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the benjamin scale has 2 types of trans like blanchard but splits them into 6 subcategories, which one do u think is more accurate? or both?
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>>43124164
You're Jewish.
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>>43124164
I feel like blanchards typology is more accurate bcuz I think most agps here would fall under true transsexual in the benjamin scale
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>>43124164
>or both?
how about neither
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>>43124229
Thats ok too
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>>43124199
this is because agps are true transsexuals
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>>43124259
yeah but then its just not a useful scale
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>>43124164
way too old and just far removed from my actual life circumstances to feel represented by this. blanchards typology has that problem but with this i can't even really stretch any of the definitions to fit me
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I would probably be type iv or v but I feel like my experiences are a mix of the last 3
>Kinsey 3
>Conversion attractive
>Estrogen required
>Psychotherapy unsuccessful
>Despises his male sex organs
This is very centric around wanting to chop dick off which I obviously want to do but don't consider essential to femaleness, after all its not like everyone can see it. Otherwise I would say it's only marginally better than Blanchard's typology as it at least acknowledges the existence of group 2 but not the fact that 60% of mtfs would fall into it
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>>43124164
>>43124199
you are israeli
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>>43124563
I agree that its somewhat betetr than blanchards in its accuracy but my problem is that it devotess like 4 categories to 5% of the people it discusses. unless i am severely mistaken there arent that many sissies out there so categories 1 and 2 are kind of irrelevant. I like however that it categorises based on dysphoria and not on "origin of the desire"
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>>43124308
What is useful about agp/hsts?
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>>43124624
I guess its more useful because the categories are bigger. I know a lot more people who fall under agp or hsts than I do that fall under any of the 3 transvestite categories
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>>43124573
There is still a large number of sissies among the older folk, femboys have somewhat supplanted them among the young and many would still qualify under those categories.
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>>43124164
I don’t think I fit anywhere on this scale. It’s honestly a completely unconvincing scale. By contrast, AGP/HSTS is different. When I first read the definition of AGP, I was astonished by how accurately it described me. Comparing such a worthless scale to AGP/HSTS itself feels insulting.
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>>43124638
yea but like what is useful about the blanchardian categorization
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>>43125852
I meant useful as in “applicable”
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Benjamin's scale, while I have a lot of respect for him because he was not a gatekeeper like people seem to think he was, is inadequate based on what we now understand about the brain, and the term "true transsexual" is kind of a misnomer the same way "true spider" is a misnomer. Non-true spiders are still spiders. Non-true transsexuals are still transsexuals. People are garbage at language and it creates a lot of retarded misunderstandings. Better to avoid this and switch to a numerical scale like the Kinsey scale, and to add more axes than just one while we're at it to validate and record nonbinary presentations of transsexualism like feeling 100% binary transgender but feeling severe dysphoria requiring surgical treatment in only one of your primary sex characteristics so your transition would be completed once your body reached a more nonbinary state than a fully binary one. As well as accommodate the opposite where nonbinary individuals seek a 100% binary medical transition despite their social identity. The scale could be a range of "severity" of feminization or masculinization of each body part in regards to the brain's perception. Plus one or two for relational gender identity perception -maybe one from man to woman with nb being in between, and one from agender to very strong identification with a specific gender. If we had to, we could throw in a "gender role conformity" but I really wish people would stop conflating that with any form of transgenderism because you can be 100% cisgender and cissexual and even heterosexual and still be gender nonconforming, and besides that those roles are socially constructed anyway. Famous case being women now wear pants and it's not considered gendered anymore.
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as someone who feels left out of the agp/hsts typology, this one feels even worse because it couples dysphoria severity and genital dysphoria w/ sexuality
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>>43124164
arbitrary taxonomic categorization is just a projection of the author
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>>43127074
Yes, that's the point he's trying to make, he thinks that if you don't have severe and extreme genital dysphoria then you are a transvestite and faking your other transsexual symptoms
It's by design, not an oversight
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>>43124164
>Trusting cissies with gatekeeping your healthcare
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>>43127678
I don’t think that’s true
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>>43127706
It is, this typology is all crackpot nonsense from the 60s that gets latched onto by insecure troons who want to larp as trutrans



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