The feminine beauty is the peak of aesthetics, a symbol of civilizational growth and the path to spiritual refinementIts artifacts (long hair, pretty dresses, gentleness etc.) should be actively encouraged instead of being merely tolerated or even worse - actively suppressedAnd AMABs being actively discouraged from pursuing beauty is just proof that they are culturally considered second class people
>blocks your path
>>43072737Based and Hellenepilled
>>43072737>>43073153Fetishization of masculine, muscular bodies is more akin to less advanced civilizations which still rely on physical strengthOnly the most developed societies can afford a culture of ignoring physical strength and allow people to literally wear art on their bodies
The ancient Greeks: famous for their ignorance and lack of sophistication Just because skirt go spinny makes you hard doesn't make it some kind of universal principle
>>43073190You're the modern version of the degenerate cavemen who made figures of fat women out of mud
>>43073273Not really, associating fatness with fertility is also typical of not very advanced societies
>>43073190the romans were tribal compared to the greeks but that's because of their disdain for gymnasia and boyfucking. appreciation of the male form is directly correlated with the lateness of a civilization, because it is this very objectification which removes men from their dulce-et-decorum-est duty of being spear fodder
>>43073322I'm no history expert, but the way I see this in modern society is elites using masculine men in propaganda as encouragement for men being expandable, mainly in military ads obviously
>>43072712>>43073190trueanons, imagine: a society where everybody is beautiful, friendly and nicenow, a society where everybody has a buzzcut+beard+hairy bodies, are competing all the time and are easy to get angry
>>43072712>gentlenessYou do realize all the being nice all the time is forced, right? It's a survival mechanism.t. actual XX female woman
>>43073318>typical of not very advanced societiesanon i want you to think very long and hard about what might cause a person to be fat or skinny, and how a society's development might alter the demographics of the fat/skinny populations. i think you will find that this post is very retarded.
>>43072712This is half of the truth, but very true in many ways. It baffles me that anyone can think otherwise. Power to rape/kill/over-eat is not privilege, it’s beastly
>>43075101I mean gentle forms of self-expression, not brainwashing of feelings like corporate toxic positivity and the likes
>>43075145Oh but I didn't mean corporate toxic positivity.
>>43073322The greeks were not advanced retard, their written records simply were the ones to survive. >aldoYou're right, OP. The more advanced a civilization gets, the more femenine it becomes.
>>43075241i didn't say they were advanced. i said they were more advance than the romans, which is true. but they're both retarded toddlers compared to their chinese and indian contemporaries
>>43075101>>43075153OP isn’t talking about feminine culture in the west necessarily. Lots of subcultures are still imperfect and infected with antisocial ideology. She’s talking about an ultimate ideal that ‘femininity’ has been slowly arcing toward throughout human history.In what way does a properly advanced and coordinated society need petty power struggles and meanness? Niceness is different than gentleness.OP, please give this a look and tell me what your thoughts are. It feels very resonant with everything you’re saying. It’s an a map/outline for all the prerequisite somatic, group, and cultural work that needs to be done for us to achieve “utopia”. It was catalogued via crowdsourcing and collated/programmed by a very beautiful and advanced thinker:https://yeshuani.org/pages/the-utopia-index
>>43075186>>43075287There's a lot of autism to unpack but I get the main idea, it's just that in reality the groundwork is rarely done in 100% before moving onto the next stage of development, and those skips often end up causing issues later down the lineThat's not to say we should always wait either, just be prepared for eventual fixes
>>43075287> ultimate ideal that ‘femininity’ has been slowly arcing toward throughout human historycan you talk more about that? I can see the patterns but it’s hard to describe as an ultimate ideal
>>43075764What I think is that the advancement of civilization lets us pursue higher needs than basic survival, like art, beauty, spiritualism, additionally some aspects of highly civilized society can be considered more feminine than masculine - non-aggression principle, patience as a virtueFeminine aesthetics are a form of expressing this sort of high level human activity, which usually starts forming in cultures advanced just enough to survive and begin thriving, but is almost always exclusive to AFABs as AMABs are expected to keep protecting what exists and potentially expanding the empire further, still an expendable cost of civilizationBut, we did have some forms of the feminine aesthetics being allowed for AMABs, usually either for aristocrats or sex slaves, the latter still being expandable in a way, just a different way - nonetheless the further growth of civilization allowed them to express itWhat I mean to say is that at the highest stage of growth feminine beauty will be valuable and attainable to most members of society - that won't necessarily mean every person will be very feminine in absolutely all categories you could think of, but at the very least in aesthetics and a highly civil form of personal conduct
>>43076053why are AMABs fucked in every species?I guess you know about bees, preying mantis, and many moreeven lions, one lives the good life while the others sufferand with everything you said, it’s clear it’s not very different for humanseven on a biological level, human AMABs have worse orgasms and die soonerI remember when my parents almost beat me up because I asked for a little of makeup to hide a disgusting acne scar, while my sister solved the same problem the same waybut because I’m AMAB, I suffer fucking treat of violence just for wanting to do the same thing as AFABsit’s hard to not feel like a second class citizen when you’re AMAB, it’s like being born poor, one of the worst things that can happensorry for the rant
>>43076409Generally it stems from reproduction, purely biologically the organism that impregnates is rendered useless after it has impregnated another one, and the organism that gives life is rendered useless after the new offspring becomes independent enough to have a chance of making itWe're the only species that can rise above its biology but only to some degree, and it's a real long process to be able to rise further
>>43076053> we did have some forms of the feminine aesthetics being allowed for AMABs, usually either for aristocratsWhat went wrong? Ik about the great male renunciation, but why did the west regress so much in this aspect?
>>43076445yeah I already had some idea thenbro I guess I have an inferiority complex for being AMAB, can you help me with that? the more I learn, the worse it gets, even though I’ve been coping better over time
>>43072712AGP hands typed this
>>43076457I blame the French revolution personally, its ethos of the working class hero who only cares about labor while beauty and aesthetics are considered frivolous joys of aristocrats and bourgiesThis mentality persisted in labor movements and most liberals of the time and now here we are
>>43072712OP why do you think females are considered the beautiful sex in humans, while it’s often the opposite for other animals?
>>43076601It's most likely a result of us being at a crossroads between our innate spiritual need for beauty and the difficult nature of our worldConsidering how difficult and time-consuming pregnancies are, as well as bringing up children to the level when they stop being useless and hopeless, it made sense that females got to be the ones carrying the torch of beauty while everything else fell on males
