All transgender "women" are males who have a crossdressing fetish.All transgender "men" are females who want to be a femboy in a gay relationship.
to add, passing is a myth
OP is a troon too, just to clarify
>>43130208everyone on earth is cisgendered
>>43130252I suppose so
>>43130192Meh weak take, typed by an even weaker constitution
>>43130192doesn't account for the non crossdressers or asexualsmodel rejected
>>43130324how would you know someone was a tranny if they didnt crossdress?>asexualsnot a real thing
>>43130192Actually I want to be a hairy roided out masculine dudebro that fucks other hairy roided out masculine dudebros (cis) in the ass and give each other handjobs and blow each other while playing video games. And maybe tag team some feminine women together if he's bi too.>>43130407So if I go all the way with surgeries and hrt but I grow my hair out and ask people to call me a woman and tell people my name is Alice, that magically makes me a cis woman? I see no way this could go wrong.
>>43130304Yeah we the people stupid nigger
>>43130813no, it makes you a cis mantrannies are defined by being men who crossdress
>>43130192Actually I want to fuck women
>>43130851comp het
>>43130898Nah I just like tits, being gay would be a lot more convenient for my sex life
>>43130923gay men are hated above all others, its easier to pretend to like women, thats what most gay men do if all you have to do is say "i like tits" and you are no longer subject to torment, yeah, I think that's gonna appeal to a lot of people
>>43130927I am ftm to be clear and I have only ever slept with women (excluding one guy I gave an objectively mediocre handjob)
>>43130192>crossdressingi wear chinos and flannels bro
>>43130963zipper scars, or depart quickly
>>43130192I have worn women's clothing less since starting HRT than I did before HRT.If it was just about satisfying a crossdressing fetish I wouldn't feel the compulsion to hide my body in mens clothes that used to fit me when I weighed 35kg more than I do now (and I weigh 67kg currently). I wouldn't feel too hideous to pursue sex or intimacy in any way, despite it being readily available to me.Prior to HRT "crossdressing" was a way to have some control over my presentation, at least in private, to provide some level of visual femininity as a way to at least somewhat alleviate my brain from seeing pure maleness. But it was only done because HRT wasn't an option to de-masculinise myself. Once on HRT, engaging with such behaviour without passing becomes pointless because active control is being taken to de-masculinise anyway.
>>43131779stop taking hrt
>>43130192Im a transsexual "woman" and I also just want to be the femboy in a gay relationship.
>>43132012you can be in a gay relationship without either of you taking estrogen
>>43131779Kinda sucks going the opposite direction, I never liked women's clothes. No pockets, shorts are too short, no room in the crotch (ow my phantom balls), wasted space in the chest area (I'm luckshit), waist is too tight, and often fabrics are too thin and clingy sometimes almost translucent. Also buttons on the wrong side and colors that are too bright. It'd be easier to get stuff that fits me as a manlet but it's too much bullshit, I'd rather buy chinkshit online instead while building muscle hoping it fills me out enough eventually to buy stuff that fits off the rack.
>>43132020I guess so but no one liked me before so I dont really want to stop
>>43132044this seems sort of black and white>the only way men like me is if I take estrogenseems a bit exaggeratedmaybe you were just ashamed to be with men without it
>>43132061No I tried to but men just didnt like me. I like attention anyway.
>>43132061why does it matter? i'm personally not one for idpol either, but like me taking estrogen is not that big a deal. i got lucky enough to not grow boobs so i'm just gonna keep being a suspiciously fem looking male and i dont see why that's a problem
>>43132096because it suggests that gay men are hypersexual and need to be castrated like sexual predators/offendersyou wouldn't take estrogen if you loved men touching your penis and sucking you off and has no internalized homophobia about how you can have sex with men
>>43132108nothing about what i'm doing suggests gay men need to be castrated. i just like being castrated as a personal aesthetic preference. i tried gay and straight sex before i got castrated and both were okay but not really anything to have an identity crisis over about how society saw me as promiscuous or some bull.
>>43131937That would likely result in an accumulated dysphoria burden that would turn me into a John 50. I would also gain nothing from doing so.I have been on cypro long enough to be infertile; I already basically had my military career all but shot dead by choosing to transition.>>43132028Personally, the appeal I see in women's clothes now is more about silhouette and passability, but with respect to my transition, I would be perfectly content never wearing anything but men's clothes if I passed as female in them.In some ways, I would feel more comfortable about it because it still feels wrong to me to not look at men's clothes, and I doubt passing would alleviate that. If my body passes, I always have the fallback of "well, I just look like this" and they can't really prove I'm not just intersex or something (in other words, I cannot be unmade and proven to be trans), but if I don't wear ASAB clothes, I can be labelled as having chosen to engage in unacceptable behaviour (transitioning) that is branded as fetishistic and abhorrent.But ramble aside, for FTMs, honestly, I don't see why you can't just wear men's stuff from day one outside of not filling it out (lots of men don't fill out their clothes which I know doesn't mean much to dysphoria but ykno), I don't think (depending on where you are) many people would judge you for it and there is some joy to be had in filling out a piece of clothing you didn't previously.>>43132108>because it suggests that gay men are hypersexual and need to be castrated like sexual predators/offendersNo, it doesn't. What a batshit thing to say lmfao.
>>43132208yes it does alan turing was given estrogen to punish him for being gay
>>43132225you're actually so retarded it's laughable. i still get aroused even on estrogen, like???
>>43132012>Im a transsexual "woman" and I also just want to be the femboy in a gay relationship.All it takes is a nice face, fake tits, and a gym membership for most of ust. chaser
>>43132297fake tits look awful >>43132277as aroused as you did before? as randomly horny and erect?
>>43132225Yes, and the issue there was that it was involuntary. The reason they castrated Turing was out of a desire to eliminate queerness from society (which I generally mean as anyone who is LGBT), not because they thought homosexuals were all hypersexuals, but rather that even the lowest level of homosexual sexual activity was abhorrent (just like they often consider the lowest level of transsexual activity to be abhorrent). They do not wish to simply castrate, they wish to "cure" or remove the existence of what they see as an underlying paraphilia (which, as I've said, still applies to trans people)Total coincidence (and you don't have to believe me, this is 4chan after all), but I have an unbelievably high amount of common experience with Turing as a trans woman whoLives around where he did most of his work and tried to join the closest thing in the modern day to the unit he worked for during WW2 (and was rejected out of for taking HRT - ie for failing to hide my queerness where he succeeded despite passing all the testing they threw at me). I personally derive a lot of comfort from knowing I'm not the only person TERF island threw aside, despite every effort being made on my part to try and do something for this country. Hell I even have that relative comparison to being typically seen as a slightly spergy nerdy autist despite not actually being diagnosed with autism.It's off topic, but the point is to say I'm quite fond of Turing (in case that wasn't obvious enough)
>>43132334>fake tits look awfulNot to the men that anon's trying to attract
>>43130192im a straight ftm tho
>>43132367his tits are shaped like hexagons if you see them outside of a push up bra
>>43132379*twirls hair* h-hey~
>>43132387>his tits are shaped like hexagons if you see them outside of a push up braMen who like trans women don't give a flying fuck about that; just that they're big, heavy, moderately round, and you can play with them. Hanging, squishy feminine things on a tall, twink male body.
>>43132435almost like you just want to have gay sex and use the tits to pretend it isn't
>>43132108Men are hypersexual.
>>43132893wake me up when people criticize straight men for that crime as much as gay men
>>43130192>crossdressingi'd never wear women's clohes cuz they're for women and i'm a faketrans moidbrained male man with peter pan syndrome
>>43130839research the term "body modification"
>>43133023you don't modify your body enough to become more female than male
