i dont like how demonized bpd is, or at least how people think every person with bpd is a "bpdemon"ill give an example99% of the time, when i spiral it stems from feelings of betrayal, being cheated on, led on, etc. and it results in me being a self hateful crybaby that pushes everyone away. if any insults are thrown, they're directed at my self.yet, i still can't shake the feeling guilt for days if not weeks after for pushing someone away.I don't push others away just to push them away or hurt them. I genuinely feel like they're too good for me, that I'm not enough and they have better people to spend time with, etc.
People are hostile to bpders because they do real damage to people around them. Yes you're in pain but you hurt people and they don't like that
>>43122159Are you MTF? Straight or bi?
>>43122177I don't blame them, but I really don't intend on hurting people. I'm sorry.
>>43122178yeah, why?
>>43122159>genuinely feel like they're too good for meI don’t know you so I can’t speak for anyone hurt by you, but when a loved one with bpd has done this, the reasoning did not matter. It was still abuse. And a lot of people are victims of people with bpd who refuse to seek treatment for it and end up abusing people close to them, so you get a lot of victims coping with anti-bpd rhetoric.
>>43122159>I genuinely feel like they're too good for me, that I'm not enough and they have better people to spend time with, etc.story of my lifenow i just avoid people mostlycan't push people away if you have nobodyat this point my only "friends" are whoever has a tap on my phone
>>43122235I'm trying my best. nowadays i don't spiral out of nothing, it's entirely revolving around what i mentioned, but how badly i spiral depends on how close the person to me is.Long story short im stable so long as my boundaries that revolve around loyalty/trust are respected
>>43122159Liar you're horrible to people purposefully
>>43122159I dont think you fully grasp how much bpd people hurt people, like I think you’re probably being a bit dishonest, because it’s kind of hard to push people away without hurting them.
>>43122159im sorry i dont have anything useful to say about this but i really love soupsoup and i was happy to see her on the board. i also worry about this stuff and i want you to be happy. i hope you have a nice day nona
>>43122582when I push someone away I mean unfriending them or blocking them. that's it
>>43124618and like I said. I don't have ass-pull spirals anymore. It's always related to what I said in the post (feelings of betrayal and etc.) I'm sorry for pushing people away, but then again, if they didn't betray me, I wouldn't have spiraled at that time.
>>43122235>losing your job doesnt matter, murdering your wife and kids is still abuse
>>43124903This post broke my brain. Good work anon.Is it meant to be sarcastic and anti-ing the previous reply by increasing the intensity of the statement? If so, why is the example used eminently reasonable?Is if meant to be agreeing with the quoted post? If so, why is it bringing up irrelevant claims like "losing your job"?It straddles the line between pro/anti so indistinguishably. Is it actually meant to be a complete non-sequitor? Just an absolutely middle-of-the-road take that an anon thought of while reading the quoted post? Then why use a quote post?Is this just meant to be a zip-bomb for people who overanalyze the context of a post, and ignore the very straightforward literal interpretation?
>>43124978You demonize bpd while forgiving every neurotypical evil fuck. It's kinda like how trannies are hyperscrutinized for behaviors that is considered completely normal for cis people.
BPD isn't a neurodiverse condition lmao
>>43125006Oh so you are saying its completely normal to be a "bpdemon"? Why the demonization then?
>>43124995Bpd behaviours are strongly disapproved of in everyone you little weirdo
>>43124995But everyone generally agrees that murdering your wife and kids is absolutely and unambiguously femicide and gender-based violence that is unforgivable under any circumstances, and at most "explainable" by other factors (which do not excuse it).Like, if you have the impression that ANYONE thinks that femicide is ever forgivable, you... just fundamentally don't understand society around you and what other people believe.
>>43125010No, but personality disorders aren't the same kind of thing as autism you big silly
>>43125015>Bpd behavioursrules for thee but not for mee is what the neurotypicals say
>>43125010You're desperately searching for a way that your actions aren't your fault and use a label for people who genuinely aren't bad people but are bad at social interactions as an excuse for your shitty and fully conscious actions. Stop making excuses for acting like a dick
>>43125026A guy who murders his kids and wife is rehabilitated after a few years in prison and nobody calls him a demon who literally needs to die. Ive seen how the world works your lies wont work on me
>>43125026I'm getting the impression that bpdanon sees themselves as some kind of unjustly persecuted victim.
>>43125033You are desperately searching for a way where my actions are bad and I'm an evil demon who is going to eat your soul. You don't know me so, like, why are you doing this?
>>43125036Yeah people love released murderers.Deranged
>>43125051You're not evil, you just hurt people and don't see a problem
Total bpdemon death. You are insane and hurt the people around you. The pain you feel from people wanting nothing to do with you pales in comparison to the pain you and people like you deal.Total bpdemon death.
>>43125054They do. Even serial killers get love letters in prison. You have no idea how much love there is for them
>>43125060tell me what do you think reading things like this feels like to someone with bpd >>43125066Answer: it hurts. I'm sure you don't see a problem with that, anon. I wonder why?
>>43125036Uhhhh... Literally a ton of people want the death penalty for shit like this. Like, murdering children is 100% the kind of thing conservatives want the death penalty for.And even if you are talking about people who do believe in rehabilitation and reintegration into society, the point is that they spent years in prison. Have (you) spent years in prison for anything you did? Not some fake-ass mental prison shit you insist you are experiencing, but actual, verifiable, social restitution. Because the premise behind the justice system is that it's a public institution. It's a way for the community to visibly see justice being done."I felt really bad about it, I promise!" is not actually what people are looking for. They are looking for actions that demonstrate justice.
>>43125040Because that's exactly how bpdemons perceive themselves. It's always coded in the way they talk about the problems they've created for themselves, the OP post is textbook "oh the world is so mean to me specifically, I have this vague sense that it's my fault really but here's a bunch of reasons why my actions are justified anyways>>43125051Half your OP is literally justifying to yourself that you shouldn't feel guilty about the shitty things you do and you phrase it in such a way that your emotions are actually someone else's fault
>>43122159I wouldn’t assume someone with bpd is intentionally malicious, but I don’t think I’d have the fortitude to deal with a close relationship with someone with it again. I’ve had a few friends with bpd over the years, and my last long term partner had it plus ptsd and a bad drinking problem stemming from abuse. They’re all lovely people, but being close to them took a real toll on me, and I think whatever reservoir of patience and stamina I had is used up at this point.Gl with your own relationships, I’m glad to hear you’ve found some effective coping strategies. I really do think people with bpd are as worthy of love as anyone else, I’ve just personally had to tap out.
>>43122159>>43124634So you schizophrenically imagine you're being betrayed and then you push people away?
My aversion to bpd comes from an extremely painful relationship situation and you can't convince me any of that behaviour was normal
>>43125083>you phrase it in such a way that your emotions are actually someone else's faultohhh haha and yet it's my fault that you hate "bpdemons" lol, fuck you!
>>43125102I don't hate anyone man. Im just calling you out and you react by projecting what you think I think about you instead.
>>43125102>yet it's my fault that you hate "bpdemons"Yes. If how you interact with others didn't make it absolutely obvious you have BPD, no one would call you a "bpdemon" and you wouldn't have to feel bad about it.Mask better.
>>43125114call your mom
>>43125090I don't think something someone does is schizophrenic imagination..?
>>43125129Probably will later. At least I'm still on speaking terms with her and didn't project a bunch of my emotional baggage onto her lmfao
>>43125124I will never mask again. I'm done believing your manipulative demonizing bullshit. OP, I suggest you adopt the same attitude instead of bending over backwards for people who hate you
Get medicated and manage it every day for the rest of your life PLEASE. Oh my god bpd people are the worst
>>43125149Enjoy being alone. Obviously you're perfect, everyone else is the problem.
>>43125146like always you just demonize me to keep the hate train going. lmao what a fucking hero.
>>43125130Your phrasing in the op makes it sounds like you just feel like they betrayed you, not that they actually did anything
>>43125093How bad was it?
>>43125149sorry I didn't read the whole argument. it's too messy and chaotic T_T all I could make out of it is you two bickering over something about a wife and children..? XD
>>43125164Sorry. I'll try and phrase things better next time
>>43125166When she wasn't telling me she'd never fallen in love with someone so fast she was physically violent or pushing me awayAlso probably cheated but that's a suspicion not proven
>>43125172That's fine I'm just saying, you dont need to please people that already have it in their head that you are an evil demon. They will make it sound like you need to earn their approval but you dont actually need to.
>>43125182yeah she's at fault then, and that, is an actual bpdemon. Physical violence, insults, etc.
>>43125189honestly I think my sense of self worth is a little wacky, hence why I often feel like I have to prove I'm an Okay at least person T_T
>>43125182Please don't tell me you're still dating
>>43125216Hahaha no she decided to dump me via text over me telling her it was fine that she was too busy to see me one dayI've got a mentally well boyfriend now
>>43122159When i am "up" i have a kind of mania where i spend a lot of money and do a lot of stuff i wouldnt normally do. And then when i come down i angst about it a lot and do nothing for weeks
>>43122159>BPD: being a jealous flippant stuck up loud mouth bitchthis is just called being a hot woman.its an exaggeration of normal female tendencies. tbqh i am surprised more women don't have this problem.you can win a medal of honor and a Nobel prize and be a billionaire, you will still not receive as much praise, kindness, and attention as a 9/10 in a crop top walking about town in the spring.troons can't be authentically bpd, they can only larp as bpd.
>>43125162Oof guess I hit a little too close to home huh
>>43125252uhhh... I feel like ur romanticizing bpd in a way. shoo
>>43125243Ahh i was reading BPD as bipolar disorder. I leave now
>>43125260he is a real fucking hero he is real fucking proud of himself
>>43125272im not a tranny, im a straight man who came here to see /tttt/'s reaction to the noem's wife thing and saw this thread.i am correct thoughbeit.every symptom of BPD is female behavior turned up a few notches. it's a natural extension of normal inclination and only happens when a female can get away with it by being hot. troons lack the 800 social media likes per post and constant society wide worship required to develop such a condition, and only LARP as BPD because they recognize that a great many of top 1% women act BPD.
I'm a guy with BPD and have recently separated myself from my friend groups after embarrassing myself for over a year. My mental state had been getting too bad. Right now I'm just trying to focus on myself and recover in a lot of aspects of my life. I do recognize the immense harm I delivered and I recognize the harm that was done to me in hindsight, but there's little to be done about that when I haven't changed. I'll become a better person.
>>43122159it's basically the modern day "female hysteria" diagnosis, but a lot of people with the dx. do play into it like 'grippy sock silly girls club haha' being volatile on purposeyou don't have to tell anyone you have bpd, you can put in conscious effort to not behave stereotypically if you're aware of yourself in the moment, it gets easier the more you do iteventually there'll come a time where you don't (outwardly) identify with its traits, so things like this don't hurt you
>>43125333relax. never questioned ur gender it's okay.not familiar with the noem's wife thing desu..? and by what ur saying, i can only think you thought I was a cis girl.WELL, CLOSE ENOUGH IN EVERY ASPECT... except for the fact I'm pre-op :/but hey I plan on picking up a cashier job and hopefully in a year or 2 I'll achieve hetslop freedom
>>43122159 i have bpd and i struggle living with it a lot, i fortunately have a wonderful wonderful friend who is rlly the only person im close to, who does put up with my bullshit that i cant controli hurt her sometimes and i feel horrible for it and i wish i could turn that off bpd is demonised because you hurt the people around you, and i dont blame anyone for not being able to deal with thatif someone was a walking ball of fire that burns everyone around them, would you blame people for not wanting to get close to them? thats what bpd is
>>43125333>straight man confidently walks into an unfamiliar place and talks out of his ass
>>43125493I feel youI don't think every person has an always active fireball, or a minefield. i feel like some if not half have a conditional.
>>43122159As someone with avpd people with bpd make sense>get mistreated>behave like someone who was mistreated>all of a sudden wrong-doers aren't messing with you or disrespecting you on purpose>they consider you either too sensitive or unfathomably evil while playing victimThis is THE autistic experience, so I'm always shocked people think bpd individuals are super villains. People just like obvious autists more because they will allow more disrespect and humiliation without pushback. You can see this in the first post >>43122177>"they do real damage to the people around them"as opposed to the infantilize socially awkward autists, who simply become lolcows or disappear once disrespected enough... yeah, if people are lying and cheating on you, maybe you should be doing some damage...
>>43125706>allow more humiliation You see humiliation and hostility where none exists. Like my ex who decided that me telling her I didn't mind her being busy was actually me saying she was a lying bitch
>>43125765>You see humiliation and hostility where none existsI have avpd not bpd. But thank you for your anecdote. My anecdote is that when I dated someone with bpd they never acted that way.
~beautiful princess disorder~ <3
