>treated like shit by default because I'm short >can't connect with men because fundamentally different or they just want to fuck me>women resent me because I'm not masculine, not gay, and because I am awkward>zero friends>so awkward and unlikable nobody would ever hire me for a job>try to escape low value androphilic male slave caste by trooning out >doesn't work because victim of male socialization Genuinely why even live at this point? The only thing I get even the slightest amount of pleasure out of is escapism, I'm permanently locked out of humanity and can't do anything to change that.
>>43146715>>doesn't work because victim of male socializationif you can voice train, you can re-socialize yourself
>>43146715>not gay>androphilic maleIm confused, are you bi or smth
>>43146739Not really, it has to do with trauma. Might as well tell a child molestation victim to just "get over it," that's going to color things from there on out. And unlike child molestation, there's no therapy for something so niche. You're just fucked.>>43146750I am an exclusive pseudoandrophile.
>>43146715Read up on Bataille's theory of general economy
>>43146783Some CSA victims do just get over it, you just don't hear about those ones just like you don't hear about the middle-aged businessmen who shoot up heroin once in a while on a weekend & don't end up homeless junkies
>>43146786Reddit response
>>43146783so what is the trauma that fucked you?
>>43146800Well yeah, I implied some of them might be better at coping with therapy expressly targeted at them. There's no equivalent for people in my position.
>>43146810you stupid nigger
>>43146807Does it really matter? You're just going to attack me anyway.
>>43146851>You're just going to attack me anywayi mean, it does really matter in the sense that it's pretty integral to this idea that you can never pass due to "male socialization." but, this is 4chan, so it doesn't really matter in the sense that i don't really care
>>43146865>it does really matter in the sense that it's pretty integral to this idea that you can never pass due to "male socialization."I never said that, you didn't actually engage with what I said, assumed and projected that onto me because that was easier than...engaging with what I actually said. Kill yourself
>>43146879nigger behavior
>>43146783>pseudoandrophile??
>>43146879never said what? and what do you think "pseudoandrophile" means? gamp? you literally said in the OP that male socialization is what is keeping you in the "androphilic slave caste." i can't engage with what you're saying because you aren't clearly saying anything. they do have many different kinds of cognitive therapy for head trauma and its sequelae, these days. you should ask your caregiver
>>43146715>Why live as a low value male?Because you don't have a choice in the matter.
>>43146896Actually, not reading is closer to that. Sorry.>>43146913/tttt/ speak calls it 'meta-attraction.'>>43146933>you literally said in the OP that male socialization is what is keeping you in the "androphilic slave caste."I never said anything about passing, you assumed that sweetie.>>43146959I could just kill myself, which is what I am considering.
>>43146970>>try to escape low value androphilic male slave caste by trooning out>>doesn't work because victim of male socializationhow do you expect me to interpet this, you duplicitous cunt?
>>43146986Maybe by asking me if it's unclear instead of screeching about passing which I never brought up. Sorry I'm not babytrans or a hon, I guess? My problem isn't that I don't pass physically, my problem is that I'm an alien freak socially and don't fit into humanity, which is the whole theme of the entire post. Are you illiterate, spook? If the premise of my thread is "living as an outcast sucks" why would my problem be my appearance, shit for brains?Sorry that transition actually did help how I felt about my body!
>>43147009you're so fucking unbelievably stupid it's unreal. you literally said, verbatim, that your attempt to escape the androphilic slave class "didn't work." like, genuinely, how many times have you been hit in the head?
>>43147121It didn't, but it has nothing to do with my appearance, it has to do with the trauma of male socialization. What about this is so difficult for you? Are you autistic, do you have a reading disability, or are you ESL?
>>43147151PASSING is not defined EXCULSIVELY by APPEARANCE you SMOOTHBRAINED FUCKING TROGLODYTE. you literally fucking ASSUMED i was talking about your appearance as soon as i mentioned passing, because you're obviously very self conscious of it (projecting). if you check the receipts you will see that i am correct and you are a SHIT GOBBLING BRIDGE TROLL
>>43147177Well people gender me as a woman so God will have to forgive me for assuming passing wasn't the issue.
>>43147199>people gender me as a womansounds like you "escaped the androphilic slave caste," to me
Ill date you OP, i have a cute face but im a kinda bricky transbian, 30 year old unclette, and I'm switch so I'd need you to be dom in bed sometimesWe can be retarded shutin outcasts together tho
>>43147225>sounds like you "escaped the androphilic slave caste," to meI'm still isolated so I don't think so.>>43147241I'm not looking for a relationship, again you guys are projecting onto me issues that I never even articulated having (because I don't). What is this, /r9k/ where everyone's a failed normalfag and their greatest issue is not getting enough sex
>>43147464>I'm still isolated so I don't think so.this is a non-sequitur to me until you explain the trauma that is affecting you. there are plenty of isolated cis women (/clg/). being isolated per se has nothing to do with being part of the "androphilic male slave caste." unless you're saying femcels are men because they're lonely (which is honestly based)?
>>43147497>unless you're saying femcels are men"femcels" don't exist, sex as a woman is extremely easy to come by. But moreover I'm not talking about romantic or sexual loneliness. The average woman has closer platonic relationships and more platonic relationships than the average man. The woman with zero friends essentially doesn't exist. Unless you're me. See what I'm getting at?
>>43147520you're really fucking wormed about this. i can tell you're getting isolation brain damage, because there is no logical connection between being isolated and being a man or a woman. i do get what you're saying, and there is certainly more of a social expectation for women to have a lot of friends, but vroddie. there are lonely cis women, and there are cis women with few friends. i've met several of them. not having friends doesn't make you a spiritual male, or whatever the worms are telling you. take your ivermectin
>>43147561Of course platonically lonely cis women exist, but for that to be a thing outside of like, the elderly is a red flag. Lonely cis women exist like cis women with beards or cis women over 6'1" exist. They do, but they're a heck of a lot common. If you hear of someone extremely isolated, as if you hear of someone 6'2", chances are they're a guy and not a girl.
>>43147585your worms:>"sickle-cell anemia is more common in africans therefore I AM SPIRITUALLY AFRICAN because i have sickle-cell anemia"
>>43147628Shoddy strawman because sickle-cell is relatively rare period
>>43147651so is an isolated cis woman, according to you. are you even trying anymore?
>>43147677I drew the analogy with facial hair because it's relatively common in the male population (and thus overall) even if it's rare in the cis female population. Sickle-cell is rare overall but is present in some African and Indian populations. But yes, chances are if someone has sickle-cell they belong to one of the two. You seem to have not picked up on this and are painting me as silly.
>>43147711>Sickle-cell is rare overall but is present in some African and Indian populationsagain, like isolated cis women, according to you. can you even read?
>>43147728I wrote more than that which contextualizes things that you ignored sweetie.
>>43147744ok bro
>>43146715Sorry to hear that. Maybe find a hobby or something you can take pride in. You don't necessarily need extrinsic motivation to validate you. Therapy would be beneficial to you.
>>43146715my mind is haunted by two theories of the world, one is the looksmaxxing incel blackpilled look at the world where everything is superficial and the only way to have any kind of life is to go all in on improving your looks or carve yourself out into a social niche. trooning being one way to do this or the sam hyde theory where basically you need to suck up that you are a loser and you have to work hard and suffer for something because the only other option is to just suffer in hell.Now that my escapist dream of being able to troon and one day be happy is all but collapsed im kinda just faced with the reality that ive "ruined" my body and what little potential I had and now I just have to suffer forever because theres nothing else worth doing in life because I don't have the ability to embrace the fate of masculinity except with extreme reluctance. which means i cant ever succeed at it, just waiting out the clock on life.
>>43147874I have solitary hobbies, they just remind me what a stunted freak I am and that I can't be normal. >>43148187Why did it fail?
