>>43130654
>trans girl
>they
kys

>>43130654
>if they have a neo-vagina I can just go in, while she's still sleeping preferably
We tried that and it doesn't quite work. I do wake up pretty fast.
According to my guy, the entrance is slightly easier than cisfs and the lubrication is slower than cisfs, but overall not significantly different.
It does depend on the procedure and how successful it is. And also how long has it been (the first few months are weird).
>doing anal eternally with all the prep that has to be done sounds nightmarish
Logistics was one of the reasons I got the snip. Glad I did and could afford it.

>>43130768
Thanks for contributing actual information on this subject anon!
>We tried that and it doesn't quite work. I do wake up pretty fast.
Haha that part about sleeping sex was kind of a joke
Waking up easily would happen to a cis girl too. If you are into this fetish or your guy has it and you wanna indulge him you'd have to take some strong sleeping pills for it to work.

>>43130812
Pussies also don’t get wet while you’re on sleeping pills, it’s mental for women

>>43130768
where did you go/what technique?

>>43130824
eslbro what are you even saying

>>43130836
Work on literacy. Pussies do not get wet while they’re KOed on sleeping pills. Arousal development is mental.

>>43130836
nta but are you a man

>>43130844
And who the fuck said otherwise? You fucking retard

>>43130836
lol

>>43130859
Work on literacy
Holy shit
Weak bait or actual retardation

>>43130874
Damn you really are fucking retarded

>>43130654
Older mid 40s fat chaser here. I've fucked three different post surgery vaginas, one being a woman who's had her pocket pussy since the early 90s, the other two recent
My penis is 6 inches so I'm right almost average, so I think I'll be available to give good insight on this.
First, without a doubt it feels tighter than a regular pussy. I've heard it varies but from my experience it felt like a tight flesh light. The texture however is very "soft". Almost like the inside of your cheek, hardly any smooth-bumps like the inner vaginal canal.
Id say the girl with the older pocket cunt was the tightest and best feeling.
That being said the smell is bad. I did not enjoy eating them out one but. It does not have the same self lubricant as a regular vagina.

>>43130937
>That being said the smell is bad
Can you describe the smell?

>>43130952
Armpits or feet. It doesn't smell like how a vagina should smell.

>>43130971
>Armpits or feet
That doesn't sound as bad as I thought it'd be. Definitely weird tho, why'd it smell like sweat

>>43130984
I've heard some of them smell like shit

>>43130812
>you'd have to take some strong sleeping pills for it to work
Probably not. Not only I'm not into taking psychotropics, but also what >>43130824 said is true. Horny is now 90%+ mental for me.
Besides, we already indulge in cnc, light bondage and all sorts of other perversions.
>>43130831
Spain, Dr. Lago (I'm European). Had ppt.
Reddit trannies badmouth the option for some reason. I am however a happy customer unironically.
>>43130971
Either old style srussy or crap hygiene. Or both.
>>43131007
The ones made from colone tissue (especially those that went partially wrong).

>>43131116
>ppt
full or hybrid?

>>43130654
i've never penetrated one but i have one and my bf seems to like to penetrate it. i have put my finger in a lesbian before and it felt the same as mine. i don't think she'll appreciate it if you wake her up but yeah you could do that i guess... once a bf of mine got horny in the middle of the night and he just jerked off while looking at my butt
>>43130937
your partners have bv and need to see a gynecologist (and one smart enough to treat us like normal women and cure it properly)

>>43130731
They is gender neutral, let people use it for everyone if they want to.

>>43131180
nta but i had the ppt operation too

>tfw goverment will only pay for penile inversion

>>43131205
full or hybrid?

>>43131237
hybrid

>>43131180
Hybrid because at the time (2019) full ppt still came with lower sensation. I read that in the meantime these things got solved/ironed out.
In theory full has more lubrication, but idk what to say. Hybrid is easier and both forms are lower maintenance than standard PI and have lower recovery time, which was also important for me since I'm a high sex-drive individual.
>>43131216
Option: Do PI and get hybrid ppt as a revision at a later date when you can afford it.
Not ideal but still, ?% progress is better than 0% progress.

>>43131370
ppt won't prolapse and since basically nobody wants to properly attend to our pelvic health i guess that's an advantage

but i wouldn't avoid having a vagina because piv is the only thing available.. and there's so many self-reports of lubrication etc so idk.
quality of the doctor may make a bigger difference

>>43131383
>quality of the doctor may make a bigger difference
It's THE difference, imo.
I am very glad that I am not-poor and thus didn't have to rely on the government lottery and could just shop around and take my time to figure things out.
>ppt won't prolapse and since basically nobody wants to properly attend to our pelvic health i guess that's an advantage
Yes, that was another consideration too.
But since I'm a perv (mef) the top considerations were low(er) maintenance, fast(er) recovery and at least some lubrication. Got all three in good quantity and had no trouble over the years so far. And I use it very regularly lol.

>>43131370
surgeons that do full ppt are really hard to find, there is just one that is well known with tons of photos/reviews and she is a butcher. thats why I always ask lol. most choose to not do it because of depth, full ppt in cis women (obviously cis women cant do hybrid) usually only results in 8-15cm of depth

>>43131459
The clinic in Spain I attended to does offer full (and technically offered it then too). I have no idea about results though.
I am sure there are more than one. Do keep in mind that butchers are more likely to get bad press (and for good reason!) while happy customers are less likely to leave a review. I certainly didn't post my pussy anywhere and never told anyone except my husband and my parents where I had it using my real identity.
I'm a terminally offline tranny. Other than this board, I don't talk about this at all and spend very little time on the Internet. And that's a lot more common than the noise on the Internet would show.
>depth
Yeah, since I had a decently-sized estrogenized dick, why not take advantage of that too, I said. Turned out to be a good decision. ~20cm depth, fits my man very well and gets me climb up the walls more often than not.

>>43131383
>there's so many self-reports of lubrication etc
do not fall for it. PIV requires douching for cleaning and lube for sex

>>43131514
>~20cm depth
waow
Im planning on getting an unusual zero depth with a surgeon really good with looks and then getting a full ppt canal immediately after or wait for a good option to appear, not sure how practical that is. I imagine most trannies dont do this mostly because of how expensive it must be. thanks for letting me know about lago

>>43131615
>getting an unusual zero depth with a surgeon really good with looks and then getting a full ppt canal immediately after
Sounds painful. And risky.
Ofc, your body your choice. But emphasizing looks over functionality rarely ends well. Starting with functionality and focusing on looks later nearly always ends well, though.
Why do you insist so much on full, if I may ask?
Also, I will say that the looks are quite okay on PPT too. Unless you have some very specific requirements, ig.

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>>43130654
It's unrealistic that you'll be able to land a trans girl with a vagina desu. We're rare af.
>t. post-op tranny with a cishet bf

>>43131524
>do not fall for it. PIV requires douching for cleaning and lube for sex
Not that anon, but that's not true at all for me. My surgeon explicitly said to stop douching after 6 months, and I don't need lube for sex with my bf.

>>43131648
>Sounds painful. And risky.
3 months after I mean
>Why do you insist so much on full, if I may ask?
more guaranteed that the canal would be self lubricating and self cleaning, I could be looking for jejunum instead. not having this would be a total dealbreaker for me, would probably turn me away from sex completely. what is your experience with it?
>Also, I will say that the looks are quite okay on PPT too. Unless you have some very specific requirements, ig.
I dont like the V scars, they come from the inversion of the penile skin
>>43131652
>Not that anon, but that's not true at all for me. My surgeon explicitly said to stop douching after 6 months, and I don't need lube for sex with my bf.
which surgeon?

>>43131722
>V scars, they come from the inversion of the penile skin
They do heal over time. Also less pronounced with hybrid ppt than with standard PI.
Still, if that's a concern, there are solutions for that too that are less invasive than two surgeries in 3 months like you're planning.
>what is your experience with it?
Either I'm super lucky (and I might be, given how short and swift my recovery was) or I chose right to go hybrid. Because if full has even more lubrication, then I'd be too wet all day long. Again, I am a perv and high sex drive. Kinda-sorta-horny is the norm to me anyway. So from that perspective I'm very much fine with the level of lubrication but I will speculate that me being very sexual has a lot to do with it.
>jejunum
After reading in 2018 how that works and how long and painful the recovery is, I noped out of it right away. Sure, if it had been the only option, then I probably would've taken it. But good lord, that's excessively complicated.
But I totally get why you're concerned about lubrication. I may think you're too focused on it but you're right that not having it would be a bad thing.

>>43130654
you would still need lube but mine is always ready to go. My bf says it feels good, but he is an incel, so anything is prob good to him.

>>43131853
>there are solutions for that too that are less invasive than two surgeries in 3 months like you're planning.
I agree with you, but vulvoplasty/zero depth is much less invasive than full depth vaginoplasty, it is not something crazy/unheard of. del corral for example does vaginoplasty in two steps, vulvoplasty first and vaginoplasty after 4-6 weeks (I think?). 3 months would be the minimum for me

yes jejunum recovery is awful. thanks for sharing your experience!

>>43131722
>which surgeon?
Dr. Bank

>>43131999
>4-6 weeks (I think?)
3 months*

>>43132010
bank does non penile inversion, no?

>>43131524
i already have a ppt but i've noticed lots of people lie about srs so i tend to accept these self reports over transphobic chasers and doctors
>>43131652
a lot of doctors recommend douching so they don't have to treat bv in trans women which would involve admitting we are female
>>43131949
i keep it around and prefer to use it but i've definitely had sex without lube a few times
>>43131999
also it's a bad idea to get parts of your intestines turned into a vagina
the skin tissue used in piv is literally closer to the vaginal epithelium than the intestinal tissue

>>43130654
>If I happen to end up marrying a trans girl I'd prefer it if they get that procedure done
I already know that you've never even seen a photo of an SRS hole. If dick bothers you, just get a cis woman. They're so much better than srsoids

>>43132041
Correct

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>>43132060
SRS pussies look fine. You're just a fag, lol.
>https://files catbox.moe/lx3zdo.png

I have never penetrated or touched a cis vagina but got to finger and fuck an srsussy so I have no way of really comparing or describing it

>>43132049
>i already have a ppt but i've noticed lots of people lie about srs so i tend to accept these self reports over transphobic chasers and doctors
you should never lister to chasers, but I do not trust self reports, especially if they come from reddit trannies
>also it's a bad idea to get parts of your intestines turned into a vagina
of course, but thats because you lose a part of your intestine
>the skin tissue used in piv is literally closer to the vaginal epithelium than the intestinal tissue
youre wrong
>>43132068
what they call non penile inversion is technically hybrid PI-PPT, (if you had tunica vaginalis for use). the difference is that instead of your canal being 1/2-2/3 peritoneum it is 1/3 peritoneum

>>43131652
>It's unrealistic that you'll be able to land a trans girl with a vagina desu. We're rare af.
idk id chop my cock off for my bf but yeah can't afford it by myself, I feel like money is a big part of the problem here

>>43132131
>youre wrong
i'm not and your confusion here is a reason not to listen to anything else you have to say

>>43132194
ok thank you

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>>43132131
Suporn technique isn't "hybrid PPT" because it's an older technique than PPT. It doesn't use the peritoneum lining at all. The canal is about 1/5 perineum skin and 4/5 scrotal & penile skin with the top layers removed. Tunica vaginilis and urethral mucosa are more supplemental grafts deeper in the vagina than directly being structural to the lining, but they do make it so that a Suporn pussy doesn't need lubrication usually.

>>43131652
>>43130937
Sounds like a blessing in disguise DX
if it actually smells and tastes bad down there like this guy is saying?
.. yikes. that just defeats the whole purpose honestly of having a vagina. sorry you got stuck with something like that forever

>>43131652
im referring to u btw ^

>>43132304
tunica vaginalis is derived from the peritoneum
>but they do make it so that a Suporn pussy doesn't need lubrication usually
exactly this

>>43132081
that looks weird but most pussies look weird to me ig

>>43132330
idk mine tastes normal according to my bf and is normal according to tests at the doctor
>>43132405
you are gay

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>>43132330
>if it actually smells and tastes bad down there like this guy is saying?
It doesn't. Cleaning the vulva and maybe the first inch (of 7 inches) of the canal occasionally is all that's needed to keep it fresh. It doesn't taste bad at all, at least according to my bf. He'll sometimes pull out and stick his dick in my mouth during sex, so I think I know how it tastes? Different from the taste of penis and not bad desu...
>.. yikes. that just defeats the whole purpose honestly of having a vagina.
The whole purpose was to get rid of the penis and associated dysphoria. The sex stuff is just a nice bonus.
>sorry you got stuck with something like that forever
Thank goodness I'm stuck with a pussy forever :) Having a dick blows.

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>>43130654
whyd they turn hag noa into milf noa
shunny for thread's sake.

>>43132399
>tunica vaginalis is derived from the peritoneum
Idk what that means. The tunica that's used is from the scrotal lining, not from the lining of the abdominal cavity.

>>43132345
And?

>>43132459
tunica vaginalis is a part that comes from the peritoneum with the testicles during fetal development that maintains the same characteristics of the peritoneum

nice thread, thx for the info everyone