>>43073084
it's whatever

>>43073084
i dont give a single FUCK about you

i see a lot on this board and theyre all faggots

>>43073084
sex

>>43073084
You mean unrelated to how you dress and stuff?

>>43073084
hrtwinks are just a different kind of repper. At the very least they are enby. No cis male says "I want to break my dick and get boobs to be happier with my body"

>>43073095
/fags/

>>43073104
I think some might crossdress or girlmode from time to time but the core is based around having a more feminine body with the other stuff being unimportant. Like their self-identity is estrogenized male.

>>43073107
I think they definitely fall under some category of queer or gender fluid but like there isn't even a desire to change pronouns so it feels like its own thing as well. I do think some trans girls are coping with this but I think true HRTwinks exist and find them interesting.

>>43073084
me if i passed but i dont so im an hrt repper

>>43073084
I literally don’t care. Why should I?

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>>43073084
i think they are very hot and i want to wife one up
>t. boymoder

>>43073183
Cartoons aren’t real life anon.

>>43074362
I couldn't find a verified hrtwink to use for the meme (wouldnt want to put a trans woman in it) if you know one that posts pics you can replace the image with it

I do think of them as basically trannies but whatever, doesn't bother me

>>43074739
I think they'll gain popularity among normies because you don't have to think about pronouns with them, which normies hate. Unfair I know, but it makes sense to me. My fear is that they'll be pointed to by transphobes who'll tell trans women why can't you be like them and not socially transition? And they'll make it harder to do it. Which isn't fair for the hrt femboys to be used like that either but I think it's a possibility.

>>43073084
> I'm talking about those ones who genuinely just take hormones and live their lives comfortably as males
Hi (:
>>43073107
Lots of “are” here
Whatever I “am”, doesn’t mean anything beyond a concept used to facilitate categorization and stereotyping for understanding and predicability

I’m a (straight) bottom so idc that much about my dick, and I love my boobs, who doesn’t love boobs? The only problem related to them is society thinking they are a problem
>>43073123
> their self-identity is estrogenized male
My self-identify is just myself, I don’t attach external classifications to my identity, I just use them if they’re useful

I dislike estrogenized male though because of the lack of a female counterpart. Testosteronized female? Nobody says that, so to prevent new harmful stereotypes, I prefer the MOE classification (male on estrogen)

Yeah, I’m a moe boy :3

>>43074800
>Testosteronized female
I'd used androgenized female, which is a bit confusing but, you know, androgens.

>>43074800
same, i just think of myself as myself, and that’s who i’ll ever be
>t. cis man on hrt

I'm just a femboy nigga tf? I don't have dysphoria at all I just find this shit hot. Fruity ahh bottoms be doin the same shit all the time and i get flak for using some hormones?

>>43074759
probably not, I mean if they appear like women they'll confuse people anyway so "yay"

>>43075310
Imagining you as a cute black boy fuming at the computer rn anon

>>43074800
>female counterpart
butch and much more loosely tomboy

>>43080127
not every butch or tomboy is on testosterone, so not a counterpart

>>43073084
You know, at one point in time we would have to struggle to fit them into our typology but it's 2026 and we can just say they're non-binary and forget about it.

>>43080363
You would have to be insane to take Testosterone without dysphoria

>>43074800
larp, and also:
>>43080363
the counterpart would be theyfabs and "cis lesbians" on testosterone and shit like that

>>43073084
i think hrt is bad becauese it has side effects. better just being healthy vibe pass

>>43082348
Just do injections. All the negative side effects come from liver and kidney damage due to oral intake.

>>43073084
I know one and he's the cattiest bitch I know but he's hot af

He's an actual luckshit tho

>>43073084
>HRTwinks?
trans girls.. next question?

>>43082651
I think they count as trans femme but not trans girls because they dont feel bad when you call them he/him or men and dont socially transition thoughever. Like if you were a real trans woman you'd want that right?

>>43073107
nta
>No cis male says "I want to break my dick and get boobs to be happier with my body"
My dick works just fine and my boobs are smaller than 50% of the non-estrogenized men lol.
My skin and hair mogs tho.
>At the very least they are enby
If I call myself enby in my country I get a beating from everyone.
>kind of repper
what exactly am I repping? I'm out as a faggot and live with my bf.
I like my feminine body but I don't want to be a girl. If I were to switch to a full tranny dose and get BA, I'd ultimately be hsts which... doesn't sound endearing at all.
What's so wrong with being an estrogenized faggot?

>>43082709
>switch to a full tranny dose
Other than breast growth, what are the downsides of this if you want the benefits of estrogen? It seems to me that the best results would come from a high dosage regardless of your goals.

>>43073084
i started dutasteride at like 20 and e a year later but got scared of GYNO making me lose cis privilege and stopped. later i resumes E but this time with SERMs. i have been doing that ever since until i ran out of SERMs and idk where to get more anymore but i still don't have noticeable gyno. just perky nips. i am flat chested with only slightly perky nips and i keep the other benefits of HRT like soft clear youthful skin and fatter butt and no belly fat and my face is more gentle and very androgynous

>>43073084
Who cares do what you want with your own body. Idc if some twink is a coping trans, or just wants to be a feminine male, or just wants nice hair. Its their life, not my problem and not my business. HRT doesn't do shit anyways and I don't see why other people shouldn't be able to modify their own hormone levels as a consenting, conscious adult. Just use whatever words you want to identify as, it's your life and your own self perception

>>43083165
Didn't mean to sage my b forgot to take it off the name

>>43082873
>Other than breast growth
That's one problem. Being a man with tits is simply not acceptable in my country.
But the bigger problem would be disruption in my dick functioning. The lower dosage allows me the best equilibrium - and has been for almost 7 years now. I can fuck him when I want but also the bottoming experience is hotter to me (fewer or no random erections).
Yes, a higher dose would have given me the other benefits faster, but at a cost I wasn't (and am not) willing to pay.
I'm really okay with where I am and won't stop. It bothers me when I'm called a repper tho. I don't want to be a girl. I'm just a fag. Always have been. And being more andro looking makes me feel great with myself.

>>43083165
>HRT doesn't do shit anyways
You're either ignorant, getting hondosed, or not putting the work in (staying active so your sluggish metabolism doesn't cuck you).

>>43083239
unfortunately I'm too lazy to exercize, so eating well and everything else will have to do

>>43073084
In the other places where people can differentiate gender expression =/= gender, it's not that hard of an idea to shallow, they r usually gay tho or het catboys or something. This kinda stuff would never be understood in this board tho.

>>43083438
I recommend trying anyway because while eating right and the rest is good, its having that active metabolism that helps the most. Your body is a constant cycle of chemical reactions. If that cycle is a long one, changes happen slower, including transition hormones. If you are fit and active, things happen faster. I regularly work out a lot and I noticed my ass and thighs thickening in just 3 weeks of HRT. I regularly gain and lose a pound from eating like shit and working it out so I think I'm just naturally built for weight cycling, whereas someone who sits on their ass all day is going to struggle to lose their moidfat and the chemical replacement of estrogen will just take longer. Even if you eat healthy it won't resolve this problem.

you are not a twink if you aren't fit. you can still be a femboy or something though

>>43073084
they are coping most of the time but that's their own prerogative and I don't try to convince them they're trans
a man is entitled to his own copes and trying to force them to see reason is not only a waste of time but not even helpful
the majority of them are coping trannies, a small minority are onlyfans/streamer etc etc trannies that pretend to not be trans to attract the transphobic femboy fan audience and then maybe an even smaller minority of them truly have no gender identity conflicts

>>43084019
thank you for trying to help ;-;
I only managed to do 4 minutes of pilates daily, which I do really fast because I really can’t bother, so I’m sure it only lasts 2 min or so (and it should be 5)

though I noticed I’m significantly more disciplined and willing to take care of myself and do the things I need to do and so on, and I’m just 3 weeks into hrt

so I guess I’m in the best state ever to try to turn things around, but exercising really is the biggest chore for me… so I’m still stuck

>>43084273
I recommend just walking at first. Either around the block or with a treadmill. Put on some music or a podcast. That'll give you foundational strength/endurance that will make other stuff easier in time.

>>43084471
thanks, I will try :)
at worst I ditch the bike to go to my job

anyone else remember hearing the word unisex for gender neutral clothing for the first time? just another memory that affirms i've always been in between

>>43080460
why do you think he’s larping?

>>43074613
nta
The reason is because it's heavily stigmatized even in queer spaces, not to mention in normalfag spaces.
I'm basically a straggot. Married to a woman and even have kids. But I also shoot up girljuice. Sometimes my wife jokes that I'm experimenting so I get the perfect dosage for the time she will need it. And she's not entirely wrong, lol.
Point being, other than her, zero people know that I'm shooting estrogen. And there's zero incentive to ever tell anyone because I gain nothing and lose quite a lot.
>>43074759
>My fear is that they'll be pointed to by transphobes who'll tell trans women why can't you be like them and not socially transition?
Very fair concern.
But consider this: trannies hate on us quite a bit too.
Even in anon spaces if I say I'm an hrt femboy I get called a tranny or a repper and soon after there's insults to my wife and/or my children.
So the incentive is to shut up.
Even when we (me and my wife) fool around and try to "lesbian pass" I don't make a big deal out of it, while trannies will see it as evidence that I'm something that I'm not. Heaven forbid a man has some fun and does some light body moding :(

>>43085760
>Married to a woman and even have kids.
not hating, but how does that work with having kids? i feel like it'd be even harder to explain being an hrtman than gay parents or even a regular transition

>>43086344
>how does that work with having kids?
wdym?
I don't have noticeable boobs and the kids (or anyone else) don't have to know why I look younger than the men my age. Heck, the kids haven't noticed even that, yet.
It also helps that I live in a country where gender expression is not a national obsession. If I were single, maybe I'd be clocked as a fag. But since I have kids, we're both clocked as some "alt" form of parents. Heck, older conservatives even congratulate us for making it work to be both kinda degen but also have a functional family.
Gay marriage is not legal but being a fag is (and widely tolerated). Looking like a fag is also widely tolerated. So is wearing a kilt in public (which I do, very often).
Being a metalhead since I was a kid also helps. The community has been aware of me having long hair since forever so it's not quite a surprised that the long haired guy also dresses rather unconventionally.
We only fool around more daringly at specific events. Other than that, I'm just a normal straggot.

>>43086681
>It also helps that I live in a country where gender expression is not a national obsession.
ah, i guess that's just my american bias coming through. here i think kids would catch on very quick that their dad is "different" pretty young unless they're socially isolated; in general the only "alternative" looking people here who have kids are like your absolute trashiest face tattoo/drug abusing types, everyone else either never has them or they go back to normie style so they can have a real career

>>43087856
I don't have tattoos (I actually think that is trash coded) and I smoked a joint in high school and that's the extent of my illicit drug consumption, lol.

>>43087952
fucking everyone in the US smokes weed now, it's not even alternative-coded anymore it's something that middle aged aunts do

>>43073084
They’re cool I think anyone should be allowed to take hrt under the condition they’ve frozen their eggs or Sperm so they can still have kids

I am an HRTwink.

My mom would disparage men to me as a child, so I grew up really hating being perceived as a male/threat to people. I've always been jealous of women and being pretty.

I love the effects of HRT, but I stopped 2 months ago just out of a weird fear for my future. Hiding boobs is hard and awkward. I miss wearing skimpy t shirts. I can't go out swimming with friends anymore. I have no idea what to say to future relationships.

>>43088396
>they’ve frozen their eggs or Sperm so they can still have kids
I wish I did this even though I never planned on having kids before

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>>43088451
cute anon

>>43088451
cutie. would bully for having boobs every night

>>43088451
>but I stopped 2 months ago just out of a weird fear for my future
honestly if it made you happy, keep going. That said, maybe use this opportunity to check your fertility levels, see if you can bank sperm, and do it. I recommend Legacy, they have the cheapest long-term deal.

>>43073084
Twinks are bottoms and bottoms are evil. Only gay tops are good people.

>>43088504
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>>43088598
Thanks for the suggestion. I think I'm too in denial to go out of my way to bank my sperm.
>if it made you happy, keep going
HRT is extremely bittersweet to me, some of its good, some of its bad. Hard for a fickle bitch like me

>>43088647
>Thanks for the suggestion. I think I'm too in denial to go out of my way to bank my sperm.
Its honestly not that bad. I don't want to be a shill but Legacy's forever bundle is sooo easy. You just purchase it and they ship 3 boxes and an STI test to your house. You nut in that and ship it back, and they store it in a bunch of separate locations. You're golden. Its even on sale right now, though it is still a hefty chunk of change.

The one thing is that if you want to put your sperm in a surrogate, aka not your wife, you will need another federal STI test that can check for everything Legacy's test doesn't.

Not only does it feel good to tell concerned relatives their grandkid prospects are indefinitely secured, but its also peace of mind knowing you can 'mone it up and even if it permanently sterilizes you you're still fine. As a hrtwink who has done exactly this its a huge weight off my mind.

>>43088659
>You just purchase it and they ship 3 boxes and an STI test to your house
Ah that is a lot easier than I thought. But honestly I think I fucked up my sperm count, its still very clear and I never ejaculated that much pre-HRT.

>>43088723
You'd be surprised, with modern techniques they don't need that many viable sperm to make it work. They can narrow it down to individual healthy-looking cells and put them into the egg. If you look up sperm selection techniques you can see how it works. Since you're already two months off of hormones there's no harm in at least getting a generic fertility test to see if you've got anything to work with. If you're not, one or two more months off would probably be enough.

The only thing is that, if you opt for surrogacy eligibility, you gotta drop off the sample at Legacy within a week of getting tested, and you can only ship it monday through thursday. So what you'd want to do is get all three samples, get tested at a lab (specifically ask if their tests would make you eligible for surrogacy), and then make your donation right after. If you time it right you can deposit 1-2 samples in the window and be good, the third sample probably won't be eligible unless you get tested again. Personally I didn't bother since 2 samples is enough, as each sample is split and stored in separate locations.

>>43088758
>So what you'd want to do is get all three samples
by which I mean, the sample collection boxes. You'd deposit the sample and ship them within the 7-day post-test period, but they can be stored indefinitely aside from the transport fluid, which can be refrigerated for a couple of months.

>>43088758
Ty for the tips, I screenshotted. But desu that sounds like a lot and I am way too passive with my life. Ive never even tested my hormone levels lol. Also I live in my car and I'm too poor to make a yearly $500 payment x_x

>>43088800
>But desu that sounds like a lot and I am way too passive with my life
I can't tell you how to live your life, just offering advice
>Also I live in my car and I'm too poor to make a yearly $500 payment x_x
The forever bundle is a single payment that's good for 25 years, look for it on their website. I keep saying I'm not a shill, but it is genuinely the best deal you can get bar none in this scene.

>>43088811
Ty for the suggestion

>>43088396
yeah, just like anyone should be allowed to get an abortion under the condition they’ve frozen their eggs so they can still have kids! (I mean, they might not be able to if the abortion goes really bad, right?)

Bodily autonomy ftw!*

*of course, only if the person is still able to do what I want