Looks like you guys are good for something afterall

>>43060433
TCD is non negotiable

>>43060433
let me guess the victims are disproportionally black and hate white trannies like me instead of their real enemy, cis people

try to stay out of prison my fellow hons and pooners

People don't care about suffering of trannies and don't care about suffering of inmates.
I don't know what can be done in this situation, the article says that
>the Trump administration cannot be allowed to get away with this.
But they will. What now.

>>43060722
minimize interactions with law enforcement and anything that might draw their attention to you. that includes posting certain things online. keep a low profile

>>43060458
holy persecution complex

>>43060433
is there anything we can do about this? anyone we can contact? I'm thinking about emailing civil liberties organizations about what steps can be taken, but does anyone know?

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>itt posters shocked a country ran by super pedos has a prison system that has been experimenting on and torturing people for years

>>43061030
Maybe the splc? The main problem is that this will keep being fought all the way up to the Supreme Court, and we all know how they've been ruling on similar issues. There probably isn't an institutional way to deal with this right now

>>43061043
are you a tranny or a cisoid?

>>43061047
I literally just started looking into it, seems to be a temporary injunction already in place, i.e. its not happening right now, but if that falls the BOP will put it into effect. I'm seeing that a few different orgs are already looking into it and gearing up for legal args in the future. I'd have to look into the case law surrounding the injunction and etc. and until much happens in court we won't know the field we are playing on.

>>43061091
Thank god it's been at least temporarily stopped. For now, the only thing to worry about is v-coding, what a relief

>>43060433
I dont get it. They are just stopping giving them hrt. How is this bad. Its not like they are killing them. Prisoners shouldnt be entitled to hrt like wtf.

>>43061047
so, the implication that the court is anti trans and thus will rule a certain way: not necessarily. like, yeah they're anti trans, but I think it's important to also note that some of the previous cases that have been ruled in a way effecting trans people were kinda not there in legal argumentation at least.
there's morality and legality, some of the past cases at scotus were def immoral, but also didn't have good legal grounding, at least with the current interpretative framework. which sucks of course but sometimes that's the way things go.

it's far too early to tell how things are going to shake out and I need to do some reading before forming my opinion on whether it's over yet.

but I'll be real, I'm only a roadside observer of constitutional law and none of the current arguments in this case, Kingdom v. Trump, I am extremely familiar with. https://www.aclu.org/cases/kingdom-v-trump#legal-documents

>>43061154
there's injunctions in cases that have stopped women from being transferred to men's units. (doe, moe, and jones v bondi) yeah it's fucked. it's fucked this is even something that could possibly happen. but it's not happening at this very moment. I'm not sure if that grants anyone any solace, but there's still a fight happening at fucking least.

>>43061190
You're definitely way more knowledgeable on this than I am. I hope you're right and it winds up being struck down. I feel sick even imagining being in that situation, its sickening the things they do to us

>>43061177
>prisoners shouldnt be given healthcare.

Quite literally the resson that Universal Human Rights were introduced in 1948.

Also the plan is to replace hrt with anti psychotics, which will give people brain damage

>>43061177
I know you're a chud troll, but if the courts wind up going along with it won't be "just" stopping hrt. The BOPs reasoning for discontinuing it despite evidence that it helps trans people is that it will be fine of they can get us to stop being trans. That's where I assume some creativity would come in to find a "cure"

>>43061230
once again, not a lawyer so anyone can correct me if im wrong, but I think there's an additional layer of cautious hope here, which is that legal battles move slowly. even if this is resolved in record time, we are looking at a year or two, and its possible that some injunction will continue to be in effect
meaning it is theoretically possible that this could be paused for long enough that the current administration is replaced. a lot of conjecture there, i can't tell the future nor can anyone else and we don't know if the next admin will be harsh on trans people. but to say the least, neither a good nor bad outcome is certain.

they win only when we give up hope and stop fighting, which is why they attack us in such horrific and vile ways. please remember that we will win in the end.

>>43061482
>paused for long enough that the current administration is replaced.

Trump will run in 2028, and use ICE to intimidate voters and just use Elon to rig it anyway

>>43060433
Very based we need progress in fertility science to beat the jews

>>43061177
Fucking retard not aware of what Transgender is. You should be forcibly transitioned so you know how we feel before receiving gender affirming care.

>>43061074
Are you a Negroid?

>>43061482
>please remember that we will win in the end.
I agree that we will, but it's hard seeing what so many will go through in the meantime. Nobody deserves this horror show they want to inflict on us. Everyone would plainly see that doing the equivalent to cis people is comically evil. It's just hard to live with the knowledge that so many people, even our neighbors, don't see us as human at all

>>43061527
>It's just hard to live with the knowledge that so many people, even our neighbors, don't see us as human at all

The average german turned their head away as the SS captured their jewish neighbours and friends, to be killed in concentration camps

Officers in China shot women and newborn babies in the head at point blank range because the mother dared to steal bread to feed her starving child.

People are fundamentally evil, the Milgram experiment is right, the Stanford experiment is right

>>43061548
It's one thing to know this, another thing entirely to see it happen to a group you're a part of. I haven't yet accumulated enough resigned cynicism to be unphased by these things and I hope I never will

>>43061558
As a mtf that was falsely imprisoned, i too hope you never personally experience what people are capable of

>>43061030
you can start killing federal employees and politicians. every major civil rights leap was preceded by violence or insurrection.

>>43061567
I'm extremely sorry that happened to you and I hope you're as OK as it's possible to be after that experience. I hope you live to see the people who did that to you get what's coming to them

>>43061508
i grew up in an apocalyptic cult and have largely stopped believing in either hopeful or fearful futures, because i have seen all predictions fall flat. maybe this will be the case, maybe it won't. maybe in two years conservatives will have a different bogeyman than trans people, maybe in two years we will all be dead, maybe in two years i will be a monk in a remote location.

>>43061624
Its ok, you have to compartmentalise the hate otherwise it just destroys you. Have to learn to cope

Department of Education giving kids chems :)
Department if Corrections giving criminals chems :(

>>43061647
>i grew up in an apocalyptic cult

I bet you've seen some interesting things

>>43061624
>I hope you live to see the people who did that to you get what's coming to them

It was someone high up. They'll never see justice, those types never do

>>43060433
yes, american prisons (and prisons around the world) generally suck to be in. i'm sorry this is how you had to find out. the entire point is you're kinda not supposed to like being there

>>43061527
i wish i could give you some hopeful aphorism, but im still not sure how to live with this, i dont think anyone ever can be. i guess we just have to be extra vigilant for our souls and extra kind to each other because no one else will.

>>43061829
Actually the point is to make money off of forced labor and torture. Prison industrial complex or something like that. Sorry you had to find out this way

>>43061881
Who makes money of torturing and brainwashing trannies though? I can't see this as anything other than blatant sadism

>>43061881
yes i'm aware of the specific wording of the 13th amendment. i'm aware that, historically, black people were given bogus charges to get them in prisons to continue being slaves. you are not as intelligent as you think you are and you are certainly less intelligent than i am. with all that being said, i don't think anyone is looking at your typical anorexic transbian and thinking "wow that person surely would do GREAT at performing manual labor!". nobody is falsely imprisoning trannies. any tranny that claims to be falsely imprisoned is an outright liar and definitely did some shit to somebody.

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>>43060433
>with the aim of preserving their fertility
why are conservative straight men so weird

>>43061971
conservatism is rape made ideology

>>43061898
No doubt the people hired to do these nazi experiments are sadists. Fascist movements act in service of capital though and the extermination of groups that create problems for capital isn't new. The fact that they're testing this on prisoners makes our future really concerning desu
>>43061901
>you are not as intelligent as you think you are and you are certainly less intelligent than i am
my bad einstein. my bad.

>>43061624
Thanks for the nice comment, means a lot

>>43060433
this is to serve propaganda rooted in faith
stop tolerating faith

>>43062043
We weren't even making problems for capital though. Tech trannies have contributed a lot, especially in the last ten years but even decades ago. Nobody is helped by this, they even remove their own pacifying rape toys by making us too ugly for v-coding this way. It's just pure evil for evils sake

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they worship literal cocksucker jfc

>>43061548
You know those experiments were manipulated because the scientists wanted to push the narrative that people were evil?

>>43062110
Social and economic activism are intertwined unfortunately. Trannies tend to be leftists and subvert gender norms which are a part of the superstructure of capital, plus reactionaries already lost everything on the gay issue so they're pushing extra hard to not be embarrassed again.

>>43062194
That objection to the Stanford prison experiment is so irrelevant. Sure zimbardo selected the guards for showing sadistic traits, but guess what, IRL prison guards self select the same way. Its also useless to bring up the he instructed them to be abusive. As you can see, real governments do that too. There is a massive number of gleefully cruel people in any society, and every now and then they are allowed to indulge themselves

>>43062226
He didn't just pick them for sadistic traits, he specifically ordered them to commit sadistic acts above and beyond their own recognizance. That's narrative pushing, not science.

>>43062282
Yeah that's completely unlike what the Trump admin is doing with this guidance, you're right. Not relevant at all, we can just dismiss it

>>43062321
I'm not going to pretend it's science if you just want to vent. I get it, this shit is scary, and a lot of this systemic shit is falling in your direction and as someone who's been on the other side of it... It's easy to believe people are just cunts. But you're not. Don't let this turn you into one and you decrease the net shit of this universe. That matters.

>>43062432
Yeah you're right. I was just venting. Things are dark, and I find it hard not to let them make me worse

>>43062548
I been there in my own fashion. It's alright to vent and it's natural to worry, just mind that it doesn't burn you up inside.

>>43061971
nah it gets weirder they want to see when ftms can become pregnant after going off hrt its really weird.

>>43060448
BASED

>>43061043
atp i just don't believe in american politics anymore, yadda yadda anything fringe is a conspiracy theory but the cia honestly just brainrotted america with constant psyops and propaganda, much of which was to prevent actual left wing ideas from existing. so fucking many americans are just straight up delusional

>>43061567

what's your story about that experience? if you're okay with talking about it

>>43060448
Yes

>>43060936
I keep thinking I need to stop posting online but it’s too addictive idk

>>43065645
They're preparing for Gilead

>>43065645
We need a civil war. This is holocaust tier.

>>43061548
100% 1000% 10000%.
This is the only logical conclusion to everything, to all of human history.
The human animal is uniquely evil.
>b-but I’m not suffering at the hands of other humans most of the time!
Yeah because you’re evil.

>>43061527
> Everyone would plainly see that doing the equivalent to cis people is comically evil.
The exact equivalent, forced chemical castration, was done to Alan Turing not that long ago. After he basically won WWII. It’s always like this.

>>43067180
A very sad one. Went to prison for possession of an offensive item, a police baton in my car. It wasnt mine, was planted.

They put me in a Cat B prison. Cat A is where serial killers, baby killers people who will never be released go. Cat B is where dangerous drug dealers go. someone shot someone else with a shotgun, or kidnapped someone at gun point, or human trafficking, or shifting blocks of cocaine etc. They all go to Cat B.

It was ok, i tried to kill myself one time cut my neck and wrists open, no hrt, 23 hour lockdown, schizophrenia got really bad, i did lots of colouring in, the food was terrible, prison is very racist, some guards were nice, some prisoners were nice, one guy stabbed himself in the arm when he showed me he said thats what my vagina will look like when i get it done lol. Ultimately would not recommend, would probably suicide before going back. I've had lots of bad things happen to me and thats just one of them

>>43067659
one of my top 3 biggest fears is some crooked lifelong dipshit cop planting something on me and fucking my life up for good. really sorry to hear that you had schizophrenia that was agitated on top of that too, and that it isn't just a one time awful life event that happened to you either. I atleast hope you weren't there for more than a year from the sound of it. Despite it all I hope life treats you better

>>43067780
I spent 60 days there. Some of the men there were facing 18 years, one had 29 years. Everyone had gone insane. Screaming a lot. People watching their family die whilst inside.

The lifers were fucked mentally, spoke to one guy who had been there since 1991. I dont know what the solution to crime is, but it definitely is not prison as we currently do it. I think they will look back on now as barbaric times.

I cried a lot. It didn't feel real, i usedyo hit myself because it felt like a dream, and i was going to wake up at any moment. In a way, the AP was worse, AP means approved premises, its where you stay after release, got raped in there, and robbed. No good. At least i could resume hrt.

No, defo dont recommend. I hope it doesnt happen to you either, or anyone else itt. Nothing glamorous about suffering, you just suffer and your soul dies and no one cares

>>43067964
thanks for being so receptive. i have ocd and anxiety + the current administration has put me in a state of ambient panic in my nerves nearly everyday since november 2024.

i don't think think institutionalization is something thats tangible enough for me to experience irl but i can never shake the fear of it because of my fear of authorities.

in a weird way i sort feel oddly eased a bit by talking about it with you, so thanks. I really hope that you're in a stable living situation now and that it won't be likely to happen again. stay safe

>>43068166
Its understandable to feel anxious about it, but the odds of rogue police are small. Its just rotten luck, like anything else in life, wrong place wrong time.

The best thing is to be aware but try not to let it take over your thoughts, easier said than done lol. Im safe now, thats what i try to focus on, try to focus on the good

>>43068166
Thanks for listening to me

>>43067357
That's not the exact equivalent. The exact equivalent would have been doing a gooner forcefem brainwashing breeding fic to him. Couple of crucial steps missing