being transgender is repression of the feeling of desire for strong protective dominant men. Being gay is the healthy outcome. Being transgender and gay is accepting one's homosexuality, while denying one is homosexual.Being AGP is denial of homosexuality, while exchanging sexual orientation for symbolically representing the self as being in the body of the correct sex to be sexual with men.All transgender persons are repressed gay men. Same with women, it's always repression of homosexuality.
ok
how do we get them to accept being gay instead of transition?
>>43096766why not accept being gay with transition, boobs are awesome
Nah its the opposite. Gays are just trans in denial
>>43096773I dont want boobs. They mean nothing to me. I'm genuinely grossed out by all the giant fake tits plastered over the media and shoved in my face.
>>43097149 transgender is not a natural state. It's a big compromise because you can't deal with your homosexuality
>>43097161tubies
>>43097373basedur doing the lords work anon
>>43096766I was a gay man for a long time before starting hrt.
>>43096555If you are reading this you should have hide the thread
>>43097793 I was gay too before transition and now I regret it
>>43097793>>43097841>im not gay anymoreso you've been cured?
>>43097885Only if you take no time machine back to 1950. Being hay is a hell of a lot more normal than being transgender
>>43097841Me too but I detrooned and it didnt get any better so I ended up taking it again>>43097885I want to get a lobotomy or something I think thatd cure me.
>>43097900says the person who doesn't accept being gay (ironic)
>>43098000Cuz we all have made mistakes. Except you you're probably the perfect person who's never made mistakes
>>43097980I wish I could have been on normal gay guy, but I had to be feminine to like men sexually
>>43098013I was never self hating about being gay. I've made lots of mistakes, but never that one. >>43098029um assuming you are gay and not a bisexual larper (far more likely), gay men are just fem from birth its not something you do or change, it's just part of who you are, inescapably, as a male
>>43098076I've always been attracted to males. I've never taken any interest in females so I don't understand even why I would desire to be one? It's just that I could never really get off sexually with a guy unless I thought of myself as a girl. I had such bad homophobia!
>>43098029I feel like its more that gay men don't like feminine men and bisexual guys just want to be dl and lead you on. Thats just what I experienced and needing to act masc doesn't make me feel any less lonely.
>>43098096because women are allowed to act feminine without being constantly judged and criticized
>>43097373How do you accept it tho
>>43098804let yourself talk in a fagcent around people you are scared of doing that with, tell people you are gay when you don't even know them all that well, do all the things society has been screaming at you not to do for so long, and see what happens
>>43098822I did this for years and it was the problem the problem was inside me I couldn't have sex with a man, unless I was seeing myself as a woman. >>43098804It didn't work out for me, that's why I transitioned
I'm trans and not homophobic.Uh oh!lmao ur a gay retard
>>43098859seems like you are laser focused on sex and whether others approve of you having it
>>43098879That's right, sex was the main issue
>>43096555i have never been attracted to a man, god knows i tried, but i genuinely experience zero attraction towards them, tried masculine men, tried twinks, tried femboys, nothing. went for women, immediate attraction
>>43098957but you still are a man who has sex with men, you are just insaneall you are doing now is lying to yourself>hurr its not that im not ok with being gay its that I can't have sex with other men as a mansame shit, different wording
>>43099076Why do you have such a problem with it?
>>43096555clearly it is your first day on this board so please, for the love of god, lurk moar
>>43099086ive watched a lot of gay people around me try to hide it and profess their love for women and it just makes me sad, I think the world would be happier if we always let men be with men as men
>>43098859So basically your issue was being unable to conceptualize yourself as a man instead of a woman during sex? Kinda relatable
>>43099230Yes I agree I was born and raised in the Bay area in California. No one cares if you are gay >>43099244Yes I think that's what it. I just always felt it was more like a girl in like a boy. I need someone stronger and more capable than myself.
>>43099287everyone cares if you are gay everywherethere are no magical zones where people don't think gays are lesser, there are just places where the abuse is quieter, more indirect, and more behind youy back
>>43099287Do you think it relates to what OP said?
>>43099301This place is probably one of the worst places to be gay The world Isn't reflected in this board. Most ppl don't care about one being gay, but they do being trans
>>43099344no, its just anonymous so people don't have to pretend to be ok with you being gay, they aren't, and will use it against you where convenient >most people don't careanon what do you think religion iswe have thousands of buildings devoted to pairing off men and women so they can fuck with "god's" blessing no gay marriages occur in 99% of religious spaces
>>43099311I believe it's true for gay males who desire transition. I don't know about agp. I don't understand agp?
>>43099368OP claims AGP are gay too
>>43099361I've never known anyone that was religious except for a few really old people. I don't live in a religious culture
>>43099379puritanical influence is all around us>religion isn't real>gays are lovedyou can stick your head in the sand but gays are not socially integrated into society
>>43099376>while exchanging sexual orientation for symbolically representing the self as being in the body of the correct sex to be sexual with menWhat does this mean? I'm not sure if I understand it
I like pretty feminine women and I want there to be more pretty feminine women, it's really simpleWhat's gay about that?
>>43099287>I was born and raised in the Bay area in California>Pseudoscientific vaguepostingname a more iconic duo
>>43099384They are extremely integrated in my Society. There's no difference between gay and straight anymore as far as social acceptance
>>43099417I don't understand what you're getting at now?
>>43099402it is unquestioned for women to be attracted to men, men attracted to men are seen negatively as dirty, perverted, predatory etc.
>>43099440Oh, what country do you come from? . ..hasn't been like this in a hundred years
>>43099402I'm not OP but I think their point was> You're a submissive gay guy.> You live as one> You transition as a cope and still like men (HSTS)>You transition and repress your orientation (AGP)Altho AGP are often bi and might even end up liking only men at some point but idk
>>43099434You're privileged and dumb.Lurk moar, don't say shit like>american culture is not religiousNobody who's ever had a single independent thought in their lives is gonna take you seriously.
>>43099453United Statesdenying other people have experienced homophobia doesn't make it so admitting homophobia still exists means admitting it might have influenced you to "transition" so you just deny it wholesale
>>43099453You are so easily fooled by doublespeak it's actually both hilarious and deeply alarming about the absolute ignorance of progressives all around the world.Holy shit
>>43096555I just wanted a faux-heterosexual gay relationship and everything escalates from there....
>>43099464>You're a submissive gay guy.> You live as one> You transition as a cope and still like men (HSTS)This I agree with. I believe most gay men are playing a game saying that trans women are the feminine people, not them and sex and gender are separate issues, which is not true sex dictates genderI don't know about agp.
>>43099095naw this is the kind of content someone stews up after being on the board for 20 years.
>>43099468Hey I believe what I believe. If you don't like it that's your problem I'm not going to listen to some bullshit from some crazy right winger
>>43099504It's common for AGP to end up with men sometimes even stopping liking women so it's possible OP is onto something.
>>43099475I don't believe it was part of my decision now cuz I lived in San Francisco at the time and it was easier to be gay than any other sexuality for young male. Being transgender was very difficult
>>43099513I'm not sure I understand the repression and then dressing up issue?
>>43099507Fine, maybe a week. This is the kinda edgy gincel shit that attracts trvgay discordfags dipping their toes into the piranha water this place is like flies to a street lamp.
>>43099541Did this upset you so much you had to pull up the newfag card?
>>43099512>says >>I believe what I believe>thinks he's not religiousYou gotta back your claims up a lil bit better bro this wilful, handwavy, knock your fists on the table shit just makes you seem even dumber.You are extremely easily exploited and manipulated I just think you should be made aware of that.
>>43099569 I'm not religious I don't believe in anything other than we are the same as animals, or insects. We die when we die, there's nothing else.
>>43099567It doesn't upset me it's just boringEverybody knows trannies are gay.Let people talk anonymously and they will overwhelmingly say they think trannies are hyperfags if they understand what anonymity means. It's just not novel, but sounds edgy to some people. I prefer novelty.
>>43099591Religion as a concept is not just the Abrahamic god anon
>>43099599I don't care what it is. I have no interest in religion. I told you I grew up in a liberal culture. I'm a liberal woke person
>>43099615>I don't care what it isSpoken like a true believer. Your gods are wokism and money. You dare not question them.
>>43099402i think its saying agps are gay but instrad of acting on it they satisfy the gay desire simply by becoming women. i can see this making sense. if they think only women belong with men then they obsess about becoming a woman but because they will never be a woman they can never be with a man so they settle with being a transbian which is just gay with extra steps but also skirts the issue of homophobia because being a non passing woman with a man reminds them they are a man with a man which triggers the homophobic dysphoria.
>>43099621Now you're acting like a pathetic little adolescent
>>43099626What would be the solution then?
>>43099628Stay compliant dude!You're a lost cause...
>>43099626My best understanding, yes, transbians are a type of homosexual. I think it's more like they believe they can become women and so by being women they can accept being attracted to another woman because they're not as homophobic about lesbians. This is the best I understand it
>>43099654Most transbians end up with other transbians too
>>43099640I think you just want to suck on my titties
>>43099661Ewww stop projecting your fantasies onto me I only suck my bf's cock and extra sour vodka sodas through a glass straw
>>43099694Okay, stop your bullshitting with me
>>43099714Top kek @ you for having to think I'm bullshitting to be able to of ignore the magnitude of truth I'm saying
>>43099635solution for what? the homophobia?>>43099654yes this is what it looks like. if they are gay but homophobic and super closeted, then being lesbian instead is a safer, less painful way to be gay without being gay in the way it hurts (masc4masc). especiall t4t. what was before homophobia, which is deeply imbued according to people itt, is replaced with transphobia which even if objectively worse its subjectively something more defeatable or surmountable.
t4t is gay everybody knows this
>>43099739See, I know you were an adolescent! You can't stop playing around with me
>>43099742The need for transition
>>43099752I can't stop myself from arguing with retards it's true
a world without homophobia would be a world without trans peopleat least somewhere along the way, when you told someone you were or wanted to be a woman, nobody responded "that's silly you are gay and I support you as gay", and that spiraled out because others wanted to pretend you weren't gay either. Others enable autistic homosexuals to larp this way, it isn't just them being islands.
>>43099742I think I agree with you, but I do not understand the last part of what you were saying?I believe any man who says he's attracted to a female, even if he wants to transition to a woman, would still be a heterosexual male.
>>43099751i didnt know that. i think with cis les its gay too. especially if the cisles dont want the dick involved, that must be a dream come true for a closeted gay.>>43099761im not sure. even if this thread is true, its only putting words to forces more powerful than any of us individuals. theres only so much you can do.
>>43099775>t4t>cis lesbruuuuh
>>43099775Like in theory I don't have any issue with being a gay man but I can't be with a man as a man
>>43099789>I don't have any issue with being a gay man>I can't be with a man as a manPLEASE BE A BOT PLEASE BE A BOT PLEASE BE A BOT PLEASE BE A BOT
>>43099789gay men are men who like men as menwanting to be a woman if you only like men is functionally the same as not wanting to be gaywhat's awkward is you will never be a woman, so really you are just saying you will crossdress and never admit to being gay out loud and want closeted gay partners willing to also hide their gaynesstransgenderism is just a new repressive closet for self loathing homosexual men
>>43099784lol im gay, idk transbian culture. sorry>>43099773i cant imagine a heterosexual male wanting to transition to a woman? even the ones who did it to go to female prisons or to win at womens sports had something off going on with them.
>>43099806okay, so imagine t4t as a fem4fem gay relationship actually, you don't even have to imagine it, it is just that.two vain, broken, fruity gay guys bodymodding like crazy, fucking each other in the ass, frotting, sucking their dicks.of course they'd rather say they always were women than admitting it. It's shunned upon to be that.
>>43099798My point is that it's not a conscious decision lol >>43099803I don't think I'm exclusively attracted to men
>>43099789is it their expectation for you to be manly?
>>43099806I can't imagine a heterosexual male wanting to be a woman either, but then again, I'm not a heterosexual male. I've been gay all my life, now I pass as a woman, but I'm still a gay guy
>>43099826But they're probably really happy to live it out there life exactly like they wanted to
>>43099832I prefer a relationship with a man having heterosexual dynamics, so dating men as a man didn't really work for me
>>43099829>bisexuals can't have internalized homophobia because they like womenalso a lot of gay men lie to themselves and tell themselves they like women to feel more normal >>43099832my grandfather was very macho, whenever we visited he told war stories and dirty jokes and hammed it up by trying to offend the females in my family and as a little gay boy it was made clear the expectation was that I would be manly to even though my grandfather really wasn't that masculine and I wonder if he was hiding being gay since he wasn't really lovey dovey with his wife at all she was more like an object to display to prove he was normal
>>43099829yeah dummy your subconscious has absorbed the constant barrage of homophobia you have been subject to your entire life.it's like saying I chew my nails when I'm stressed and ever since I stopped getting stressed I stopped chewing my nails.You weren't a 'nail chewer', you were simply overstressed
>>43099853Idk it would have to be unconscious because I'm not actively repressing
>>43099847Of course there should be even LESS shame around that it's the only way to demolish the t4t closet.
>>43099863I think what it is many people like me had quietly homophobic childhoods in "liberal" areas where theoretically being gay was accepted but wasn't talked about, and if it was, in a very forced way that made it clear they didn't actually feel that way and were just paying lip service. It's more the subtleties of feeling left out of socialization, being picked on, and realizing you don't fit in with boys or girls as a gay boy. It doesn't have to be people beating you up or calling you faggot or something that explicit, and there's really no way to fight back against implicit homophobia so it makes people go insane and make cope worlds where they belong.
>>43099880Precisely. You think anon. I like people that think.
>>43099872I do know older trans who are t4t.
>>43099888theres still no solution and it its often better to transition when its possible though.
>>43099896Yeah they grew up in even more homophobic environments so it only makes sense for t4t to be more common among older people.
>>43099869I went a long time trying to believe I was attracted to women and it feels silly in retrospect but I really wanted to believe I could be for a long time. And it's not like people are shouting YOU NEED TO LIKE WOMEN, it's just obvious when you are 11/12 and boys are pairing off with girls that you are expected to do that too and it would be very odd if you showed sexual interest in other boys. >>43099888It has taken years of processing to get to this point. And I was forced into psychiatry cuz I was "mentally ill" which just means I act gay and they hated that and wanted me to repress and pretend to be athletic with other boys (never was gonna happen). Nobody will accept that you got tortured for being gay, they will blame you, your actions, your personality, say you aren't introspective, but if you act gay, even a little, you are a huge target because humans are socially very competitive and hierarchical and gays cannot exist at the very top of the social hierarchy and realizing that as a very smart gay boy was crushing. I like people who think too. So many here just go "I must be a woman" and smother all other introspection that doesn't dovetail with that perspective. I mean, yeah, I'm gay, I act a bit more like a woman than most men, and people hate me for that. But that's not my body's fault. It's societies fault for granting women a monopoly on feminine expression.
>>43099863What am I supposed to do about it?
>>43099880For me, it was accepted for anyone except anyone in our family. Being the one queer kid was very humiliating!
>>43099911I already knew as a kid that being gay would cause me problems and that I wasn't supposed to like girly things. I vividly remember that
>>43099903The solution is to let these guys inject as much estrogen as they want and dangle some juicy cocks in front of their faces for them to suck while having a death metal song where a guy just screams>YOU DONT HAVE TO BE A WOMAN TO ENJOY THISplaying at 100db for four+ hours straight
>>43099921I wonder how much of my family is just quietly gay/bi and just a lot more willing to repress than I am. They are very big on keeping secrets. >>43099924When I was little I grabbed a "my little pony" figure on my sister's dresser and remember my mom telling me that was for girls. My mom denies this. My mom denies being at all homophobic. They won't admit what they do, but that shouldn't, mustn't stop you from calling them out on it. They won't change until we fight back. Transition is giving into homophobia and saying you will just go along with gender roles.
>>43099911Be blessed anon.You are a light in the dark!Keep telling people about this. It's really important. Thank you for writing it out even once
>>43099951You aren't on hormones?
>>43099926that MIGHT fix me, id be willing to try.
>>43099972You should, it's amazing bro. Some good dicking around fixed me right up
>>43099958appreciate that you appreciate me, I feel largely unappreciated but honestly sometimes people reacting strongly to me, even negatively, is a sign I am having an impact. I think for thousands of years gay men have been submissive and it has gotten us nowhere. >>43099968genuinely never even thought about taking them, just seems like a self-harm thingI like using my dick and never had an issue with that.
>>43099989You don't experience dysphoria then?
>>43099989okay, so when they start reacting negatively, it's a good sign as you already noticed, you got their attention and their emotions are whacked outta control.This is the time for you to let out the catty gay bitch. Because you're a thinker, you can just say nuh-uh babe I'm right and keep owning them.They need to stay emotionally invested, agitated. This is when their subconscious is laid bare and you will be able to scream right into it.
>>43099989I think homophobia and femphobia in the gay community had a big impact on my own self perception and the feeling that being a gay man was wrong
>>43100011I mean I am aware of how much better women are treated than me, a gay flamer, and yeah, that's frustrating but I've never blamed my body for that or hated my male frame. That stuff just seems autistic and I don't get it. You aren't gonna fix social homophobia by changing your body cuz its NEVER gonna be truly good enough for the people who hate you and the acceptance they give you is conditional and cursory, they don't REALLY accept you they are just happy you aren't trying to be dominant. Women's WORST FEAR on earth is dominant flamboyant gay men controlling the social hierarchy. Because in such a world they would have no power and would have to actually be honest and earn their keep. >>43100016I've been doing this my whole life and it feels like a prophecy. Everywhere I go I piss people off and they tell me I'm a bad person and it's all my fault but I can't help but feel I'm just being myself and they are the problem. >>43100026I can't bring myself to feel being a gay man is wrong because I kinda like being different and I like being fem - its like I'm in touch with my emotions and I'm a healer, and people just aren't using my capacity appropriately.
>>43096555There are some AGP that still end up with men without transitioning, but the AGP doesn't go away
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>>43100058Kys gincel>>43099911Ultrakys gincel>waaa waaa muh fag fantasies are real because i heckin said so!! Anus is a sexual organ you troonchuds!! Homofobiiaa!!!!Flamerism should be scanned for in childhood and quietly euthanized>>43098000Faggotry should not be accepted>>43098076>gay men are just fem from birthCope for being a fetishist meffy
I'm glad people enjoyed this thread. I sincerely believe, for mals, all forms of transgenderism is related to male homosexuality. Think about it, studies on brain sex show that gay men and transgender women both have feminine brains, yet there's more evidence for homosexual men. When you combine the two, it shows even greater evidence. Couple this with the idea that homophobia is such a extreme issue, it is indeed reasonable to assume that it's possible that homosexuality, when repressed, can be sublimated for another manifestation, where the individual does not feel homosexual, yet does feel like a woman.It's as if something in the brain tells him it's more tolerable to be a woman, than a male homosexual.
>>43100859Kill/force transition all "male homosexuals">bullshit i made up is le tru ackshuallyZuckerpedo would love you
>>43099850what are heterosexual dynamics?
>>43103296man is dominant, woman is submissive, trannies believe in binary relationshipsman does physical choreswoman looks pretty
>>43100058None of that really encompasses dysphoria
>>43103742your brain is made of mush
>>43103776Lmao
>>43100817least deranged homophobe
>>43104546Who is the most deranged homophobe?
>>43105264david foster wallace
>>43105294really? I had no idea. I just thought of him as a cringe try-hard writer.
>>43096555I disagree with the AGP part. I am attracted to women too much to be just gay.
>>43105778anthony perkins and rock hudson both married women then died of AIDS
>>43105795How is that relevant to me? I guess they had both attraction to men and women?
>>43105675i made it up but there are actually allegations lol
>>43105834lots of people are gay and loudly proclaim their attraction to women
>>43105931I have never masturbated to photo of any man or gay porn video. Not once.
>>43105947lots of gay men only let themselves fap to women as well, this isn't unusual, society REALLY hates gay men the kind of gay men who transition are also the kind to be loudly self hating and to proclaim how much they love women - they want to not be seen as social outcasts
>>43105947wow
i exclusively fap to men, self inserting as the woman or botom, am.i gay?
>>43105967I never had a crush on man. Nobody can repress sexuality that much, I am telling you that as AGP repressor.
>>43106011some people go their whole lives without ever saying "I am gay" or "I like men" to themselves aloud, my theory is trannies, being autistic, are EXTRA sensitive to social pressure because it seems hyper-real to youAGP boils down to "I want to get fucked as a woman"how do women get fucked"penises in their holesyou want penis in your hole, its just gay shit with extra steps so you can feel mentally less bad for wanting penis
>>43106096AGP for me is all about being a woman. I can masturbate to fantasy of just walking through nature as a woman.
I am attracted to women's personalities, but my only sexual urge is to get dicked down like a bitch in heatkinda makes it hard to find a relationship, ya kno?
>>43106124kiss other boys
>>43106141No, my plan is to get off to AGP fantasies until I die.
>>43106096>everything is gay repressionYou're projecting, hardI have never imagined myself getting fucked, not as a woman, not even once
>>43106150anon this is the gay board, if calling everyone who comes to the gay board gay is wrong, well then I don't wanna be gay anymore>you accused someone who wasn't really gay of being gayyou mean like how society tries to violently ensure that homosexuals repress and marry the opposite sex?im pissing in an ocean of piss, there's far, far more pressure to hide being gay than to be out and open if you were hiding it, if I'm overzealous, the better for it
>>43106140>I am attracted to women's personalitiesstraight men say the opposite
>>43106176If you want to be silly as some sort of personal vendetta then go right ahead, just don't expect to be treated very seriously
>>43106184>straight men say the oppositeDon't fall for shit you see in media. Any form of popular media, or public figure, you see is only popular because they are abnormal.
>>43106197nobody takes gay people seriously anyways, I might as well fight for what's right, and against sexual repression
>>43106353its regular guys who say that they hate womens personalities. and its a common trope that they will go for trans women because its "the best of both worlds" male socialization + fem body
>>43106373Holy shit you need get off the internet kid. Your perception of reality has gotten extremely corrupted. That shit makes no sense to anyone other than people who post on this website. Not even other trans spaces would understand you
>>43106409thats what guys in a group chat said, what is this gaslighting? you are sperging out, its an age old american trope that straight men just want to fuck their wives and not deal with their personalities, and that they have gay besties for that.
>>43106455Dude you're falling for shit you saw on a sitcom in 2008. You think King of Queens is a fucking documentary about Americans and not just a comedic exaggeration of an abnormal lifestyle. You are fucking retarded.
>>43106521you are really triggered because i said straight men are sexually attracted to women and not into their personalities. the most common misogynistic opinion from men is that women have shit personalities.your internalized homophobia reeks
>>43106521transgenderism is a comedic exaggeration of how homosexuals sound and act
>>43106547>the most common misogynistic opinion from men is that women have shit personalities.From a slim margin of crazy men that end up getting the most attention because what they are saying is crazy and abnormal.And you're using that to convince yourself that all men have the same feelings, and that trans women are somehow more desirable to them because of that. None of that is tru, and it's just a product of you being terminally online and gullible/impressionable. Genuinely go talk to real humans in the world and not just stuff you see on the internet, you are losing touch with reality.>>43106554>transgenderism is a comedic exaggeration of how women sound and actFtfy
>>43106666i just think:>I am attracted to women's personalities, but my only sexual urge is to get dicked down like a bitch in heatis pretty standard gay/bi/queer experience. sorry for coming off rude. the term for understand yourself is split attraction model, and you would be heteroromantic & homosexual.
>>43106666trannies don't act like women though
>>43106811>the term for understand yourself is split attraction model, and you would be heteroromantic & homosexual.I know this and am clearly very frustrated with it lol. I don't think liking women's personalities is a good way to determine that someone's gay. I think it's proven to just encourage straight guys into hating women as a way to seem more straight or masculine.>>43107000No, they act like a comedic exaggerated version of women.
>>43107154>No, they act like a comedic exaggerated version of women.girl, nobody believes you
>>43097161Tranny or not those got to go, holy shit.
>>43107154> I think it's proven to just encourage straight guys into hating women as a way to seem more straight or masculine.this is a good point >I know this and am clearly very frustrated with it lol.sorry >I don't think liking women's personalities is a good way to determine that someone's gay.right it was just that combined with the 2nd part but ya youre rightbest luck anon i will take your advice to heart
>>43106367 you want to fight for the rights of?I have news for you. You hate gay people. Most people don't hate gay people. It's in your head, you hate gay people, you're the homophobe in this conversation
>>43108202>Most people don't hate gay peopleyeah they do
>>43108220No they don't most men are tolerant of gay men unless they hit on them and most women actually like gay men more than they like straight men. If you are all aware or a little more grown up, you'd realize this
>>43108268>No they don't most men are tolerant of gay ment. person who doesn't live as a gay man
>>43108282Honey, I've been gay most of my life. I know what I'm talking about.
>>43108301>im not gay anymore, but being gay is toleratedthis sort of exchange always makes my head explode, which I assume is the point
>>43108301wdym "most of [your] life."?
>>43108421he thinks he's escaped gayness and "become a woman"
>>43108511yikes
>>43108600tell me about it
