As a cis male with AGP is transmaxxing actually worth it? I know the shortcomings of being a troon and that transition is pay to winWill I be shunned by the trutrannies?
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>>43127703Sorry I need a valid reason to troon, to justify trooning out
>>43127816just be a cis man on hrt
>>43127447AGP is truetrans
>>43127842But how do I explain this to the hrt providers?
>>43127862That's the secret you don't
>>43127447Are you into Touhou op? Is there any Touhou girl you identify with or want to become?
>>43127447If you like guys yes If you like women not really
>>43127816do you want to be a woman? Reason enough
>>43127897Cirno because she is a silly bakaPicrel is drawn by aiu404l (goes by aiuchi on yt)Giving her a shout because her music is cool
>>43127447Not necessarily. For instance hedonism can seem great in the moment but over long periods of time not bring true happiness. It's all about what you truly want out of life.
>>43127447none of this mental shit matters, all that matter is "do i want to change my body in this way, will it make me happy? can i handle aging on tesosterone?" and then choose from there. its worth it
>>43127909I started off as this kid who likes women, but gradually started to blush when bigger men hold meThat is before I knew what meta attraction wasHow over is it
>>43127447What are your measurements?
>>43128074You're not meta attracted you're just androphilic. Meta attraction is a meme just kiss men ffs
>>43127935I don't wanna become a woman, and spend a day as a man before my transition. I wanna be a woman from day one, and not having to work out justifying my identity to myself and others
>>43128079Nor revealing them but 5'5 tall
>>43128094Mood...
>>43128092But I hated it when this scrawny friend of mine molested meI want a real man to hold me firmly into his chest and make me feel smallBut unfortunately that would make him gay because I am not a woman
>>43128107Okay can you give stuff like bideltoid and hip breadth and stuff? Transmaxxing may be viable.
>>43128141Sorry but you might be a foid <3
>>43128074It's time to troon out anon, you'll never be happy if you don't do it
>>43128094Do you think anyone other than AGAMPs wants to be a tranny?
>>43128071I cannot handle aging on TAt allI don't think anybody can lolAside from some dumb foid pooners, or some overcompensating macho dude, I am certain that nobody likes T Plus the man's wardrobes are drab and boringI wanna thrift and sew fun clothes, like those women youtubers
>>43128156Eh, sorry but noI measured it the last time, and seeing my shoulders grow half an inch despite my anamaxxing broke me
>>43128156Eh, sorry but noThe last time I measured it, seeing my shoulders grow half an inch despite my anamaxxing broke meSry had to rephrase
>>43128092Meta attraction is real but for most AGP is just misdirected gynephilia
>>43128169Are you Kirbizia? No other tranny uses the word snoy more than Kirbi <3But what do I know, I am a boy looking for an excuse to trannymaxx
>>43128217YOU ARE DYSPHORIC YOU DON'T NEED ANY OTHER EXCUSE TO TRANSITION
>>43128235No I am not. I'm relatively new here (like 6 months). Never heard of her. Just started namefagging because of a greentext I posted.
>>43128257I know, but I need to justify it to myself that my actions are pragmatic
>>43128330It will likely increase your QoL if you're that dysphoric, especially if you're passing. 5'5" is good.
>>43128393Hope so, maybe it is time I get some laser done while I think this throughThanks Ms Snoy
>>43128425You're welcome! Given everything you've said I assume you're young and ygmi. There's even hope for those of my size (5'9", 18" bideltoid).
>>43128475what about me? im 5'6 with a 17" bideltoid
>>43128488I've seen worse. What's your other measurements? Time on HRT (HRT can shrink bideltoid by reducing muscle mass)?
>>43128545>HRT can shrink bideltoid by reducing muscle massi know that and ive been on it for a year but all the muscle in my body has disappeared already>>43128545>What's your other measurements?bust: 34"underbust: 30"waist: 30" (i need to lose weight)hips: 37"ribcage breadth is 11" and hip breadth is 12" if that matters
>>43128581What's your shoulder circumference?
>>4312862641"
>>43128694Not ideal but could be worse. What's your weight at? Bulking up hips with exercise and further fat redistribution will help.
>>43128917im 135lbs
>>43128944Okay I think you need to exercise rather than lose weight. Tighten core muscles, try out some shape wear, build your glutes. Also posture exercises.
>>43128964i think i will just starve myself as a punishment for being this putrid
>>43128074do you still like women?this >>43127909 is correct
>>43127447Do you want to troon? If yes, then troon.Really that simple.>Will I be shunned by the trutrannies?Who the hell cares?I transmaxed, got shit from trannies and the same trannies years later come to me for advice. Once they grew out of their smugness, they realized that what happens IRL matters the most. And IRL I function as a woman, even partially soulpass by now, have a long term bf and getting ready to buy property together.Over the years I noticed that transmaxxers and gigafetishists make it better than the 'tru' ones who are busy microanalyzing irrelevant shit (including who else is 'tru' or not).>transition is pay to winUnironically yes.If you can afford it and want it, go ahead. It's worth it if done right.If you can't afford it and/or don't want it, then don't do it.>>43128071^^^^basically this
>>43129020No! Bad! Also there's stuff like pioglitazone for enhancing fat distribution. There's a discord server full of (mostly) girls trying it that I can link if you want.
>>43129061I don't pursue anybody romantically, never had and never willNot a fun feeling having your envy compete with your desire
>>43129065Thanks, maybe I should gather the courage to dress myself up for myself
>>43129290This is why you go for guys!!! It's easier. It's much easier when I don't cry over how much better they are than me.
>>43127447AGP are trutrans
>>43127447yes you will be sunned but they are kind of waste of time anyway so it doesn't really matter. If you can deal with the negatives of trooning; I'd say its pretty good, and you might start to feel normal too.
AGP is a fetish caused by testosterone. If you take HRT and still desire being a woman, it was more than AGP.
>>43129290I asked you if you like women not if you pursue them.
Whatever. You already made up your mind you're just fishing for excuses and support
>>43127447Do you wanna grow tits and ass and be soft and weaker but slightly cuter and are ok with infertility and dick issues? If the answer is yes then it's worth it
>>43127862just order this ts shit online
>>43127447just do it nona
We live in a fake and gay world and I've been seriously wondering if people would still transition given the following scenario:Let's say that as a AMAB you were offered FREE LAND and, as such, you'd be expected to build a house out of bricks on it. During your school years, you would've been taught how to do this and you'd be fully prepared for it once you've come of age. With this endeavor ahead of you, do you think you'd still start taking estrogen? It would affect your strength and make it more difficult. Don't treat building a house as a trivial thing, it's HARD LABOR that will take you months to complete. Perhaps more troubling, would you conceal being trans if they said "ONLY MALE-IDENTIFYING PERSONS ARE ALLOWED 'FREE LAND' "?Basically the point I'm getting at is that in our world there are fewer benefits to actually being a man. Anybody could start taking estrogen and their "monetary" quality of life won't change. The physical advantages of being a big strong man don't matter in our sissified world.
>>43132451There's no advantage of being a tranny over a man
I'm 21yo, 5'6 92lbs and never gonna troon
>>43132451>do you think you'd still start taking estrogen?yep.I actually do work in construction as a tranny lol.you really have the wrong impression on how these things work.
>>43132575>can anybody forcefem me?>I'm 21yo, 5'6 92lbs and never gonna troonStop repping!
>>43130307I guess not? Leaning towards no
>>43132592I was drunk and it makes me agp bc of plant estrogens that are in liquor from wheat and shit
>>43132097Yes, 3 out of the 4 things you described are a good thing
>>43132606Stop repping, my friend. It rots your soul and you know it's not good for you.
>>43132451>The physical advantages of being a big strong man don't matter in our sissified world.According to oligarchs at the world economic forum, in the very near future the only jobs that pay a living wage will be physical labor construction jobs building data centers so that's about to change
>>43132661I feel like theres gonna be more money in shooting oligarchs in the head
>>43132704Based cismoid. You should eat more so that the recoil of shooting a gun won't make you fly
