This is a flawless policy that has no ethical issues or conceivable downsides
I want to kidnap a Sam Hyde/Nick Fuentes/Postman watcher and chain him up in my basement and make him my perfect bitch. I’d psychologically manipulate him by making him watch alt right content on deliriants until he can’t get the idea out of his head. Then I would force him in front of a computer full of tranny shit, only able to browse this board and play Ultrakill and visual novels and watch tranime. All the while I’d be giving him monotherapy injections and force feed him meals and shakes laced with pio and oral E for estrone. I’d even go so far as to have FFS done on him. Eventually within a year or so he’d already have gained significant fat distribution and his face would be unrecognizable. At first he’d want to kill me, but I would just make him do MDMA to put him in a state of euphoria; in which I would begin training his body to be roughly used. Estrogen would have already warped his sexuality and sensitivity by then, and he’d be involuntarily begging for it. In this state, everything would be cranked up to 11 for him. The high would set a high barrier of pleasure for him. The comedown would have him secretly yearning for it. The chud would try and mitigate this by making himself believe that he’s still a man, this is wrong, this is disgusting, anything to deny the fact that he enjoyed it. He’ll cling onto some false hope, praying that some concerned police offer would save him from this madness. By the time I start him on prog, his mind would have already melted. I’d start to use toys on him, keeping him on the lowest setting of a wand to drive him crazy even when he’s doing something as simple as browsing on his computer. When I’m finally done with him, I would make him look at himself in a mirror after so long. His reflection in the mirror would be enough to make him cry. The last shreds of hope and dignity would finally let go, he’d finally give in. And then, he’d finally be loved.
>>43123715>impying there will be any chasers left after all the incels and chuds have been properly estrogenated>>43124410Not reading all that but congratulations or I'm sorry that happened to you.
>>43124410You can just admit that you wish someone did that to you, its fine. You don't have to pretend its about someone else
>>43124410Decent hornypost.
>>43123715Yes please
>>43123715unironically how do I stop hating afabs
>>43123715Good plan OP>>43124456>impying there will be any chasers left after all the incels and chuds have been properly estrogenatedKek
them having a chaser might actually do more harm than good
>>43125011Nonsense. I've already stated this plan is flawless and has no downsides.
>>43124473Can't a man have a forcefem fetish without it being self-targeted
>>43125390It's possible, but very unlikely in reality
>>43125286I trust the plan OP, I don’t know what’s got all the haters quibbling over unimportant details
>>43125403Thank you. The chuds posting concern troll and ragebait threads on here are free you can take them home.I have 5 chuds currently being estrogenized
Only if the chaser is cisf
>>43125615they deserve to be pooned
>mfw i'm a chudette ex-incel
>>43125684Do you agree with this plan or not?
>>43124965Forget about them and love men
>>43125684My culture is not your costume
>>43125847>Clicked on this threadIt's time to stop repressing
>>43124410waow>BASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASED
>>43125693Ultimately no. Because I don't agree with forcing anyone.Buuut, trooning should be made easier for incels. Not subsidized, but just more accessible and normalized.It's good for the economy too. I went from shit-tier jobs not even trying to working really hard to make the $$ to afford this project once it hit me that at least for me transmaxxing would unironically work. And it did. Iwnbaw in a XX biological sense but life is way better as socially female and being loved by a man beats loneliness for sure.Still, forcibly trooning people (forcing for real, not the hot forcefem thingy) is unethical. You don't need that. Just heavily incentivize and offer.Also, it's not for everyone. Transmaxxing works for some, but not for all. It's unfortunate but it is what it is.>>43125847I was an incel throughout 100% of the time I played male mode and the first two years into trooning. I am fake, but not a fakecel. Just faketrans/transmaxxer.
>>43126128>Ultimately no. Because I don't agree with forcing anyone.booooringi want to corrupt a moralfag christcuck into being my personal cocksleevei find it hot to see the gradual sexual degeneration of a man who claims to be a "man of christ" as his body becomes his own worst enemy
>>43125923Good… good…
>>43125605Excellent, I’ll pick up a couple from the shitpost threads on my way out later.
>>43126226>i want to corrupt a moralfag christcuck into being my personal cocksleeveBut you can do that now. A lot of them would come along willingly.After I trooned, a christcuck I knew threw a hissy fit about how iwnbaw but got stuck when I replied "yes, I know, but I will look like one and enjoy it". Now he's an "hrt femboy" kek.Incentives, nudging and accessibility already work towards your goals.
>>43126226Wow you sounds like a very pleasant person, I totally wouldn't mind leaving my drink around you :)
>>43126226>>43126336okimagine this:you're one of these groyper alt-right TND anti-woke sharty user types, conforming to some traditional idea of masculinity which most of the time is a muscular liver-eating aryan. all of a sudden you're being tied up by a chaser and forced to watch as your body is pumped full of hormones. you're unable to try and save yourself. unable to cut your hair as it reaches your back. can't starve yourself, because no matter what, you're rapidly losing all of your muscle and your masculinity with it, and you can't do anything about it. fem fat distribution makes all of your weight go to your ass and thighs. your gyno worsens with each passing week. and as if the hormones weren't driving you crazy already, they're starting you on prog. sending you to a surgeon to get FFS. by the end of it, you're practically ruined.you'd have no other choice but to be roughly treated by any and every chaser that gazes upon youa karmic punishment in which you become the thing you hated the most
>>43126415Hot...
>>43126415
>>43126415It is also essential to remove his balls. Not too soon though, you want him going through the initial stages with some hope that, if he can get out of there, he can go back to the life he had. Once he's acclimated a little and his despair died down, that's when you castrate him. It'll send him spiraling all over again, very funny and hot
>>43126484What would you do next?
>>43126415>no srs>no hot guy to helpbooooringyou gotta fix the story
>>43126415that's basically what happened to me, but I did it to myself
>>43126596How did it happen
>>43126605I was a groyper chud before I transitioned and now I regularly get sexually assaulted by middle eastern chasers when I go out
>>43126632Are you a slut now
>>43126644yes, I never reject anyone. That's probably why I keep getting assaulted
>>43126236Estrogen could have saved Anakin
>>43126664What's your body count
>>43126685so far its just 4. I stopped going out as much because I found it hard to deal with sometimes
>>43126415Classic prank
>>43126713Interesting. How is your transition going, do you pass?
>>43126736not fully. I can go through daily life as a woman for the most part, but I'm clocky. I think the type of twinkhon that apparently is massive chaser bait, judging by my experiences
>>43126756Do you regret it?
>>43126789No, not at all. I was a chud because I was incredibly miserable about my life from dysphoria, but also extremely scared of transitioning. Some things suck and I guess objectively speaking my life is more difficult now, but I'd never want to go back. Nothing that's happened to me because of transition so far has been as hard to deal with as just getting out of bed as a chud repper. I feel very ashamed that I ever was a chud and don't usually admit this, so I hope you're getting something out of hearing this at least
>>43126816I wouldn't say I am chud, but I am miserable repper.
>>43126842Well, that saves you the step of removing the chud ideology before you can troon out. I whole heatedly recommend transition if you already admit to yourself you're a repper. Unfortunately it's not nearly as fun or easy to do to yourself as the other anons forcefem torture fantasy, but its worth doing
>>43126874How did you start?
>>43126879diy and boymoding at first. I met my best friend on the day I started hrt, eventually she figured out that I was transitioning and called me out on it. She was really encouraging and helpful to me in the years since then, it's in large part thanks to her that I managed to become a mostly happy disaster tranny
>>43126906Sure, but what convinced you to start?
>>43126952the chud cope broke down because my body kept getting more masculine. then i had a suicide attempt and after that i decided to stop repping
>>43126999I never cared how masculine I am, it makes repping easier.
>>43124410There isnt rly that much overlap between S. Hyde and Fuentes audiences tho.Hyde is for antisemitic doomers, Fuentes is just grifting groypers and having gay sex with femboys.That being said i watch altright shit and read conspiracy literature and need texrel done to me asap.
>>43127069What are you even repressing then?
>>43127091Sexual desire to be a woman.
>>43127099Just do the Bryan Noem then. Not even incompatible with chudhood
>>43127146I take my repping seriously. I only allow myself masturbation.
>>43123715this is not flawless because it doesnt guarantee they will look good enough for a chasert. ugly manmoder 1year hrt
>>43125390any man with a forcefem fetish is destined to ironically become the target of forcefem
>>43126874nta>removing the chud ideology before you can troon outWhat a restricting mode to live. It's more fun to be a chuddette.>I whole heatedly recommend transitionYep. Ultimately it was a good idea to transmaxx.Funny thing I didn't even become a slut but still have a body count of 5. But it will stay 5 for a while since I'm unironically getting married.t. >>43125684 & >>43126128
>>43127284as is good, just and righteous
>>43127294I don't find it restricting at all. Being a chud was a consequence of building myself a worldview that meant I wouldn't transition, because I was terrified of it. It was a great relief to be rid of it again, I felt warped. I would never want to be a chudette>I'm unironically getting married. Sounds like things are going great for you nona, congrats!
>>43125390>>43127284Real men find a failed boy to forcefem and thus remain secure in themselves.>any man with a forcefem fetish is destined to ironically become the target of forcefemDoubt. My bf found me and it is now a perfect loop. I get off from being a failed male and he gets off from reminding me that. Will even get better once I get srs. It's in both of our interest that he doesn't become the target of forcefem. He is a real man. I am not.
>>43127284>>43127295Noooo :( it's only based when I do it to other people
>>43127339>>43127329This is the exact kind of relationship I need a failed male gf would fix me unironically
>>43127319I suppose we have different definitions of chud(dette). I'm not American. Lots of things you Americans consider "chud" are normal beliefs here.>a worldview that meant I wouldn't transition, because I was terrified of itAh, I see. I postponed transition because I was unsure I could make it. And also bought into the "you're faketrans" because I had no realistic dysphoria. Once that was overcome I just rolled with it.>congratsThank you. I hope you find love too.More happy trannies is what we all need, unironically.
>>43127339>>43127347I want to transition from failed male to a girlfriend...
>>43124410Too rapey for my tastes. It has to be someone who secretly wants it
>>43127329It is always hot and funny though when someone dominant meets their match and loses all their power. Imagine if your bf fell for an even stronger guy who forcfemmed him, and now you're both just his concubines, on equal footing. as the more experienced failed male, you of course get to correct his behavior on behalf of the stronger guy, and pay him back for how he treated you all those years. Sure it would nuke the relationship, but it's hot in theory
>>43123715I'm so glad estrogen killed my sex drive, take your fucking meds you deranged perverts.
>>43127459If you were on progesterone like you're supposed to be it'd come right back
>>43127459This is the only place I can make threads like this please let me have this.
>>43127526Might also be popular in niche corners of xitter
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>>43127395Idk if this is cuckshit or whatever but me and my cisf chasergf sometime worship my ex's penis together bc it's pretty huge and he's hot.
>>43127625It's not cuckshit if he's fucking both of you. But it is even hotter imo when there's a hierarchy between the subs
>>43124410>The last shreds of hope and dignity would finally let go, he’d finally give in. And then, he’d finally be loved.Beautiful.
>>43127625Some men die of thirst while others drown
>>43127395>pay him back for how he treated you all those yearsBut I'm not resentful. I'm grateful.Also, how can I correct his behavior when I'm not right yet either. Maybe two years from now after I've had srs and recovered and soulpass better. Maybe.But I don't want to be a concubine. I want to be his girl. Who knew that behind the incel failed male stood a romantic girl? <3>>43127459>estrogen killed my sex driveSkill issue. And progesterone shortage.>take your fucking meds you deranged pervertsI do. They made me more perv over time and that's why I keep taking them.
>>43128700>behind the incel failed male stood a romantic girlI wish this was me, too.
>>43128700It's my favorite gooner scenario. Of course it wouldn't work with an actual relationship. I just like power and hierarchies and being hurt and hurting people
>>43123715Picrel source?
>>43128700>But I don't want to be a concubine. I want to be his girl.Who said that you have to remain a concubine? You can still become lovers even if you were made his bitch. Just look at your average Las Vegas marriage.
Crying because iwn have theseI will never be someone's dateI am sadly a man
>>43128924You don't have to stay one of you don't want to
>>43128714Some of it is trainable and some of it is a result of the environment. Yeah, some of it is innate probably, but 2 out of the 3 components are up to you.I became more romantic with time. The more I socialized with normalfags (especially after passing with cis women) and the more my relationship got more serious, the more romantic I became.Him matching my perversion also helped, ofc.>>43128765>power and hierarchies and being hurtYes <3>and hurting peopleboo! no. Least of all him.>>43128829>Just look at your average Las Vegas marriageSorry, can't relate. Again, I'm not a burger. And that probably helped me the most so far in this life.I would've never trooned successfully if I were American. And would've never escaped inceldom either.
>>43126484better yet, let him go back as an act of mockery. let him believe in the false hope that it hasn't become that bad. let him be a man since he begs you for it. the moment he tries to be a man again after several months of feminization will be the moment that he begins to spiral down further into his desire. you can then accelerate the breaking point by endlessly teasing him. a touch on the hip here. a whisper in the ear there. "accidentally" leaving your musky clothes in his room. but don't say anything outright. leave him in a perpetual state of literal blueballing. strain his psyche with your games until the sexual tension is so palpable that his sanity is hanging on a string. by the end, he'll be practically begging you to knead his prostate, facefuck him, treat him roughly, etc, etc. by then, getting orchi would just be a byproduct of you giving him (or her) an end to this endless state of desperation and newfound yearning.
>>43129162after a few months of this and him being constantly horny from the prog and MDMA you've been feeding him, but also increasingly sad from the abuse he has to take to get fucked, you give him a choice. keep his balls and stay and abuse toy, or get castrated and be loved as a woman, never to return to who he once was
>>43129263>castrated and be loved as a woman, never to return to who he once wasEasy choice.
>>43129273It's crucial that she asks for it herself. Acceptance is the final stage
>>43129162I came to this board to dump on the trannies, but I wish someone did this to meWhat is happening, what did you do to me
>>43129305> SheNot that anon but the poster of >>43129325, why does this feel so right
>>43129305When hormones change your body and rewire your brain, there can't be resistance anymore. You can only embrace your new form. I know I'd be so grateful.
This isn't okay but it felt good, I really need more posts like this
>>43129325>>43129349
>>43128773569708
>>43129263>keep his balls and stay and abuse toy, or get castrated and be loved as a woman, never to return to who he once wasI'd choose to keep the balls if srs is not on the table.Orchi sounds hot in theory but it really doesn't do much in practice. First time getting wet in the srussy and being fucked, that makes the failed boy accept her femininity and begin the journey to love it.
>>43129666Can't raise the stakes too high at first if you actually want a chud to self insert and discover something about herself
>>43129847Fair enough. Especially since now srs is safe even after orchi.Still, as a chudette srsoid, I am living proof that we can have both to a large extent. Chuds just want to be loved. And some of them are better loved as women. Nothing wrong with that.
Can someone abuse and forcefem me tho
>>43123715i've always thought we should take all incels and divide them by their height and then the shorter half can be women and give them to the taller half who will function as menwould solve both the incel and male loneliness problem
>>43131478Ew. I wouldn't date an incel tho. Let alone let him smash.t. incel-to-tranny pipeline "victim"
>>43131478>tfw too tall to be a woman
