every single time he asked it, yes

>>43054450
Yes repeatedly. But his whole shtick is just acting stupid whenever sometime tries to explain it to him.

>>43054450
Adult human female

xy - male/man
xx - female/woman

>>43054560
So you do not know the sex of any person you meet, because you do not know their chromosomes? Incredible. Do you just not use pronouns for anyone?

>>43054572
chromosomes determine the shape and proportions of your physical body

a woman is a hole men want to rape, which includes fags sometimes

>>43054584
You can be morphologically one sex while being chromosomally the other. Your heuristic is useless.

>>43054602
there are zero men who look more female than male
gender is determined entirely by your birth chromosomes

>>43054608
You are deeply delusional

>>43054450
A woman is whatever I say it is nigga

>>43054608
*loudest wrong buzzer in history*
Try again, faggot

>>43054608
lmao
let me guess: american or afghan education?

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>>43054560
Reminds me of this gem

>>43054450
The guy on the photo is literally what I look like after 8 years on T and no surgery.
He just like me fr

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>>43054689
>*exceptions clearly disprove the rule*
>you, a retarded faggot: “I WILL IGNORE THIS COMPLETELY AND CLING TO MY DELUSIONS”
what a joke

>>43054689
I don't think she said that

Words and definitions are collective shifting schemas across individuals influenced by their respective societies
To answer the question thoroughly would take an entire dissertation and the one guy in the doc attempted to introduce that idea - they edited him in fading cuts over each other implying it was bloviated nonsense, which appeases their median IQ audience. A short dictionary definition feels right to the layman when the reality is it's much deeper than that

>>43054793
Words and definitions are secondary to physical reality
It doesn't matter what words we use to call cats, they will always exist as is

>>43054730
they don't disprove the rule
xy intersex still look somewhat male

>>43054572
Water is H2O and only H2O
Doesnt mean people didnt know what water was before atomic theory and the isolation of hydrogen and oxygen

>>43054825
Sure
And the physical reality is natal males who induce a physical intersex state of being through exogenous hormones are not the same as standard males and are a mix, much more phenotypically and socially in line with natal females

Also noting what it suggests that this conversation is almost always centered on mtfs

>>43054832
False.
>>43054842
Knowing that water is H2O helps you not at all in determining what is water in your everyday life. The fact that you can’t understand the point being made is why everyone in your life thinks you’re a retard

>>43054842
we refer to the liquid that contain H2O and a load of other things as water actually, so you're wrong

>>43054883
because not even /lgbt/ tries to pretend ftms are men.

>>43054902
you are a religious fundamentalist
your ideological bias that castration can change gender (which you feel you MUST believe) overwhelms your capacity to process reality and perceptual information

>>43054689
cis swimmers also have quarterback backs tho
unfortunate sport to choose anyways

>>43054902
Yes so you can define water as H20
And men are XY

And in your every day life you can instantly recognize H2O as water even if you dont know about atoms.
And in your every day life you can instantly recognize XY as male even if you dont know about chromosomes.

Its incredible, the definition matches day to day reality and doesnt depend on the layman understanding the definition for it to be true!

>>43054916
nta but every time you make some crazy assertion rather than an argument I side with the troons more

>>43054916
You are a deeply autistic person, so lacking in a theory of mind that you are not even capable of understanding the beliefs of your interlocutors. Your rigid, black and white thinking cannot deviate from the very narrow script you’ve been spoonfed by others, because the very idea of nuance makes you extremely anxious and uncomfortable.

>>43054923
Literal babble. You just said you cannot know the gender of any person in public because you do not know their chromosomes, and that you are not capable of distinguishing water from not-water without directly observing its molecular structure. It’s amazing how stupid you are. It really is.

>>43054961
Thats actually the exact opposite of what I thread. You may have a hard time reading.

>>43054923
>And in your every day life you can instantly recognize H2O as water even if you dont know about atoms
no that's wrong, the water we experience is not pure H2O and if you had some and tasted it you wouldn't know it's water because it tastes weird

this is kind of a good analogy anyway it just goes against you, what we have constructed as water is not H2O but a mix of that and minerals and other stuff, to reduce it to H2O is neat but it's an inaccurate model for the stuff we get out of taps
where it falls down is that it always has H2O in it, but we recognise plenty of people as female women that aren't XX but have other 'zomes

>>43054973
nta but that is exactly what you said lol

>>43054976
Quote the post I said that in. And preferably the line I said it.

>>43054883
True, but being close to something does not necessarily mean you literally are it, like limits in maths - you can keep going to get closer and closer but you will never reach the limit fully
For most people small differences won't matter but there are times where this precision is necessary
Also, the layman definition is socially useful and does not have to correct for very rare exceptions to the rule

Definition arguments are way too 2016

>>43054985
trans women always look closer to male than female

>>43054973
It’s so painfully obvious you don’t understand the difference between essence and form. There is no point in talking to a retard like you any further. Sorry!

>>43054985
there are no fundamentally true definitions

>>43054984
you literally cannot recognize H20 as water if you don’t know about atoms. how stupid are you? like what?

>>43054993
>yes I have the essence of a man but I have the form of a woman!
you actually have both the essence and form of a man, which is why you get misgendered.

>>43054923
your proving why your point is retarded lol
>water is h2o
>xy is male
>someone sees a glass of hydrogen peroxide (h2o2 (not water)) and thinks "oh! a glass of water!" and moves on with their day
>someone sees a trans woman who from their perspective looks like a woman and thinks "oh! a woman!" and moves on with their day
this is not even close to the own you think it is

>>43055005
If I put a bottle of H2O in front of a child, he will instantly recognize it as water, regardless of if he knows about atoms.
Are YOU retarded?

>>43055008
you believe in essences? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>43054992
There are some feminine enough buried under the hon mountains
>>43055003
Only reality is true and our descriptive modeling of it will always be more or less flawed
Doesn't mean we shouldn't do it, but I do believe hard social constructivism is stupid

>>43055008
>which is why you get misgendered.
And there it is. You are stupid and have no real arguments, and this is why you have to make shit up. This is why nobody takes you seriously. You always end up spazzing out, making shit up, and lying. If you were so confident in your beliefs you wouldn’t need to make up fantastical bullshit. Tah-tah retard!

>>43055021
what if you put a bottle of acetone in front of a child? will they know the difference?

>>43055028
it's not that it's flawed it's that it's always arbitrary and we do it for the use it grants us, social constructivism is right

>>43055028
no, you just don't believe men can look or act feminine while being closer to male

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>>43055035
if people took you seriously you wouldnt have to argue with people to get them to pretend youre a woman.

>>43055045
what's it like to come here to argue against trannies and get mad?

>>43054560
chromosomes are a modern concept and genetics are still poorly understood
it isn't how sex has ever been defined in human history, nor how sex is used, either as a concept or in general
it's not even the scientific or biological answer
the only reason u keep on repeating it and others do is cos u and they think it's an appeal to a higher form of truth, like an appeal to a higher power, which is silly

>>43055040
Yea by smell.
You can get a lot of substances that look like water in one way but dont match it in others. Theres always ways to tell, because fundamentally water is water, and acetone is acetone, and even if you can fool a child with a passing glance, you cant fool everyone.

>>43055045
Why are you wrongly assuming I’m a tranny? Are you actually mentally ill?

>>43055059
Are you a woman

>>43055058
you're so dumb as I said already pure H2O doesn't taste or smell like water to people

imagine being so cucked that you work for ben shapiro lol go die for israel you stupid goy lol

>>43055058
>even if you can fool a child with a passing glance, you cant fool everyone
but you literally can? especially with a passing glance. there are a lot of chemicals out there that look like water and only reveal themselves to be not water under specific (usually concentrated and up close) scrutiny. kind of like some other thing youre denying exists...

>>43055078
Ok. So does that make those substances water?
Theyre really similar to water. Same specific gravity, same refraction, tasteless, odorless. You need an mass spectrometer to get their composition and learn they are not water. Are they water?

not knowing if water is safe to drink is kind of a big problem

>>43055078
trannies look like women at a passing glance but never once you see them move for a minute or two and hear them talk

its kinda like if you've ever drunk lemonade thinking it was cola and first it tastes like cola then you realize it is lemonade

is it water if it's got fluoride in it? chalk? stupid argument that actually reveals we don't use water to mean H2O generally
and we don't use female to mean XX generally either

>>43055117
all vegans tell you they're vegans, just listen to to a person and if they tell you they're a vegan then you know they're a vegan
this is a 100% effective strategy to tell if a person is or is not a vegan

>>43054730
It's not even an exception. That's like saying red pandas are an exception to the rule that pandas are bears. You are a (intellectually stunted) man.

>>43055160
are you saying that there are no men or women that are not XY or XX?

>>43055128
and yet everyone who is XX is a female
and everyone who is XY is a male.
Just like that water with minerals and fluoride is still fundamentally h2o, and if you take the h2o away, its not water.
your sex is immutable. Growing breasts doesnt change it. Growing your hair out doesnt change it. taking chemicals doesnt change it. You are male, and seen as male, which is why you have to fight tooth and nail every day to convince others to see you otherwise, and when they dont you invent new definitions to try and change reality. But reality is unchanging.

>>43054907
>unironically using vaush's awkwah argument
Ngmi

>>43054591
I want to rape huge masculine hairy guys

>>43055181
>and yet everyone who is XX is a female
>and everyone who is XY is a male.
no
>Just like that water with minerals and fluoride is still fundamentally h2o
no it isn't lol, it's water, it is not H2O, you're silly
>your sex is immutable
based on what? it seems like you start with that assumption and work backwards, motivated reasoning
base reality doesn't have any labels

>>43055196
don't know what that is I don't watch that paedophile sexual harasser chaser racist

>>43055220
>based on what
chromosomes.
Which is why youll never find a woman whos chromosomes are XY. Its just scientifically impossible.
>but how do people know what a woman is before understanding chromosomes.
by the byproduct of those chromosomes
>What about this trans person who has done XYZ to become a woman
no one ins confusing them for a woman

chromosomes rule your life

>>43055101
no, but it does give these substances a "water" label in the minds of everyone who looks at them. we dont have a word for some kind of social label for h2o in english, which makes sense, it doesnt have much use. we do have a word for whats generally recognized to be an adult female, and that word is woman. a passing trans woman is a male (so long as xy is our definition of male), but she is a woman in the perception of everyone who perceives her (the definition of passing). now is the part where you either say passing is impossible or sex is the same as gender, both options would out you as a retard not worth engaging with

>>43055070
Irrelevant. You have no arguments and retreated into the “you’re a tranny!” cope. Like we get it, you don’t like trannies. Probably because you are a painfully autistic, unemployed, friendless man who spends his time trolling a board for fags and trannies. You are actually beyond pathetic and you’re useless, embarrassing existence is a net negative to society.

>>43055268
Trust me, people will give a shit if you start saying water is a social construct and h2o2 is water because it looks like water and feels like water.
write "water" on a bottle of that and try to sell it and see how quickly the "who cares about atoms and chromosome!" people start caring.

>>43055241
>chromosomes.
>Which is why youll never find a woman whos chromosomes are XY. Its just scientifically impossible.
this is wrong, we don't group people into man/woman solely based on chromosomes, in fact we don't tend to use them at all, we use other observable traits
>no one ins confusing them for a woman
happens all the time, not just to trans women that are XY but people with all kinds of other variations of chromosomes
the blueprints, the instruction set, can be overridden

>>43055268
they always just say passing is impossible. they are delusional and don’t even believe their own arguments. if passing is impossible then they wouldn’t even need to bring up chromosomes.

>>43055277
why are you mad at your computer screen.
its just pixels dude

>>43055311
I’m not mad. I am calmly explaining reality. Does that bother you?

>>43055292
all groupings are social constructs that doesn't change anything
if you sold pure H2O as bottled water you'd get in trouble too, your water point isn't getting you anywhere

>>43055326
just odd you started shouting insults during a scientific discussion
i hope youre ok

>>43055311
I think you're mad and I would like you to calm down

>>43055292
good thing i never said water as in the physical h2o is a social construct. however, you would be retarded to deny it is possible for someone to mistakenly (yet wholeheartedly) believe a non h2o substance is water. its possible for thousands of people to be fooled by such a substance, a substance that in their minds is water. we dont have a word for this weird internal understanding of water because there is no reasonable use for it (the closest thing is the concentration percentages on bottled liquids and stuff like that), but we do have one for adult members of the female sex. thats what "woman" means

>>43055021
what if you put an XX woman in front a child and the child thought it was a man because she had a shaved head, facial hair from PCOS, and was a tall body builder? your whole point is really dumb

>>43054450
I think adult AFaB is way more robust because women are built, not a thing at birth, lmao

Whenever transwomen are like, "I KNEW I WAS A WOMAN AT 5", you have to laugh. Come on. A woman? You can barely pee without soaking the entire toilet, let alone understand what a woman has experienced.

Horrible terminology for "felt more girly or smth ig"

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>>43055171
>troon reading comprehension

>>43055342
You cannot perceive shouting over a computer screen. Please take your meds.

>>43055367
>you would be retarded to deny it is possible for someone to mistakenly (yet wholeheartedly) believe a non h2o substance is water.
oh i dont deny these retards exist
but I also refuse to play pretend with them just because theyre retarded

trans women are men who look male

>>43055386
huh?

>>43055388
>I also refuse to play pretend with them
you are not capable of distinguishing men from women because you cannot perceive see chromosomes
>inb4 we can always tell!
nonsense. you don’t even know what half the words in this thread are.

>>43055404
Why are you getting so angry? It’s 4chan, relax.

>>43055432
Remember that time you told your mom you were trans and she started to cry?
good times lol

>>43055397
Transwomen are transwomen, who are AMaB, and sometimes look close to female, especially if they're already intersex.

>>43055384
ok let's go over it you boring thicko

>picrel says there are more people than xx and xy
>first reply says these exceptions disprove the rule that all men are xy and all women are xx
>you, an idiot, says it's not an exception it's like saying red pandas (non xy/xy men/women) are an exception to the rule that pandas (being xy/xx) are bears (means you're a man/woman)

>>43055440
this is the tranny board for trannies and we talk about tranny stuff, why are you here? do you enjoy it? getting angry and failing to make arguments? it seems sad that you would come here to spew vitriol, sad and odd

>>43055446
circles are circular
circular definitions are non informational
meaning is derived from context and comparison

>>43055451
cais and swyers look male due to their chromosomes

>>43055440
My feelings are very hurt right now. How could you do this? Why are you so angry?

>>43055467
>failing to make arguments
and yet youve still convinced no one that youre a woman

>>43055474
>cais look male
lmao

>>43055440
you are a “man” wasting your life trolling people on a board for trannies and fags. beyond pathetic lil bro.

>>43055388
>everyone who mistakenly believes a substance that looks like water is water is a retard
so like, do you watch movies where an actor is drinking water and go "hmm, well that substance there is in fact water because i am smart and can verify that it is indeed h2o! thats why its water, because the contents of that liquid are 100% h2o" or are you a normal functioning human who just assumes its water because no fucking duh

>>43055482
I've convinced lots of people, you're a transphobe that starts from the position that people have a magical male or female essence though, so nobody will reach you

>>43055482
it’s very obvious you have no friends and no job. your entire life is a failure, let’s be honest now

>>43055489
if someone showed you a male looking cais you would just bury your head in the sand and deny it regardless of reality

its like jesusfreaks
they can't be convinced he wasn't real and isn't magic

>>43055515
you don't have to show me one male looking person with cais you have to show me none looks male
you're not very good at this

>>43055474
>circles are circular
No
You just don't want to think transwomen are their own gender because MUH TRVE WOMAN SOVL bullshit

>>43055515
Correct. Transphobes are just interested in attacking you. They don’t care about reason or evidence. Which is why they always resort to “erm ummm ok well you’re a tranny and your mom hates you!” These “people” are a social irritant who probably just need to be put into labor camps.

>>43055529
trans women are male gendered, if they weren't you would be able to show off passing trannies in any lighting, any angle, in motion, next to cis women etc. and they would look just like women

>passing trans women exist you just don't know they are there
>jesus's spirit is on earth you just don't know it's there

>>43055552
>we can always tell!
THIS is a religious delusion. you cannot accept that it is a delusion, because you are delusional. you arent interested in truth, youre only interested in harming people. this is why you gotta be removed from society. sorry! we are done with mentally ill antisocial vermin like you

if you want a useful idea of what women are then it would make more sense to study where the group came from and what has maintained and policed it over history, what powers and what methods on what basis have included and excluded people

>>43055552
have you ever done one of those quizzes where you try to tell trans women apart from cis women?

>>43055552
You are so out of touch with reality that you are actively a danger to society at large. If you had a compassionate bone in your body, you would do the right thing and kill yourself to spare us all your pathetic existence.

So.... what IS a woman?

>>43055552
see
>>43055145

>>43055597
gincel’s delusions are unfalsifiable. he has already admitted many times on this board that if and when he has failed, it’s because of lighting, makeup, hair, angles, literally every excuse to make his delusions unfalsifiable. he doesnot live in reality.

>>43055599
anon you seem to still be getting mad at the array of illuminated squares on your personal computation device.

>>43055552
I believe in Jesus and I also believe that there is a 100% passing trans woman somewhere out there

>>43055617
part of a historically congruent group of people first created probably in late prehistory that are associated with childbirth and various other traits

>>43055631
we can always tell apart from when we can't

>>43055632
I’m quite calm actually. Thank you for your concern, I appreciate it!

>>43055637
are they different from females?

>>43054490
Oh ok I guess somebody should explain it to the Olympics board

>>43055668
historically we've not separated the two ideas much

>>43055685
what is a female

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>>43055679
i guess you have no arguments and are just a smarmy cunt. prolly why you have no friends
kwab, btfo, etc.

>>43055617
adult AFaB

>>43055668
The prefix “trans” indicates a category seperate and discrete, yes

>>43055709
so a trans woman is a male woman
and a normal woman is just a female woman

>>43055704
are you jewish?

>>43055718
trans women are male men
being delusional doesn't make you socially a woman

>>43055704
Oh ok I guess somebody should explain it to the Girlguiding committee

>>43055694
depends on usage, sometimes literally the same thing as woman, sometimes it refers to a trait, for instance we might say xx are female chromosomes or breasts are a female secondary sexual characteristic, you can also use it to refer to a whole organism but then it gets messy because there's no widely agreed upon way on how to sort individuals, although it can still be used semi-accurately on large, population scales and those kinds of models as a proxy

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>>43054450
>I DON'T LIKE YOUR ANSWER!! ANSWER MY QUESTION AGAIN YOU DUMB TRANNY!!
noones obligated to answer shit. esp after u reject all their answers and abuse them. itd be easier if you figured that out yourself, since your answers dont go anywhere either. go cry to your mommy you manchild

>>43055718
Do you mean “trans” “gender” “woman”?
A woman is something else.

>>43055753
Don’t use the women’s bathroom, honbeast. Thanks!

>>43055754
why do you post these kinds of assertions? you know that a simple assertion wont do anything, does it do something for you? genuinely curious, it seems pointless

>>43055718
Go up a tier.
Instead of making a stupid war where we try to redefine "woman" so that it can have modifiers...

we have a new group

transwoman

WOW THAT WAS SIMPLE
INSTEAD OF CORRECTING MILLENIA OF LANGUAGE

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>>43055769
did the 'go cry to your mommy you manchild' part fusebox your brain or was it another part?

>>43055769
does it make you feel unsafe

>>43055787
we're women though we don't want to be some third thing

>>43055769
Bathrooms shouldn't even be gendered in the first place

>>43055854
all forms of sex segregation, and the matriarchy in general should be wholly abolished and abrogated

>the matriarchy
I fucking wish

>>43055832
>but I wanna stick my foot in the door and insist I'm a woman

Women are made from day zero.
Transwomen are made from day whatever.

No one wants to accomodate you
Everyone is so fucking tired of ameliorating the proposition that you are basically a woman because you're adjusting your endocrine environment.

Tough fucking cookies
"Woman" can only coherently mean "adult AFaB"

>>43054675
>>43054644
>>43054628
can you post them? specifically post them next to other women. men with no surgeries, nothing, no makeup. they gotta exist rite?

>>43055869
Culturally the West is a soft matriarchy

>>43055885
you insist that but I get gendered right all the time so like tough cookie for you that I'm doing ok?

>>43055886
trannies ALWAYS do fraud shit
they are never honest
they never do thorough full comparisons from ALL ANGLES

watch, they just post anglefraud and play dumb when you point out the gimmicks they use

>>43055787
>INSTEAD OF CORRECTING MILLENIA OF LANGUAGE
says the half illiterate guy who doesn't understand what language even is and is currently trying to correct history by gaslighting people into thinking he's doing the opposite (the vast majority of neoconservatism, he's definitely not brainrotted by glowies, there's no way) solely so he can further jim crow a minority. hey by the way. quick english lesson for you. woman already has "modifiers" saar. they're called adjectives. i know you don't think enough of women to realize they're not all the same but i hope you learned something today

>>43055908
getting the excuses you'll make in first huh

>>43055832
>we're women though we don't want to be some third thing
woman = vagina, xx. rare, incredibly, vanishingly rare examples exist but they don't apply to 99.9% of trannies

if a black woman was not black she would be a woman

if a white woman was not white she would be a woman

if an asian woman was not white she would be a woman

if a short woman was not short she would be a woman

if a fat woman was not fat she would be a woman

if a TRANS woman wasn't a """woman""" that's a MAN baby

>>43055918
i know your pasty white ass isn't trying to say "cock and balls make a man" is equivalent to jim crow laws. surely not.
>go use YOUR bathroom
is not even remotely equivalent to
>we WILL hang you from a bridge if you get angry about having to shit on a roach infested toilet
KILL YOURSELF TRANNY

>>43055926
wait i meant if a trans woman wasn't trans lol x
i'm a little tipsy xxx

>>43055926
?
if any woman wasn't a woman they would not be a woman

>>43055934
idk if it undermines your point to present your bloodlust in the same post you're saying it's no so bad

>>43055959
>woman already has "modifiers" saar. they're called adjectives.
my point is that adjectives for real women don't remove the fact of them being women. if you take the 'trans' away from 'woman', that is male. that alone shows that your logic isn't logicking

>>43055955
if a trans woman wasn't trans she's be a cis woman
drink some water and go to bed

>>43055934
illiterate ass bitch cant contain his anger through text lmfaoooo. please understand that you are objectively functioning off the same principal. i know the cia taught you that's wrongthink but please try. it's funny i thought you'd pick that one to strawman when i posted that

>>43055971
oops sorry i forgot trannies could only be dishonest and purposely read into things a certain way to suit their argument lemme be really explicit
if a man who identifies as a trans woman stopped being trans, he wouldn't be a """woman""" anymore. he would be a man

>>43055973
>please understand that you are objectively functioning off the same principal
nope
black women and white women have vaginas, xx chromosomes, and are women
trans "women" and women are biologically different in most ways

>>43055970
if you change the trans out then you get a cis woman, idk why you're doing anti indian racism now, because of the drink? odd

>>43055993
if a trans woman detransitioned they'd be a cis man because they'd be changing two things at once
I don't know what you think that proves
if a fat woman became a thin man it would be the same, changing two things at once
if you only changed the trans part to cis though then they'd be a cis woman

>>43055993
>>43055994
like a short haired woman (afab) who gets long hair is still a woman (afab). the short haired adjective is gone but the woman remains
trans women (amabs who use she/her) who nix the trans do not become women, they are men :3

>>43056018
you are so fucking sad bro

>>43055904
Pronouns can overlap
She/her is used for transwomen

People understand that
We know it helps them and it's coherent with their "character", so to speak
It seems abjectly rude to just dismantle their costume and create pronoun chaos

>solely so he can further jim crow a minority.
>jim crow
>white bedicked people
>in 2026
>white guy whose ancestors were very likely attending lynch mobs
>claiming ANYONE is trying to jim crow his fucking assless ass
>in 2026
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rape used to be find good and legal when it was whites doing it against other whites and brown women but then the niggers started doing it and it became a problem

>>43056025
>like a short haired woman (afab) who gets long hair is still a woman (afab). the short haired adjective is gone but the woman remains
yeah changing one thing there, just the adjective
>trans women (amabs who use she/her) who nix the trans do not become women, they are men :3
yeah you're changing the adjective and the noun, that's two things you're changing there
also you're calling me sad but being drunk on a wednesday trying to debate tranners is bleak :/

>>43056036
I pass though soo

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>>43054450

>>43056025
A hot dog does not become a dog when it gets cold

>>43056053
anyone can lie online
words cannot prove or convey female appearance

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the "jim crowing" xhe means

>>43056045
what's really bleak is that you will have to do the shitty little girl voice you make forever
you will get surgeries, take hormones, etc. spend endless money on makeup, clothing, etc. nobody will ever see you as a woman

>>43056058
hooooly fucking retard

>>43056061
ok, I don't need you to believe me though, I'm just saying it's not a problem for me

>>43055918
Adjectives for "woman" exist as traits for women. G'duh. But saying, "wants to be a woman" as an adjective is sort of nonsense to the set in general.

Like, I want to be a trillionaire.
Oh, so we should make a subset of trillionaires for me. lol

Do you know anything at all about set theory? Are you going to gaslight me into thinking you do?

>>43056072
You don't pass. People are lying to you because they know if they point out all your male traits it will count as a hate crime in clown world

>>43056067
>you will have to do the shitty little girl voice you make forever
>spend endless money on makeup, clothing, etc.
>nobody will ever see you as a woman
have you ever obtained a single bit of information that wasnt delivered to you straight from the factual and unbiased reporting of dailymail.co.uk?

>>43056067
lots of people see me as a woman
what do you look like anon?

>>43056083
no though, lol, you're so bitter

>>43056094
>i can see into other people's minds and know what they are thinking

>>43056082
social construction of terms isn't the same as set theory, we don't see you as a trillionaire because we don't construct that grouping that way

>>43056094
>lots of people see me as a woman
Noooope~ nobody does. Not a single soul. You don't even see yourself as a woman and that's why you're arguing that you totally are that you Totally Pass because you have to see yourself every day. If you felt you were a woman you wouldn't do many things to "become" a woman. No actual woman needs voice training, HRT, constant reassurance that she is what she is.
Nobody is falling for it sonny boy. Cock between your legs and XY chromosomes mean MALE

>>43056105
this is what you people have been claiming the whole time. how do you think chuds obtain the "people are lying to you when they gender you correctly" information? peer review?

>>43056053
"I am not a crook"

You're still a transwoman. And that's literally the idea.
You're just living in an environment where that's a bad thing but the truth value (as per this model I'm using which is unpreferable to you since it reminds you of AMaB state) is still the same.

Donald Trump is a great president because that's what he calls himself...
or, no
wait
maybe he should validate that claim, lmfao

>>43056105
>>43056111
oh no you really do have no theory of mind lol
it would have to be one hell of a conspiracy haha
why are you samefigging?
>No actual woman needs voice training, HRT, constant
lots of cis women do both

>>43056120
I have personally experienced the lengths people will go to to deny feminine men exist.

>>43056122
you're all over the shop, go to bed

>>43056111
>No actual woman needs voice training, HRT, constant reassurance that she is what she is.
complete retardation on all fronts
>Cock between your legs and XY chromosomes mean MALE
"argument" falls apart depending on which specific tranny youre talking to

you guys are supposed to be the objective truth crowd, right?

>>43056129
write a book

why do we have so many poltards here constantly engaging with trannies with the same "CHROMOSOMES!!" shit? it's been like 10 years can you people move on? this shit is staler than gamergate get a life

>>43056106
...and people still construct you as not women

Come on
You think everyone would agree with the hypothesis that transwomen are women? Or a subcategory?

For me, it's just that feminine-presenting people want she/her pronouns and that's the supercategory

they're drunk and they're just doing the posting equivalent of screaming things in the hope they'll become true
sad
needs a friend to tell them it's not worth it

>>43056135
Oh. You ran out of ideas.
That's OK.

>>43056147
I pass so people don't know to be transphobic to me

>>43056164
you didn't say anything coherent to reply to, something about donald trump

hope you don't get a hangover gincel and you find some happiness in your life

>>43056151
but enough about trannies for the past 10 years ;)

>>43056201
you're drunk right now, that's you

>>43056174
I'm saying that self-declaration of what you think you are is never enough.

Which is a bit contentious with a certain subgroup of trans populace (theyfab) but runs within the transwoman groups too. And this site has no fucking problem calling them women.
But they call themselves "they". Are they?
Is it true?
Is there any point to that subcategory?

>>43056213
Sweetie, you don't even know who I am XD
Stop accusing CHUDs of drunkies when lovely trannies need their nightly vodka to survive a subsequent day of rude people

>>43056229
constructed groups are constructed groups

>>43056238
not heard that stereotype before but whatever excuses your problem

>>43056122
TRVKE
NVKE
I guess if these men are women then Trump is literally saving the US and melting Iran into a puddle yeah? LMFAOOOO who knew reality was that easy to manipulate!
I AMMMMM a billionaire ;)

>>43056255
Woman isn't a constructed group... woman is a reality you will never know, ever, if you are born male

>>43056360
It's a socially constructed group, didn't always exist, it emerged from material conditions and it's maintained and policed

>>43056151
>they're just doing the posting equivalent of screaming things in the hope they'll become true
I agree with you sister! btw i am being hunted in the streets for being trans. i am being genocided. I am being racially discriminated against i am in deep danger of being lynched someday. someone think of us twans girlies uwu

>>43056350
>>43056360
If you want to hide samefigging don't make your posts always a minute apart

>>43056386
>It's a socially constructed group, didn't always exist,
Every single human being on Earth was born from a woman. YOU didn't always exist, YOU emerged from material conditions and YOU are maintained and policed. Women are real. YOU are real too, as real as any other MALE man with a penis

>>43056360
proof?

>>43056400
Sir, your prostate exam? Have you scheduled it?

>>43056398
We didn't always divide people up this way

>>43056410
that's not really a proof

>>43056398
You're projecting your own current understanding of gender back through time

It's far more grim to be somebody that seethes at trannies on their own board than it is to be a tranny imo I'm glad I'm neither

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>>43054450

>>43056398
Some are born from trans men :)

>>43056350
What if territory changes hands are you going to insist everywhere that's Iran right now is and was always and always will be Iran? Not one grain of sand needs to move borders, to regroup areas, to socially construct the limits of a grouping

>>43056436
Maybe you should have stuck to your own board?
Too late now, you wanted visibility and you got it

>>43056489
What is my board?

Gincel passed out drunk

>>43056398
Mailmen don't have dicks. Stop making shit up.

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>>43056398
>Every single human being on Earth was born from a woman
False. And why are you crashing out so hard? You don’t have to be here. This is our board and you aren’t welcome here or making any difference. You will never win here. You can just leave instead of ragebaiting yourself like this.

>>43054608
CAIS

>>43054689
>>43055737
>oy vey if you dont kick out trannies we will sue and rape you

>>43056410
Trannies have blood test, biology denying retard

Probably not

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WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU "PEOPLE" BUMPING THIS OBVIOUSLY RETARDED BAIT POST!? PUT SAGE IN BEFORE YOU REPLY TO THESE. FUCKING RETARDS OMFG.

>>43058279
Tranny melty

>>43055737
kike

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hi chuddy! here is a relevant hazbin hotel image for your post.

>>43058343
epstein liked tranny slop and funded it loll john money is a pedo who came up with the basis for your reality

>>43054490
>Yes repeatedly
What was the answer he got?
I don't want to watch the movie.

>>43057306
>NOT EVERYONE WAS BORN FROM A WOMAN
>Posts a pregnant woman
What did anon mean by this?

>>43056460
>>43057306
God have mercy on anyone who was born from a pooner