Sorry to be the bringer of bad news but everything you think of in terms of data hoarding and control is about to go out the window. Client side content scanning will be nearly universal in a few years, and you will not have a choice of what to keep and what to delete. The system will take care of all of that for you. And your pre-client-side-scanner devices will eventually become so old and unable to support changing standards that you'll be keeping all your shit on fragile antique electronic bricks. Like an old Apple IIc that is kept in a museum, occasionally being powered on.

If you truly want to preserve text because you're concerned it will be censored, paper is the only way forward. The distinction between "the internet" and "my device" is already blurry and soon there will literally be no distinction.

>>43054631
^technologically illiterate post

>>43054686
^zoomer who doesn't even know what a filesystem is

It's ok, you'll find out the hard way :-)

>>43054631
>turn on apple IIc
>start word processor
>put in diskette / diskette emulator
>open document
??

>>43054715
And what happens when something goes wrong with your antique computer? How will you get information out of it?
>nothing will ever go wrong, everything I need is right there!
Got it, nice plan.

Ohhh I get it. "I don't plan on getting old". That works too.

>>43054744
I repair it??

>>43054772
That will not happen.

>>43054631
encryption and data preservation are not that hard. while i agree that government retards are overreaching and trying their hand at destroying everything, most of their efforts only really affect the internet (or world wide web rather) and non-tech savvy people so far

but id rather be safe than sorry. doing what i can rn

>>43054703
>doesn't even know what a filesystem is
ext4 with dm-crypt wont safe you from daddy trump, if it was that important theyd enforce restrictions at point of sale

>>43054827
They are in fact hard. The fact that you immediately thought of encryption and not hardware failure proves you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>43054789
Brah I study semiconductor engineering

>>43054789
>pretentious bullshit
>pretentious bullshit
>pretentious bullshit
>"nuh uh"
care to enlighten us on this mysterious knowledge about how recording and accessing files on physical hardware will be literally impossible within our lifetimes?

>>43054847
Great, so you're just going to rebuild South Korea circa 2023 when all your shit stops working 40 years from now and replacement parts, if they exist, cost as much as a house?

>>43054853
Digital preservation is in fact a hard problem to solve, people dedicate whole careers to this problem.

>>43054895
I'm fine if I can store and access it for another ten yours now gtfo you stupid doomer

>>43054895
uh? you didnt include the part where you say "storing data on personal hardware will be impossible in a few years because [your answer here]" i would genuinely like to know why this is the case

>>43054703
I'm 38 and still work in a tech-adjacent field.
You're simply wrong. You fell for big tech PR.
Shit like this is being attempted every year and they still don't work. But techies like to make a mountain out of a molehill because it gives them attention.
I have CDs from 1997 that still work today. Multiple backups, decent storage of hard drives and, yes, paper (as well as a matrix printer) can go a long way.
Devices without local storage have been pushed since 2007. They're LESS common today despite the relentless propaganda for content side scanning and removing user choice.
Stop being a panicard, take a chill pill and just archive.

>>43054933
Why 10 years? Why that number?

>>43054958
Something being physically possible within the known laws of physics does not mean it is going to happen within the constraints of your actual life in the real world.

>>43054631
typed by non-STEM-degree hands
if the governments of the world fight against technological autism then autism wins, sub-zero diff

>>43054541
Can you tell us exactly what you have so I can archive this stuff myself later? I've been getting a bit paranoid too and really should start archiving this shit sooner than later

>>43054978
I never said to panic, you are adding emotions because you were already emotional about the topic. I just chimed in because I am older than you and I know how this shit works. BTW those CDs, if they were burned and not pressed, will eventually degrade past usefulness. You think they're "fine" because the CD-R format was designed to handle scratches and light damage. But eventually the usual tricks that the drive and your machine are automatically doing to hide the damage will stop working. At that point you'll still be able to get a lot of data out of it if you know how to tell your CD reader to ignore errors and keep going. But by that point, I highly doubt you will still care enough to do so.

>>43055000
I've wasted enough time trying to walk STEM people through basic, BASIC problem solving skills to treat "non-STEM hands" as a compliment. You people seem to mostly be drawn to the field because you know you have no creative thinking skills, no people skills, and no real intelligence. You got memed by 4chan into thinking you can just memorize a lot of things and make a career out of being an unpleasant retard.

>>43055031
>I never said to panic
Yes you did. And then proceeded to insult everyone who disagrees with you. And to my amusement, you have the gall to tell others they're unpleasant retards.
Go fuck yourself, glowie.

>>43054981
ok, a simple "you will be unable to store data on personal hardware because [your answer here]" would also suffice. you can just like answer questions instead of making snide remarks, its not really that hard

>>43055086
Same to you friend. Have fun playing with computers.

>>43055113
I explained it pretty clearly (and politely), you just flew off the handle because you can't differentiate between normative and descriptive statements. You saw a statement that appeared to suggest your plan had a flaw, and you took it as a personal attack. Typical STEM thought process. If you can even call it "thinking".

>>43055151
wow you are insufferable, i am not op i joined in bc i like archiving things and want to know why i should just give up. heres everything you said:
>client side content scanning will be nearly universal in a few years (source on this would be epic)
>you will not have a choice of what to keep and what to delete (on my own personal hardware? like it will be physically impossible?)
>your devices will eventually become so old and unable to support changing standards (no argument against transferring data? and also how old? and also nobody will ever care to maintain physical hardware ever??)
>paper is the only way forward (this is where the implication that op should give up is)
could you answer it like a person who does not use reddit, please and thank you

>>43055202
There is no point in being able to transfer data if there is no device that you can transfer it to that does not have a client side content filter, unless you just plan on keeping 10 samples of the exact same device so that you can just throw out broken examples or cannibalize them for parts.

And if "use paper" is giving up, sure, you should totally give up, I guess? I must have missed the point in time where printers stopped existing.

>>43055231
>unless you just plan on keeping 10 samples of the exact same device so that you can just throw out broken examples or cannibalize them for parts.
you clearly don't know the kind of people that hang out here regularly

>>43055262
Eventually the 10th device will fail. I will admit I made a huge mistake here which was to make assumptions about op's motives. I figured they wanted to preserve knowledge for future generations not just hoard it for a decade or so and then ragequit and throw all the broken shit in a dumpster.

>>43055231
"use paper" would be pressing op to give up on their explicit goal of digitally archiving knowledge, yes. its a different goal
do you think there will never ever be any evolutions of personal data storage that one can continuously transfer data through over the years? never? in any part of the world?
>>43055295
lmao op is literally storing website domains on it, which will obviously go down long before the concept of digital storage

>>43055439
A domain is just an address, nonny. What medium to store the information depends on the type and amount of information. If it's about DIY HRT it can't be more than a couple of hundred pages.

And yes, I do believe there is a time in the near future when offline storage as we know it will stop being a thing. You will of course be an autist and say "the laws of physics", but I am talking about the laws of manufacturing and consumer demand as they relate to one another. When was the last time you found an mp3 player in a store? Again I know you're going to be an autist here and say "but I can still load up an mp3 using..." and at this point I give up because I forget how frustrating it is to converse with an autist who doesn't want to understand something out of ego sensitivity or something.

>>43055503
no i wasnt going to say that, because i recognize that despite falling out of popularity (in the western world), its still actually incredibly easy to find a purchase an mp3 player. "as we know it" is doing a crazy amount of heavy lifting there but i think its safe to assume you dont have a reliable source to get the claim that offline storage will just not exist "in the near future". because what the fuck are you talking about. which dystopia are you convinced will be 100% real and happening in the next 5 years? (also assuming your use of "few years" and "near future" doesnt mean some stupidly large amount of time)

>>43055544
It's "easy" if you go shopping for antiques. But eventually the supply will dry up as people empty their junk drawers and most of it ends up in landfills.

>what the fuck are you talking about what dystopia
The same dystopia that took away your headphone jack despite you screaming until you were blue in the fact that "that's crazy, consumers will never go for that". The same dystopia that got rid of ethernet jacks and ejectable spinning media slots and oh my god even the serial port on most computers sold today despite the fact that this was "crazy" because we NEEEEEED those things because don't you know (some list of reasons that turned out not to matter).

>but I can still buy a...
Yes but you have to go looking for it, and eventually, it stops being available. Because the average consumer is not you. They did not read the selected works of Richard M. Stallman, nor would they care to if you offered to give them a copy on your 1.44MB floppy. Most people do. not. care. They will accept what the industry decides they want, and they'll be happy with it. This isn't a normative statement, btw. It's a fact that has been proven time and again.

making my own stuff is the first thing that Im going to do after I start working again. this is getting ridiculous

>>43055623
I can still buy brand new smartphones with a headphone jack for less than 150 bucks. I can even buy an Edison cylinder.
I can even buy copper wire and some rings to create my own core memory like that used in the Apollo Guidance Computer + it will outlast your paper.
You're just kinda wrong here anon

>>43055721
Once again, like a typical STEM major, you forgot that people exist, and your entire project is pointless if those people won't bother to access your data hoard because it's on UNIVAC standard paper punch cards.

There is a very simple, reliable, foolproof solution here, that has been around for probably 10,000 years, but you consider that "giving up" for some weird reason maybe because it invalidates the value of your STEM degree.

>>43055623
um i have a headphone jack actually, in my phone. almost all strictly audio devices do as well. all of that other stuff also still exists in some form, and yeah its unpopular, but it still exists because it still has reason to exist. idk if u know this but the vinyl record industry is actually going surprisingly strong in the modern day considering the circumstances because fun fact, people like owning things. even many of the supposedly npc newer generation (which i am a part of). some people have hobbies and even careers revolving around keeping the concept of owning your own media (because i promise you no matter how many upgrades it will require the concept of owning media will always at least want to exist unless we get hooked up to some hivemind neuralink or w/e). just because youre jaded about how irrelevant all the ways you used to do things are doesnt mean i should be a doomer about my future. and yeah, if worst comes to worst i will use paper. thank you for the advice

>>43055771
And I still have my CD collection and my CD player, doesn't mean they won't end up in a dumpster when I die.

>>43055764
Okay, fair enough, but don't hit me with
>le paperino
now. If we wanna preserve this let's erect some rocks, get out the hammer and chisel and cuneiform it.

>>43055804
You can create hundreds of pages of paper printouts that will last for centuries in a matter of minutes. You can create multiple copies of that printout and distribute them. But sure, chisel and hammer, that's practical. I'm sure you'll get around to that, just like you'll get around to making your own apollo guidance computer because you got so wrapped up in the exercise of executing this in the most autistic way possible that you forgot why you did it in the first place.

>>43055790
>he doesnt know how to transfer data from cds onto other media or at the very least how to convince someone to keep the specific media that he likes alive (which he really wants to exist after he dies for some reason)
yah sorry idk how to help ya there unc

>>43055833
Yo I'm a castrated faggot... saving the world isn't really on my bucket list. I'm mostly living to have a few moments of fun before I remember that I'm an evolutionary dead-end posting his thoughts on a subterranean caveman forum

>>43055838
You can't even convince me, someone who is in full agreement with the overall premise, that you can achieve what you claim you're setting out to do by the actual means you've chosen. How are you going to convince people who AREN'T on your side, that playing around with copper wires is somehow worth the effort for them just for the preservation of some shit where if you explained it to them they'd look at you like this.

I understand having hobbies and playing around with gizmos, I really do. But at some point you have to see that your hobbies aren't a solution to every problem. You're like the gun people who think a gun fixes everything. No, a gun occasionally fixes an extremely niche category of situations, and usually with significant repercussions.

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>>43055900
>>43055838
oops forgot my look at you like this picrel

>>43055900
us people know that people like us have and will always exist.
They find an obscure thingy and will want to figure out what it's purpose is/was.

>>43055932
Yes, and that's great, I think tinkering and experimenting with half-broken electronic gizmos is wonderful hobby. By all means hack those christmas lights and roll your own optical codec so that they can send a secret message to your buddy across the street.

But when your neighbor's garage is on fire you should probably just knock on his door instead.

>>43054541
sometimes illegal sharing this

>>43055002
scraped thru httrack:
diyhrt info (the revamped one)
diyhrt market

scraped by ctrl+s in my browser:
hrt fm

i made a large text file compiling more sites, people, info repositories, pharma providers used for diy, 2 canaries and the tracker i found them on
adding surgeons as i come across their names, i havent bothered reading up on surgeons yet as the only thing i can get in the next 5 years is an orchi, maybe (no insurance bc eu)

ctrl+s scraped the most recent hrt gen (will scrape the sites it links to when i get around to it)

i also have a recipe for 0.2% E gel

planning to also scrape/download pghrt and some groups,io stuff today among others


also, i only wrote the initial post, this post and >>43054827 cause i was asleep

>>43054541
make backups (+ offsite) and make a raid + push what you can on archive.org

I doubt anything you have burned on 30yo CDs has any value aside perhaps as blackmail against you