You are in charge of explaining the the practice of manmoding on livestream/TV to the public, how would you do it? It’s the closest thing the mainstream would consider to a “treatment for mental illness”.
>>43152769Some trans women pretend to be men while taking hormones.
PALLIATIVE CARE FOR DYSPHORIC ADULT MALE WITH TERMINAL MOID DISORDER
>>43152769>"buh-umm- oh well it's, like, they don't pass- uh, yet, so they present male while still undergoing treatment. FtMs do it the other way around, and-">fascinating. how do you know all this?">"...">"...">"wi- uh.">"...">"a friend."
>>43152769"Testosterone feels bad so i take estrogen." Like what is hard here
>>43152800Think about it, it would dismantle the argument of our opposition. Like the existence of rapehon would be countered the existence of manmoders.
>>43152938>>43152800>well u heard it here first folks, they admitted that they're just men, finally some common sense and sanity, lets show them the compassion they need in these dark times, no more men in womens toilets>in other news the admin has won the lawsuit and has made estrogens and birth control an illegal substance, this comes just a few months after the criminalization of transition with a 10 year sentence and mandatory conversion therapyI can picture it right now ngl
>>43152769first, it is essential to explain the pain caused by gender dysphoria.then, i would describe how some treatments are not necessarily designed to "fix" the issue, but rather make it easier to live with the condition.i would then explain that hrt is a way that you can medically improve the lives of a manmoder (me), while also not disrupting the lives of those around the subject in any way.
>>43152769Explain that some trans women feel like, because they do not pass, they need to continue presenting as men in order to avoid making the people around them more comfortable.
>>43152769Coincidentally enough I wrote something kinda related to the thread a few days ago when I was really dysphoric. A tranny manifesto I'd say
>>43157598Some of us are not meant to be women, and that's okayBeing trans is tough, it's unbearable and a really unfortunate way to live life, society doesn't see trans people as the good and kind and brave people that they are, they are made fun of and discriminated against, even children aren't spared. Life is brutal for trans folk, being known as trans is like putting a bright red target on your forehead that screams "please, shoot me!" All while you're inside of a shooting range. It is for that, and many other reasons, that passing is sought so much by trans people, it is the only way to have the semblance of a normal life while not having to rot in the carcass of your old gender, to be seen as the woman (or man) you were rightfully supposed to be at birth without question, to finally belong. However, passing is not a guarantee, even if you do everything right: you can be on hrt for half a decade or more; you can exercise the muscles to offset your masculine/feminine characteristics; you can voice train for as long as possible; you can get rid of all your facial hair; you can add more facial hair; you can get many, many surgeries to correct your body, and despite all of that, you might still not pass, and the worst part is, there might be someone that won't put as much effort as you did in any of those things and still pass. It's a brutal reality, it's not easy to carry the burden of gender dysphoria for years, maybe even decades, and not be able to put it all down and simply live like normal as the gender you were supposed to be, it stings a lot to see cis people — or maybe passing trans people — live the life you were supposed to be living right now, it is not fair that you are forced to keep the shackles of your natal gender or face great consequences otherwise, but, know that it isn't your fault.
>>43157614pt. 2You never asked to be trans, you never asked to be born a boy or girl, you never asked for the features you have right now, everything you did up until the point you started your transition was just you dealing with gender dysphoria to the best of your ability while living in a society that discouraged transitioning. At some point, you were just a kid who thought that it would go away, but it didn't, and now you're stuck like this, and while it feels tempting, you shouldn't blame yourself for that.
>>43157626pt.3Now, I'll ask you to keep the last paragraph in mind, as I'm going to tell you something that is going to hurt: some of us were not meant to be women (and some of us were not meant to be men). Why say such a harsh and unforgiving statement? And on what basis do I say it? I say it because it is a necessary truth: gender is a social construct — that we can agree on, right? — and so, to be seen by others as one gender is to BE that gender. In other words, to pass is to be seen as a woman/man, if you aren't seen as a woman/man, well, you unfortunately aren't one. It is necessary to understand that — even if it hurts so much — as it is the lens of which cis people see gender, most cis people don't see nuance or complexity or a spectrum when it comes to gender, to the vast majority, you're either a man or a woman, a simple binary, no in-betweens or anything out of it. "That's transphobic!" Yeah, I agree, it is, but just because something is bad or untrue, it doesn't mean that it doesn't matter, it's this rhetoric that's being used to attack and take the rights out of trans people all over the world right now, cis people can't fathom the existence of trans people, it's an utterly insane and outlandish concept to them (even if historically it has happened many, many times), to them, being a woman or man is intrinsic to the letter that is in your birth certificate, and that if you're truly a man/woman, you'll look like it: the best we, as trans people, can do (without fighting and being loud for our rights), is to exploit this small loophole in the heads of cis people, ergo, passing (refer to first paragraph).
>>43157635pt. 4Well... In that case, what do non-passing trans people do then? Lay down and cry? Give up and repress? Hope that reincarnation is real and that they'll be born right in their next life? There isn't a cookie-cutter solution to this, as much as I wish there was, something that will make the lives of non-passing trans people instantly better 100% of the time doesn't exist, if you don't pass, well, you don't pass. But... Remember when I gave my two cents on the "gender is a social construct" concept? Being cis passing is the easiest way to be seen as the gender you are, but that doesn't mean it's the only way there is. The first thing I've got to mention is simply living as a non passing trans person, it's what trans people back in the 60s and 70s were doing. Granted, it's not the most optimal route, and it depends on where you live and what's the overall opinion of the general public when it comes to non passing trans people, and even then, you'll be open to a lot of violence, physical, emotional, sexual and there's no guarantee you'll get to be alive for very long, but again, result may vary based on location. The second option is attaching yourself to your natal gender, "but that's repression! And that's really bad!" You're not wrong, but not exactly right. When I say "attach", I don't mean giving up transition as a whole, what I mean is a sort of middle ground between full transition and repression, maybe being a bit closer to one or the other, but never actually making the choice. This middle ground can vary a lot: maybe it could be medically transitioning but not socially transitioning (which is my case!), perhaps it's to present cis but still involve yourself in trans related matters and even some other way of which I'm not aware of, the possibilities are many.
>>43157758pt. 5Though, I know what you're thinking, "this is still repression!" And yeah, I never affirmed otherwise, it sucks looking in the mirror and still seeing the same thing you did see before transitioning, and there are and will be many sleepless nights where you'll cry for what could have been as the regret and sorrow eat you alive, but for many of us, this is all we have. Even if it's not the best thing, it's what we have.Maybe you're reading this and are thinking "this is just an elaborate vent post", and yeah, I'm not going to lie, it is in some parts. Not passing is brutal sure, but it's better than turning back to repression, and somewhat it's a privilege really: a century ago, transitioning was an inexistent thought, if you were born a man or a woman, that was it, you were stuck like that for the rest of your life, and if you were gender dysphoric, your best bet was hoping that it'd go away (which it wouldn't). But now, look at what we have? Hormones nowadays are available and handed out by doctors (granted, doctors can't really be trusted though), and if you don't want to go through the medical system (you should NOT go through the medical system), you can simply buy them online, like, that's genuinely insane, imagine telling that to a gender dysphoric peasent in the 1500s? He would simply scoff and laugh at you and write you off as crazy. Despite all of this sucking, it doesn't suck as much as to could have, "but things could be much, much better!", I agree, but they also could be much, much worse, and to be honest, I don't really like thinking about how things could be better (it's what I do before going to bed after all).
