No it's not weird but troons and chasers will try to pressure you to troon out anyway using the John50 rhetoric.

>>43076436
I don't think it's weird to believe this.
The current methods of transitioning are kinda shit and very luck dependant.
I personally am in the boat of feeling as though I should be a woman, but I am a man and so I have to live as a man - but to some degree I really like being a man.
If the opportunity arises where transition methods get really easy and it's guaranteed to be an attractive girl I can design from the ground up, I would do it in a heartbeat.
I feel quite optimistic in the fact that gender affirming care will get better purely because it is a trickle down from rich people trying to extend their life spans.
I don't care if this is in the form of cyborgs, genetic modification or whatever. It's bound to happen withing the next two decades.
Until then I am quite happy experiencing life as a pretty tall dude, but when the day comes where I can turn myself into a short stack baddie I will do it lol

>>43076556
what is the John50 rhetoric?
>>43076690
>to some degree I really like being a man
yeah same honestly it's so weird. I wish I were female but at the same time... I kinda like being a dude sometimes. I wish I could swap genders on the fly like a video game or something as lame as that might sound. Like if I could hop between different universes or something whenever I felt like it.

Eventually I did end up on hrt. I look way nicer, but still a dude.
iwnbaw but at least I'm more feminine and like myself quite a bit more.
We'll probably not going to live long enough to see easier and better methods of transitioning though.

Yeah I feel this. I'd rather kms than transition and not pass.

>>43076436
I don't even know if I have proper dysphoria
I experience some euphoria when I look in the mirror and see some feminine qualities in me, I sometimes have thoughts about transitioning and what would my life be like if I did, at the same time I have no genital dysphoria and next to none social dysphoria

they can't even cure hair loss. for thirty years the cure has been "5 years away"
probably the direction of trans rights will move toward accepting gender diversity rather than pressuring conformity as we have now seen where that leads. because there will be no new trans tech, trans rights activists pushed toward transing children. if there were more hope for positive outcomes post puberty, they wouldn't have had to do that. it's a direct result of passing pressure and that you have to pass as cis to be a valid woman. but transing children is very morally uncertain. the child can grow to regret it and be sterilized and, here is the big issue, sue the healthcare practitioners. once they can make this case, even if the child didn't grow out of dysphoria, they can collect a payday pretending to, or parents can trans their child on purpose and then sue the surgeons later, and so on. so the more likely direction now is that we advocate for gender diversity

>>43076436
take your HRT, retard

>>43076556
>>43076897
https://www.avitale.com/essays-details/?name=the-gender-variant-phenomenon--a-developmental-review-5

>>43077040
Transhumanism and post-genderism are unironically inevitable.
It's the next stage of evolution.
Somewhere among that is the ability to become a cure trans cyborg. I reckon within two decades personally, as this will be the fruits of the labour the global elite have been finding in their fight against nature and living longer.

>>43077086
yeah maybe. it will be super expensive though. more people every day are priced out of existing IRL vs online
imagine the cyborg shaming with IRL troon clankers lol

>>43076436
How many troons actually want to be troons?

>>43077046
nta, that was a great, but hard read. I didnt know John50 was an actual person. Really informative, I wish I found this when it was uploaded.

>>43076690
AGP brain.

>>43078067
>I wish I found this when it was uploaded.
same
I went the path of john 30, myself, and I have a hard time not kicking myself for not knowing better sooner

nobody cares jfc you're not special and being pathetic and whining doesn't make you any more interesting just do something about it or shut up

>>43076436
>>43076690
>If the opportunity arises where transition methods get really easy and it's guaranteed to be an attractive girl I can design from the ground up
dont you think normie cis girls would be getting on that train too? consider the bell curve and 20/80. how many of them think of themselves as unfuckable ogres?

>>43076436
>let me spend years of my life on HRT,
why not
>living in constant physical and mental anguish
why??
>all while consistently receiving verbal abuse from people around me
why?? just dont come out till you male fail
>and saving up money for gender-confirming surgeries (plural)
or you could just skip that and do the easy parts and feel better while going to therapy for your self esteem issues

>>43076690
I’ve been identifying as an AGP but then I read posts like this and realize that my current reality of weighing the choice between becoming a gigahon and finally putting a shotgun in my mouth might actually be completely different than this

>>43078067
Weird how they never give you statistics. Just describe a handful of men and don't talk about the ones who actually troon out at 50 and seem pretty happy. The ironic thing is that AGPs seem generally happier at this point in life and usually have had a relationship and or children to moor them. Whereas gay guys seem generally more regretful of trooning out and seem more prominent among detransers.

You will still crack someday

>>43077489
I mean, I dunno if I'd say I "wanted to be" but I did used to get jealous at transgender people, partly because they got to become cute girls but also just cause I admire the lifestyle

Actually transitioning now my opinions on this haven't changed. I think it's pretty badass and I wouldn't actually choose to have been born cis. We are unique people who make the world a more interesting place. We offer perspectives that are otherwise out of reach. And, of course, now that the world is targeting us, we are rebels by default, and I think that's neat. It's important to be proud of who you are, in its entirety, rather than thinking oneself to have a permanent deformity.

>>43076436
pretty common actually for afabs

>>43076436
Yeah I also thought this at one point but it delayed my transition by like 5-8 years

Do you want to die wondering what could have been? Do you want to be a coward?

>>43078747
>dont you think normie cis girls would be getting on that train too?
Of course they will. Ugliness will be removed from the world.
Bitches already are getting cosmetic surgeries. Only cosmetic surgeries will advance so much that they can change everything about themselves.
It's kinda just inevitable. It's going to happen within this century.

>>43078082
I don't think it's AGP, because I am adverse to sex in general, as frankly it's gross all around. I feel as though the female form is what I would be more comfortable with.
Fighting my own biology with the current methods however is not something I would be comfortable with.
It's better to just embrace your own masculinity until you can be a cute girl.

>>43076436
At first I didn’t want to be a trans women, I just wanted to have been born a girl. But then the dysphoria got worse and repressing the feelings became too hard so I started hrt and now I like being trans. But my body is ruined so it still hurts.

>>43077046
>take your HRT, retard
why don't you make me
>https://www.avitale.com/essays-details/?name=the-gender-variant-phenomenon--a-developmental-review-5
Honestly that was a pretty interesting read. I'm definitely in "group 3" though I definitely do not try to mask my dysphoria through homophobia or misogyny, I don't hate women in fact I love them a little too much.

The authour of this article is a trans woman so it makes sense they'd try to conclude by saying the only way to alleviate dysphoria is by transitioning. They have a personal stake in this argument. I on the other hand think I could easily just repress these feelings until the day I die. Transitioning just doesn't appeal to me at all.

>>43083287
>Transitioning just doesn't appeal to me at all.
It doesn't appeal to me because of the unsatisfactory result I'd get. But I can't deny it gives you at least something to do with this desire, instead of just drowning in it every day.

>>43076436
Move to a place that actually forces insurance coverage of trans healthcare. Then you can actually do hormones and surgeries and hair removal whilst not socially transitioning (although I know Europe is super restrictive on the requirements, so maybe they'd force you to transition socially). If you're in the US you could like move to California or some equivalent. I know that the public insurance for poor people in California literally covers everything. That's how everyone can transition where I live despite being very poor. Living your life as some male shell is not the answer. If you live in some shithole country, hrt repping will undoubtedly still make you feel better. Also yes transitioning, even with just hrt repping, will fix some degree of your problems. It has plenty of its own issues but pretending transitioning does nothing is repper cope. Stop being a coward.

>>43083912
what if i live in the UK

>>43084608
Almost guaranteed way to become a gigahon

>>43083287
Okay but how sure you are not going to be in the group of the 60+ aged people when their T is naturally gone, and are basically on a hon does of e?
>Short of that I don't believe that there is any in-between for me given my health, age, appearance, marriage and family. I believe now that I have to live my life as a gentle male and that is most comfortable for me. Not ideal but most comfortable
>Senior gender dysphoric males typically report they have been waiting, many since childhood in the hope that their desire to be female would simply "go away." Like those who are younger, they say in resignation that if they had known the dysphoria was going to remain such a strong force in their lives, they would have braved anything to face their dilemma decades sooner.

>>43076436
that scene from scooby doo was one of the things that gave me autogynephilia as a child.

i used to need to skip scenes like this because it would make me too depressed as a repper

>>43085484
it doesnt give you it it gives you awareness of it
>>43085443
what is this from

>>43086414
From that, "Older Adult"
>https://www.avitale.com/essays-details/?name=the-gender-variant-phenomenon--a-developmental-review-5

>>43087678
ty

>>43076436
yeah. yeah!! this is what happens to me!!! i feel like to be actually trans one has to do a hell of a lot of coping to feel somewhat okay that youre kinda getting there even though you never really will. they want you to be conformed with secondary sex characteristics which will supposedly "make people automatically perceive you as your gender" but upon closer inspection it always falls apart, especially if you already went through the wrong puberty. then you realize its not like you were gonna be any closer to it even if you started really young, you had to start from the womb.

the only people who were truly meant to be trutrans were exposed to the correct hormones in the womb and thats why it works for them, but for everyone else? its better to assume were just cis. as a dysphoric cis woman i consider my dysphoria to be just a typical hysterical woman mental issue as i have been exposed to the normal expected levels of estrogen in the womb. i was never meant to be trans. theres just a glitch in my brain that could theoretically be extracted if i ever found the right method