3. You didn’t do anything wrong, please try not to feel bad
4. He has probably had a few partners who liked it rough like that and he assumed that you did too
5. Obviously it wasn’t what you were expecting or needed in that moment, which is very reasonable. Unfortunately he sounds way too wrapped up in himself to have noticed, which you should consider in the future. Ie do you really want a guy who is this rough/bad at communication (going for the chokehold first time meeting/fucking is a pretty bold move and borderline weird. For instance I’m fine with it but I usually try to send strong signals that I like to be choked and that I want his hands there. It’s a fairly large red flag that he did it anyway despite your lack of signals)
6. It’s ok to change your mind and realize you don’t want that kind of sex again or to have sex with him again.
7. He probably doesn’t hate you, like he said some people (like me) love to be degraded, choked, called bitch, slapped, etc while we fuck and I scream his name like a little bitch, idk it just feels good. But you don’t have to like that or try to force yourself to like it
8. It’s scary but always be ready to ask for what you need or say what you don’t like during sex. If he doesn’t listen, fucking run.
9. You are a good writer.

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>>43045769
2/2 he seems sweet and did the typical guy thing and ASSUMED some shit rather than reading your emotions. He didn’t mean it OP.

HOWEVER

You should not feel pressured to feel ok about what happened or feel like you need to see him again. Your sexuality, love, and bonding are important and you do not need to go beyond your comfort zone. You sound sweet and fragile and if you want to be treated gently then you deserve that. Don’t feel ashamed of that, it’s rare and it’s hard to get back once you’ve numbed yourself or pushed too far. You end up like me, a nympho who has to be beaten up to feel anything. I miss my sensitivity and sweetness like you had. Absolutely do not feel pressured to do things you don’t want to do, ever.

how do yall just have spontaneous sex without pooping on people? i have to rinse my guts out for so long im too turned off to do anything after

>>43046346
you are a sick misogynist none of this is normal

>>43046367
FIBRE nigga, get some in your diet.

>>43046366
thank you
im going to talk things out with him
i think we could learn from each other
>>43046367
idk about others but when i switched to a vegetarian diet like
it made it easier lol

>>43046366
People aren't fragile because they don't like being physically attacked during sex

who knew trannies didn't understand consent

>>43046380
I live off of thai food :((

>>43046390
Do be careful with him though, ok? Have an exit strategy. Really make sure that you are able to escape or hurt him if something goes wrong and he tries any weird shit. If you have your location on your phone send it to a few friends beforehand so they know where you are.

I do not want to downplay how much of a red flag it was that he put his hands on your neck without asking. Unfortunately in the dating/hookup scene there are a lot of bottoms/women like me who don’t verbally ask for it or verbally say no if we don’t want it, and since you didn’t move away, pull his hands off or say no, he assumed it was a green light to go further and degrade you. He’s probably been with some girls before who liked it.

But like the Nona who just called me an abuse-normalizing misogynist said, proceed with caution. I would really consider the character of this man and make damn sure that he isn’t lying to you because some of these guys are just playing with bdsm (poorly) and some are legitimately unpredictable, dangerous manipulators and you don’t want to end up in a situation where one plays nice until you can’t escape and he hurts you bad.

Dude needs to learn better verbal consent, and you should not be afraid to be more verbal either. Personally I think it’s hot as fuck when a guy ASKS if it’s ok right before he does something or if I ASK if he’ll choke/slap/spit on me whatever, I'm don’t think it ruins the chemistry like some people think

>>43046442
just go get a bag of chia seeds and eat a teaspoon full with every glass of water

>>43046418
I didn’t say that was what makes her fragile. I agree with you. She seems fragile because of the way she writes and talks. I honestly worry for her and tried to amend my advice in the more recent post.

I’ve been with lots of folks and prefer 100% verbal consent but I’ve gotten lax and sometimes let nonverbal body language consent slide with certain guys because they know when I don’t want something. I don’t want OP to be abused but there isn’t a way to know how abusive he is or isn’t. He sounds young and desu people are having all kinds of extreme sex these days and it’s unfortunately normalized and unfortunately a lot of guys are misguided and stupid. Idk. Maybe she shouldn’t see him at all. Maybe I am fucked up and traumatized.

>>43046449
think im going to just like
take it slower and try to talk more
and yeah if we end up having sex again in the future try to like
get consent for everything because i did like the feeling of his hand on my neck but i didnt like being choked in his arm or insulted

>>43046485
It's hard to really know anything but yeah a lot of young guys are stupid and try to recreate misogynistic porn, maybe they can change their attitudes but idk, if they've been raised on this stuff and internalised it then how long will that take
Porn really fucked the kids up

>>43046540
Yeah, it did. However I do think there are some of us who are just wired to like the feeling of a guy we love being rough and play acting being mean, I love the feeling of their hands around my neck and going really hard, it feels ingrained in me and separate from porn. But I hate how a lot of guys seem to think that all women secretly like/want that, especially so early. It’s not right…

>>43046373
Retarded foid. Enjoy your cats.

For me a huge red flag is the fact that safe sex practices never were taken into consideration. You gotta use a condom and the fact that he just fucked you without one as a matter of course is dangerous. You don’t know how many other people he’s done this to. Sounds like this was a case of light coercion but in the future don’t go into a guy’s apartment unless you’re ready to deal with sexual advances.

>>43049533
>don’t go into a guy’s apartment unless you’re ready to deal with sexual advances
this was dumb of me
like i knew what i was inviting by going but idk
im over it i made a lot of mistakes and i dont blame him, we both acted dumb