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Overlooked reasons for FTM being more reported at gender clinics than MTF are:
>testosterone is a more controlled substance so it is somewhat harder to get without prescription
>higher necessity of top surgery for FTM than for MTF
That's literally it. These studies were cited as proof of ROGD in "girls" but the reality is that more trans women don't bother with gender clinics.
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>>43085242
They also love to interpret trans people leaving a clinic as them stopping HRT when in reality they're just changing to a different clinic or switching to DIY
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>>43085242
are there any studies that look at trans population by self report
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i thirst for one of my friends who looks like the woman on the left
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>>43085242
if anything this “”shows”” that more ftms medically transition
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>>43085242
OR the symptoms of PMDD and GD can be easy to confuse. They are both dysphoria and dysphoria is dysphoria (trust me I've had both). And when you're a teenage girl with hormones dialed up to fuck, and that week or two before your period is hitting you like a truck again and again and again. Meanwhile the boys are all turning into superheros. So "being a girl makes me feel sad, I wish I was a boy" is not actually gender dysphoria, it's a perfectly fucking normal reaction to living in a society that keeps trying to pretend there's no difference between boys and girls.

By 25 the hormones have calmed the fuck down, the girls have gotten unrestricted access to the pill and have learned to manage their health better, meanwhile the boys aren't literally able to jump off rooftops and just walk it off any more, and cisgender people are starting to find their place in adultland. Then the psudo-GD case has a chance to take a bit of stock and realize she's not just a girl, she's also a writer, a friend, a party animal, a councillor, a bitch, an artist. She's had a chance to figure out a style that works for her and she's got a respectable wardrobe, she's had a serious relationship or three and is thinking about starting a family or how to careermax.

And then when the monthly fuck you comes along she's got the tools to manage, and she's got the people around her who understand. She doesn't want to be a man any more, she just wants to be her and do her thing, and the PMDD is just a part of her life now.

Good thing we didn't cut her tits off because she didn't like having a period when she was 16.
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>>43085242
Also that female puberty starts earlier and fucks you up faster. Male puberty is slow and doesn't fully masculinize you until your 20s, so a lot of MTFs can wait until they're like 16 and it mostly just makes them end up growing taller than if they'd started younger, but not significantly clockier. But FTMs have to get on blockers by like 10 or 11 at the latest to avoid needing top surgery and not end up as a stunted manlet with a round little poonface and birthing hips.

>>43085453
What kind of larp is this. PMS fetish? See something new every day I guess.
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>>43085453
>she's not just a girl, she's also a bitch
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>>43085713
>What kind of larp is this. PMS fetish? See something new every day I guess.
Nope trans women can get PMDD, we don't get periods or menstrual cramps, we just get the mental illness part of having a female reproductive system.
Because fuck my life that's why.
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>>43085752
Yeah and? In reality not all women are saintly little princesses who shart sparkles and spread happiness and joy everywhere they go.
That doesn't make them not women, that just makes them imperfect like everyone else.

This is what perfertly normal cisgender people figure out in their 20s.
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>>43085796
I will use this line the next time I see a terf post where she proudly proclaims to be a woman
>you are not just a woman you are also a bitch
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>>43085812
If I may improve the prose
>Not JUST a woman! You're also a fucking bitch.
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>>43085827
I was thinking maybe it would sound better if you make it about biology somehow
>You are not just a biological woman, you are also a ____ bitch
Idk what could be used to fill in the blank
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>>43085827
I might have got something
>You are not just a biological women you are also an adult female canine
But I don't know if they would be able to get that I'm trying to imply they're a bitch
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>>43085948
Yeah that ain't it.
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>>43085972
I think I got it fr this time
>You are not just a biological woman you are also an estrous bitch
And she would have to look up what estrous means and then hopefully get mad
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>>43085771
What in the fresh hell are you talking about? >>43085453 is entirely weird fanfic about AFAB girls pooning out because they don't like periods (>implying testosterone would be easier to get than birth control pills), but now you're suddenly talking about trans women getting mood swings?
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>>43086069
ESL Moment?
>OR the symptoms of PMDD and GD can be easy to confuse. They are both dysphoria and dysphoria is dysphoria (trust me I've had both).
>Nope trans women can get PMDD, we don't get periods or menstrual cramps, we just get the mental illness part of having a female reproductive system.
MAYBE actually fucking read what I wrote >>43085453 instead of acting like you're being attacked.

The pill in many parts of the world can only be obtained by under 18s with a prescription and parental consent. Meanwhile PMDD is still often dismissed as teen angst or moodiness, when actually it's a serious fucking thing.

Meanwhile you don't actually have an explaination for the depooner problem. As many as 50% of AFABs presenting with Gender Dysphoria in adolescence go in complete remission with no treatment by the age of 25.

So there are a bunch of possible explanations for that, I'm offering a theory I haven't seen discussed before.
Because right now the going theory is they're just doing it for attention, but I don't find that satisfactory, most because as a result of this actual trans men are being denied care until much later than they otherwise would have been because depooners keep suing their doctors for providing it.

SO IT'S YOUR FUCKING PROBLEM DICKHEAD! DO YOU WANT HELP SOLVING IT OR NOT?!
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>>43086161
Shut up bitch
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>>43086161
Are you schizophrenic or something? The things you're saying aren't following a coherent train of logic.
>periods pms periods girls depooning pms girls periods
>trans women get pmdd too
>this explains ftms somehow
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>>43086271
>I'm actually fucking retarded.
1. CISGENDER GIRLS WITH PMDD ARE BEING FALSELY DIAGNOSED WITH GD
2. THIS IS AS MUCH A SOCIETAL PROBLEM AS IT IS A MEDICAL PROBLEM
3. PSUEDO-GD CASES MAKE IT HARDER TO PROVIDE GENDER AFFIRMING CARE TO ACTUAL TRANS MEN


Like how the actual fuck do you get from fakepoons exist to all periods mean all ftms are faketrans.
LEARN FUCKING LOGIC YOU FUCKING GIRL

Goddman you pooners need to get kicked in the fucking face till you learn to smarten the fuck up. If I had have walked around at your age talking and acting like you I'd have been hospitalized by my own crew.
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>>43085713
>Also that female puberty starts earlier and fucks you up faster. Male puberty is slow and doesn't fully masculinize you until your 20s, so a lot of MTFs can wait until they're like 16 and it mostly just makes them end up growing taller than if they'd started younger, but not significantly clockier. But FTMs have to get on blockers by like 10 or 11 at the latest to avoid needing top surgery and not end up as a stunted manlet with a round little poonface and birthing hips.
bdd ftms do not fucking live in reality
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>>43086403
Why are FTMs always trying to gatekeep like cucks to say they're the special girl that gets to be a boy pick me pick me. Retard. Are you 15 and crying because mom won't let you transition? Teenage girls aren't stopping you from transitioning. You're either a minor, too dependent on your parents, or living in a country that's so restrictive there's no teenage girls going on T because wahh period anyways.
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>>43086403
I live in England and no one is being diagnosed with gender dysphoria at all because no one is getting seen at all and we all have to pay out of pocket for DIY HRT and surgery with no financial support from insurance
So what now



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