this is a support thread for high machs>what is MachiavellianismIn this context is a dark triad personality trait. "The ends justify the means" is the motto of a high mach. High machs will view the world in terms of what is useful and what is not useful; if a friend is useful (e.g., being funny, getting into parties, being dependable) they'll keep them around, otherwise they will ice them out.>is machiavellianism bad?It is a tendency to be manipulative, but this can be good if you use it for good (e.g., manipulating someone into feeling better about themselves).>what causes MachiavellianismChildhood trauma, especially neglect. If other people constantly put you down and never listen to you, one possible coping mechanism is to simply stop caring about them and distancing yourself. Instead of connecting to them on a human level, you learn how to fulfill your emotional needs through manipulation.>how is this different from autismAutism is genetic and you have it from birth. Machiavellianism has genetic risk factors, but it is usually learned and developed, like other personality traits.>how is this different from psychopathyPsychopathy is a clinical thing where you are physically incapable of feeling empathy/understanding other people at all. High mach is not a clinical diagnosis, its just a personality trait. High machs are able to feel empathy for others, and maybe they do for some close friends/partners, but for most people they simply chose not to. High machs are also conniving and use long-term thinking, meanwhile psychos are highly impulsive. High machs are good at accruing money and moving up the social ladder.>qott: What problems have been caused by your high mach? Last time you were caught in a lie?>qott2: How many personas do you have right now? Favorite one?
picrel is an example high machim mtf and my high mach comes from trauma from my gender transition. it became a lot easier to weather the abuse and manipulation that was directed towards me once i stopped caring about other people>problemsi have lost friendships because of my high mach tendencies. Occasionally I slip up and reveal too much of my hand, other times I don't show enough compassion (the mask slips).>personasUsually I just pick the funniest dialog option, especially when I'm bored. But I do have some characters that I like to play, like arrogant richoid or tradcath woman or cocaine addict. I'm training up a "normal" one right now for using at work because I want to be seen as mature and leadership material by my boss.
shameless bump i know there are more high machs here
>>43048518you're just autistic nigga
>>43048518I'm sorry, but how can I be more like you? I genuinely look down on most people in my milieu and wouldn't mind manipulating if I could but I have too much social anxiety to really do it
>>43048589i dont know if you really want to be like me. if you have social anxiety its because you care too much and are too scared of failing. you have to accept that sometimes people will dislike what you said for whatever reason and move on to a new group of people and try again. cast a wide net.a good technique for practicing is copying a famous actor or other charismatic person's interview. watch the interview and then record yourself pretending to be them. what is different between you/them? thats what you can work on. during social situations you can ask yourself "what would John Actor do" and then you JUST DO IT dont be scared of failure.you can learn manipulation techniques later, you need to nix your anxiety BEFORE trying to manipulate people otherwise you will be completely cooked when caught in a lie
ADVICE: How to date a straight guyPutting this here instead of making a new threadMost straight guys will immediately nope out of dating a trans woman. Your goal is to make him overcome that and be motivated to work through that transphobia so that he can be comfortable dating you.Step 1 is pass. You need him to fall for you BEFORE he knows youre trans, otherwise youre dead in the water.Step 2 is all of the normal stuff that makes guys swoon. Be a little flirty but maintain distance. You want him to look forward to seeing you but do not smother him. You are the highlight of his day, not every minute of it. In the downtime you should let his imagination and his ambitions do most of the work of putting you on a pedestal, if you do this right he will basically do it to himself. The key here for you is to maintain a distant almost parasocial superstar mystique.Step 3 is go on a date. Ideally he would ask you out. Dont let him fuck you on the first date, or the second or the third. You need to let his emotions build for longer. Dont let them plateau, otherwise he will think you are stringing him along. Now that you trained him in Step 2 to enjoy you, you can start being more available now as a Pavlovian reward to him.Step 4 is to drop the bomb. The best time to do it is at the peak of his infatuation, which you have been carefully grooming. He needs to be motivated to combat his transphobia and date a trans woman, and that motivation will come from his love of you. He NEEDS to have no idea up to this point. He should be thinking "I had no idea she was trans, she is completely not my idea of what a trans woman is." At this point just play therapist. Tell him that if he liked you before, he will still like you now and that your transness doesn't change anything, since youve already had surgeries etc. Help him process his feelings and take the plunge into dating you.Step 5 is have fun sex with your new bf.tagging >>43048589
>>43046189You do realise that "the end" justified by the means of machiavellianism is only counted as the good and survival of your state/city/nation?That nigga was a political scientist and statesman, not a supervillain. Goofy ahh autistic niggas like you think they be cookin.
>>43050848Fr. Just say you're a wannabe sociopath, OP. Don't sully Machiavelli's name with your faggotry
>>43048527literally me
>>43050848holy fucking based get these posers outta here
>>43050848I haven't read Machiavelli and have little interest in doing so. The original psychologists named the personality construct after the historical figure but it is otherwise unrelated.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machiavellianism_(psychology)>>43052186>>43052205I never chose to be high mach. I realized that I was after examining my past behaviors. I wish that I could a bit more naive and trusting, but I am not.
>>43052882you are genuinely retarded holy fuuuuuck
>>43052888Care to elaborate?
when i was 12 i read some fiction book where he's like an evil character in it, and i thought it was cool. now im old and i think uh i dont have the bandwith to immerse myself in it and the impact on my life from doing so would be negligable
female autism is so beautiful
>>43053662I am not autistic
