What exactly motivates HSTS to transition?
internalized homophobia
>>43077389I thought that problem got totally solved with legalized gay marriage?
>>43077437umno
>>43077446No, I'm pretty sure that's what happened. Gays can marry now. They have their rights. Homosexuality is publicly celebrated now.
How a man loves another man and how he loves a woman are just different. That's the crux of it.
>>43077378GENDERDYSPHORIA
I was gonna make a post supporting you but I changed my mind partway through, mostly because of the prevalence of hypersexual misogynistic transbians.To be frank there are bad motivations on both sides. Similarly, both sides have genuine trannies there who are doing it for the right reasons. Ultimately I would just say that people should be true to themselves and accept themselves for who they are, whatever that happens to be.
>>43077501that doesn't really mean anything specific>i feel like a woman not a man insideok I mean that's clearly your angle, it doesn't explain why you came to feel that way though
>>43077527That's not what it means. It means I literally cannot function as a man and would rather kill myself that live another day pretending to be something I'm not. You're talking about Gender Identity Disorder which hasn't been a thing for more than a decade.
>>43077527Who did you look up to as a man growing up
>>43077651>function as a manmaybe society treated gender non conforming men poorly homosexuality was classified as a disorder for many decades, I have no faith in psychiatry
bicus de dicus dicus de bicus de dicus
>>43077651yea I felt fake as hell trying to be a man, even tried the gay thing but nope
>>43077378Literally dick
>>43077677maybe you are bisexual
>>43077667I'm not a gender non-conforming man. I'm a woman with a pair of testicles that have destroyed my life. Having your life destroyed doesn't do much for your mood. Thus dysphoria (the opposite of euphoria) about my gender. >>43077677I never did the gay thing, but I thought about it. I just remember how much better I felt when I dropped the mask and just let myself be me.
>>43077711>I'm a woman with a pair of testicles that have destroyed my life.otherwise known as a gender non conforming man (feminine man)women are never born with balls
>>43077730I was. So your theory is obviously wrong.
>>43077730And btw, I conformed the shit out of being a man. I was GOOD at being a man. I wasn't just any man, I was an alpha. Other men fearrd and admired me. You can't change what you really are tho. And I'm not a man.
>>43077501Only AGP has gender dysphoria. If you're going to use the typology at least use it right
>>43077827are you an alpha trans now?
>>43077806you still areyour self perception is what's wrong>>43077827trannies have shitty social skills
>>43077845how are people like you going to cope when it's cheap and easy for anyone to modify their bodies?
>>43077844No. I'm a hideous ogrehon who's desperately lonely. >>43077845>You still are a woman born with balls I know. >trannies have shitty social skillsAutism and transgenderism go together like Americans and having a corrupt government.
>>43077868modify your skull and shoulders into female proportions
>>43077845>your self perception is what's wrongno your perception of us is wrong. I define I. you don’t define me.>trannies have shitty social skillsbro you literally post the same shit here nonstop every day because you have no life and no friends. you are literally rotting and wasting your life away trolling an image board every single day. biggest self-own i can think of. you will never get those thousands of hours back and are lagging further behind your peers every day. sad ass existence dude.
>>43077880Modify your skull into red splatter with a shotgun
Imagine spending your limited time on this earth obsessing over other people's gender and putting all that emotional energy into hate for no reason and zero tangible benefit to anybodyY'all are truly pathetic and the perfect example of why I'm a misanthrope.
>>43077918I define you as a feminine male.
>>43077944thanks for the validation dude!t. ftm who likes wearing makeup
>>43077878no you're not
>>43077966>I know everything and anything I don't know isn't realSweetheart that ain't science, that's religion. You have found something your theory of gender can't explain, that means your theory of gender is wrong. Changing the world to fit your theory has never worked even once.
>>43077986It’s just autism. I don’t mean that offensively. Gincel makes so much more sense when you understand that he actually has a learning disability and is genuinely autistic. There’s really no theory of mind there.
>>43078001No it's transgenderism. I have autism too. The part of the brain that processes gender is right next to the part of the brain that causes autism. Damage to one often means damage to the other through simple proximity, which is what bother autism and transgenderism are extremely rare (0.5% or 5 in 1000 people) but autism is extremely common amongst the transgender community and vice versa (estimates vary but between 1 in 10 and 1 in 3 people who are a member of either are a member of both). So it's not like we've just fucking invented this shit. The cissies have been trying to explain to me that I'm really a man for 100 years, you lost. And the only reason you're still trying is because you don't want to rewrite high school biology textbooks to explain the difference between neurological gender and genetic gender. But that's not my problem. I'm a a woman. An adult human female. With a Y-chromosome. Deal with it.
>>43078001Also I'm a published economist with an IQ of 162. I have two degrees and would have a PhD if it wasn't for gender dysphoria ruining my entire fucking life. I don't have a learning disability, I'm a hyper intelligent trans woman with autism.
>>43078032ur male and larping
>>43078055I WAS larping as a male. Now I just am female. When the evidence is literally explaining itself directly into your face it's time for a reality check. You're wrong. It turns out gender is actually a bit more complicated that you were taught in middle school health class by a repressed pedophile.
>>43077378because straight men and bi men are way way way more masculine than gay men. also gay guys are taught through socialization that theyre way less valueable and a lesser human than a straight man is so taking hormones and causing a straight man to be attracted to us is a huge "win"
>>43077378gay sex with straight men
>>43078032>>43078045I wasn’t calling you autistic and learning disabled. But now? Eh…
>>43077378im hsts and in my situation i just had a lot of jealousy every time my straight guy crushes flirted with and chose girls over me. as a gay boy to straight men youre just seen as a thing to play and flirt with when theyre bored, but theyll always leave you for a woman and that reality was too heartbreaking for me. i felt i was useless and that my body was useless to him too, which is when my gender dysphoria started. looking back i shouldve known that i couldve probably sucked his dick or be used sexually by many straight men im into (without much consequence, because as a woman now i fear coming off too slutty plus when you get used sexually its hard not to be emotionally hurt by it) and i wonder if that could have been enough for me to accept he wont marry me and find other things in my life to satisfy me. i know lots of other gays date each other, but any femininity was just such a turn off. maybe i could have done masc4masc, but then again maybe it would have felt too performative for me. cut to now, im completely transitioned and just got srs, so either way im satisfied and feel comfortable just dating whatever guys im into like a typical girl. in the end, i was always boy crazy since i was a child so i think this probably always was going to be my reality. it all feels very natural to me anyways and im proud of myself going through it
>>43078070>am femalelies>>43078081I appreciate this thoughtful answer.
>>43077378I'm bi so I don't really count as HSTS but for me it's because I love tall straight men and the way they fuhh
>>43078120Do you have a boyfriend
>>43078126nopeI just see guys casually
>>43078104>>43078097Why are you here tho?You ostensibly want to understand transgenderism, at least that's what the OP seems to want, but when it's actually explained to you you just reject all facts and stick your fingers in your ears. There's a way easier way to ignore all this shit, which is just ignore it. We don't actually need you to be on board, we just need you to leave us alone and not interfere with the medical care we need for the very very serious problems being transgender causes. In short, why are you even here? You can just go to /v/ or something and not be bothered by transgenderism at all.
>>43078167I would like hsts to admit they are fags in denial.
>>43078189hsts isn't a real thing so that ain't going to happen.
>>43078244tell that to Iran
>>43078248What's Iran's email?
shia@youvegotshemale.koran.com
>>43077378Gay men are not attracted to femininity, soe feminine gays dont want to pretend to be masc in order to not be alone.
>>43077389American acceptance of gay males was at an all time high when the troondemic started happening 10 years ago. Republican support for gay marriage even passed majority status. These men that choose to crossdress are doing it because they have a fetish for imitating women, and aren't gay.
>>43078308hotmales.com is still being sat on by a speculator like 30 years after the first time I checked.This is why we can't co-exist with Jews.
>>43078330>I came to a transgender space to explain what transgenderism is to transgender peopleMen really are dumb.
>>43078320The frustrating thing with dealing with skin walkers is that they're incapable of telling the truth. They'll tell you they're gay if they think it's going to help their cause. Other times they will tell you that they hate men and aren't attracted to men. Society should ban them because they are pathological liars.
>>43078345You ought to know Gary.
>>43078346>A dream I had about gay people didn't make any sense to meAnon... c'mon.
>>43078354Random.
>>43078103yea im hsts too and i feel the same way as this post thank you so much for sharing.yea we live in a straight world and we didnt fit into straight peoples rigid idea of what a man and woman is. it's really hard to find people similar to us. Its very traumatizing to grow up so different and thats why I love and relate to every hsts transgirl.. >>43078189theres many many gay guys who are feminine and dont transition and have zero interest in transitioning. its clearly a different thing.
>>43078377Or was it
>>43078379It's all horse shit. None of you are hsts as hsts are closer to women, and prefer to communicate through talking rather than nerdy essays online.
>>43078330>>43078346>>43078397i dont really get what the point of trolling is on an lgbt forum, you cant be this retarded.
>>43077378That's a dude probably straight and agp like me
>>43078442I'm not trolling you Mr I Dress Up as The Opposite Sex and Pressure Normies into Calling Me A Girl. This board isn't your private server or subreddit.
>>43078460Nta but that doesn't actually answer the question. You're allowed to be here, it just doesn't really make any sense that you are.
>>43078460i dont even dress as a girl unless its like summer. i just wear a hoodie and sweatpants most days unless im working and i always get called a girl and get hit on by guys.you dont even know what being trans is and just base it on memes of ugly crossdressers with no hrt.
>>43078507t. agp larper
>>43078484It doesn't make that straight men need to be a part of a community that has always represented alternative sexualities. Does it?>>43078507And then the entire bus full of sexy lesbians stood up and clapped
>>43078541It doesn't make sense that someone who is clearly uncomfortable with trans women would come to a trans space and deliberately provoke trans women into discussion even though you clearly have no interest in anything we have to say, and we're obviously not going to listen to you. What's really going on chuddie? Do you want some estrogen?
>>43078565I want the government to make trans people stop taking cross sex hormones.
>>43078524>>43078541omg u guys are so annoying. i dont get the point of trolling, being yourself is the best gift of all. theres nothing wrong with agp but ive never seen one who was pretty ever even in pictures.
>>43078575being trans is pretending you are someone elsetrans women are really men
>>43078574Okay, that's mean, but it still doesn't explain what you're doing HERE. This isn't the government, this is the autistic tranny shut-in forum. You don't like us, you're not alone on that one, but why do you keep trying to hang out with us?
>>43078610lgb people exist
>>43078565This isn't a trans space you moron it's the lgbt board. The trans space is when you leave the lgbt board and start your own space that is solely dedicated to men impersonating women and living a lie. There you go.
>>43078607but most hsts trans women who are not brainwashed by everything liberal are self aware of that fact. we just dont care and being trans is way way way better than being a guy in every way.
>>43078575Do something gay then idk
>>43078661because being trans is more accepted than being gay, people treat you better for pretending you aren't gay and being submissive
>>43078694by men yea, they will treat us way way better. but for women? no. most women are transphobic and hate trans women even if they pass. >>43078665no im not gay im hsts
>>43078741hsts do not post here. please accept that you are agp and move on.
>>43078741no, by women women are far more homophobic than transphobic
