>>43153084
get fat
if fat goes to ass and not belly, congrats
if not, kys for a reroll
repeat

Cis women often gain weight in belly when stressed, estrogen dominant, or underslept. Also shit diet. You can fix this by the obvious, and get your progesterone, omega3s, and zinc

Weight cycling is a myth it increases adominal fat, don't do it

>>43153084
I'll give you a real answer. When it comes to fat distribution, everyone is different. Everyone has a 'stack' of distribution that determines where they'll first gain or lose weight and goes in a sort of ascending order.

I.e. Person A gains weight first in their abdomen, then their thighs, then their butt and so on while Person B first gains it in their butt, then their arms, then their face etc.

When it comes to biological males and females, there are very generalized trends for where fat distribution typically occurs but they're not 'rules' just what's most likely to happen for men and women.

Gaining an ass in general? You'll want to exercise as the most consistent way to do so. This doesn't particularly require you to gain much weight other than a small caloric surplus and a decent amount of protein. Generally you want 0.7 g of protein per lb of your GOAL weight, which for gaining a better ass is often only 5 to 10 lbs above your basic weight. Meanwhile you'll probably want to eat at least 200 more calories per day than normal to encourage this weight gain.

Now...weight cycling. People have come up with this concept based on estrogen changing your fat distribution. Estrogen does influence your fat distribution, though your mileage may vary pretty significantly case by case. In any case, the idea is to start from a particularly skinny point, be on HRT for awhile, then start gaining weight so that you gain fat in 'new' and 'right' places. I'd honestly recommend that you don't significantly bulk up to do this and simply build muscle & gain weight like in the prior recommendation since if you were going to gain fat in your butt you'd gain it by following the prior recommendation as well without risking health risks from obesity and skin damage. Hope that helps, and next time ask /fit/ when it's a question like this.

>>43153084
>>43153281

I forgot to add something. Even if you do everything right, even if you train for years and build up a nice butt, you're not guaranteed to have some incredibly curvy figure. All you can do is attain the best body you were meant to have. You can't override your genetics or completely disregard your natural limitations. At best, you could spend money on surgery for this with very mixed results though most plastic surgeons are fairly honest if you're not a good candidate for what you're looking for as plastic surgery also can't ignore your bodies blatant limitations.

With that in mind, my ultimate advice is to achieve the best body you were meant to have and take pride in your body and work you put into it. You shouldn't ask "Can I look like that" while seeing others, you should ask "What is the best I can look like?" and work hard to find out.

>>43143444
>the two year thing is a myth.
i think it supposed to be an approximation of when enough new fat cells(adipocytes) have been created cumulatively for you to notice a visual difference not a hard rule
>When you're on estrogen, new fat will be stored in feminine areas right away.
sure but i dont think theirs evidence that it flips to 100% right away, it just creates a preference, but its still distributed pretty evenly anyway not 100% on your ass
>However, moid fat remains, and some probably ends up there because you haven't stabilized
well the way fat deposition works is that it goes to where the adipocytes are, so it shouldnt have anything to do with hormone levels. hormone levels effect where new adipocytes form, thats all. if you dont have adipocytes on your hips the fat cant go there, and if you have them on your belly it will. but to get them on your hips takes time because your body only creates new adipocytes when in caloric surplus. thats where the cycling comes in. it just speeds up the creation of new cells. but desu im not sure how because it should only make new ones if you hit a new max weight, and cutting doesnt actually get rid of them just empties them.

but your body wont create new ones till the old ones are full or dead. and the lifecycle is 7-10 years. but at any given time half of your cells are in the middle of that cycle so are only 3.5-5 years from termination. so at ~2.5 years you will have lost 25% moid fat and gained 25% foid fat.

it would be very cool if you are right and i will find out soon(in about six months lol)

nonymous 04/03/26(Fri)01:25:04 No.43143822

and how fast do you and people in general mean to cycle because its not good or safe to go too fast and also its really god damn difficult because your body fights it. like what do you mean by "very quick"

and how do you know your leg muscles arent just growing with existing fat and that its actually more fat ? are you tracking closely?

>>43153281
>You'll want to exercise as the most consistent way to do so. This doesn't particularly require you to gain much weight other than a small caloric surplus and a decent amount of protein.
yes this is the plan 1gram protein per pound bw and squats brazilian split deadlift progressive overload to get big thighs and glutes then a little bit of fat to smooth them out. everything else sounds like nonscience and copium

>>43153369
this is largely incorrect

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>>43153369
This aligns with everything I know. Lots of people get stuck in cycles similar to bodybuilders who dirty bulk where they eat too much and develop an eating disorder.

However, what is your opinion on the opposite approach in weight cycling where one loses as much fat and muscle as possible and then goes back to eating normal (with strict structure to prevent the crash diet effect)?

>>43153390
It's 0.7 to 1 g, I just recommend the lower end because skinny fags typically struggle to eat enough protein. The rest is accurate to how fat distribution works, it's just using laymen terminology because this board in particular is sort of stupid when it comes to health advice. Weight cycling is not a good idea, at best it's unnecessary and inefficient. It's essentially ignoring how fat distribution, estrogen, and more actually work in hopes for a good result that's heavily evidenced by survivorship bias instead of general respondence.

>>43153369
>>43153413
You’re mixing a few real concepts together, but the conclusions don’t really follow from how fat biology actually works.

Fat does not only go to newly created adipocytes. You already have fat cells distributed across your body, including hips and thighs. Hormones like estrogen change how those existing cells store and release fat, not just where new ones form. That means redistribution can happen through changes in cell behavior, not just by waiting for brand new cells to appear.

The idea that fat cannot go to an area unless new adipocytes are created there is incorrect. Most changes in fat distribution come from existing cells getting larger or smaller depending on hormonal signaling, not from creating entirely new storage sites.

The lifecycle math does not translate into visible redistribution the way you are describing. Fat cell turnover is gradual and not synchronized, and you cannot meaningfully track or predict visual changes as a percentage of “old fat” being replaced. The 7 to 10 year figure does not imply a clean or useful timeline for body shape changes.

Weight cycling is also not a reliable way to force new adipocyte creation in specific areas. There is no good evidence that cycling selectively increases fat storage in hips or glutes. If anything, repeated cycles tend to favor regaining fat in the abdominal region.

Estrogen does not flip distribution instantly, but it does more than just influence new cells. It shifts how fat is stored across the body over time, including in existing tissue. That is why changes happen gradually without needing extreme bulking or cycling strategies.

In practice, redistribution is slow, variable, and influenced by genetics. You cannot micromanage it through adipocyte timing. The most consistent way to change shape is still muscle development and overall body composition, not trying to engineer fat cell turnover.

>>43153390
>no hip thrusts
nigga what r u doin

>>43153084
genetics :p

>>43153397
>this is largely incorrect
>>43153413
>This aligns with everything I know
ok who is rite

>>43153084
it has metaphysical origins i can not even lie to u. personally there is a disgusting feeling i harbor within my body that once is removed my body gets better

>>43153446
>The most consistent way to change shape is still muscle development and overall body composition
this is pretty much what ive settled on. atrophy the shoulders and arms slim the obliques get super low body fat and pump the legs, then raise body fat until soft but not pudgy.

>That is why changes happen gradually without needing extreme bulking or cycling strategies.
im not entirely sure what people think cycling means? i assume they mean starve/binge which is pretty bad. i think its still cycling if you do 3-6 months slow cut 3-6 months clean gain ~15-30 lbs. and that it should hypothetically speed up potential hormone influenced redistribution, whereas not doing that would still redistribute through daily burn and store just not as quickly. but really that "slow cycle" is essentially body recomposition anyway?

>>43153834
read this >>43153446 or don't. weight cycling is known to be a nonsense concept, it's akin to believing you can spot reduce fat. don't make yourself obese in hope for a good figure...that should be common sense. you want a good butt? exercise. any 'female distribution' you'd gain you'll get as you eat a small surplus. don't be retarded.

>>43153876
Weight cycling is understood to essentially be a bulk/cut phase. A large amount of weight is lost in an aggressive cut to get rid of the former fat distribution. A large amount of weight is gained in a short time in hopes of filling in the 'new' fat distribution. It doesn't work that way for a lot of reasons and everyone is better off just gradually gaining weight in a healthy way.

>>43153900
>essentially be a bulk/cut phase.
>A large amount of weight is gained in a short time
yeah i think thats distinct from a cut/bulk. at least in a clean bulk you east like 300-500 calorie surplus forgo refined carbs sugar and excess saturated fats and eat whole foods fruit veg and max protein with progressive overload training expecting to gain 5 lbs of muscle over 5 months. fat is easier to gain than muscle.

i also see it described as yo-yo dieting, like following a trend for 4-8 weeks and then crashing out giving up and binging every day. idk if its cycling in a negative sense if you fully intend to bulk after the cut. even if its dirty as long as the surplus isnt ridiculous so the gain over time is moderate

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>>43153369
Then why do most transgender get fat sucking plastic surgery ?
Because these photos are of people who had plastic surgery and are lying.
Grooming is illegal in the USA now.
Be careful what content you put out, false content like the raw meat king is being investigated by the FBI.
The USA government just erased all fake data from bad or fraudulent studies about transgenders.
Don't post transgenders who have plastic surgery and say it's HRT

>>43157282
Oh my gosh shut the fuck up Chud. Not everyone gets surgeries, they have discipline. You’re not scaring anyone.

>>43153084
be on estro for a year
start dieting, aim for a 500 calorie deficit daily
when your bmi is 20-24%, start taking pio daily and slowly eat a 500 calorie surplus for the next 90 days

>>43153413
Please don't post transgender women who have had plastic surgery, when talking about a unproven science like fat maxing.
The HIPPA laws only protect privacy not illegal misinformation or for fraud studies

>>43157313
>be on estro for a year
why? what does a year do that 3 or 6 months wont?

>>43157309
Most insurance companies have admitted that transgender women had some type of fat suction done because the HRT wasn't working.
This caused the USA government to stop insurance on transgenders, Medicare is now stopping also.
Lies are being found everywhere
Fraudulent studies
Fraudulent insurance claims
Fraudulent influencers

>>43157334
Estrogen's effects on fat distribution are painstakingly gradual. People place far too much confidence in them. That anon's recommendation of doing 'weight cycling' at a slow rate is far more healthy and realistic than those who just tell you to bloat yourself in hopes that the fat will hit the right places. You should also be aware...even with estrogen you're not guaranteed to have the fat distribution you're hoping for. Genetics are by the individual, biological sex just determines generalized trends. Your fat distribution could still prioritize stomach, face, arms, back and more before hitting thighs, hips, ass. The only consistent way to shape up your lower body is to exercise, which you should be doing anyways.

>>43157309
Federal offense for men in women's restrooms. Keep talking they will come down harder on mentally ill people like yourself

>>43157313
Guys, don't take pio for this purpose. That's not substantiated by any research and the only 'evidence' seems to be more or less placebo. You'll get to where you're going through exercise, estrogen and gradual weight gain. Pio only adds risks for health complications with no actual benefit.

>>43157405
To elaborate:
The whole point of Pio is the idea that it'll reduce visceral fat and increase subcutaneous fat. For the patients that Pio was meant for (obese, diabtes) this was noted to be true in a sense and had a notable yet modest effect. For a healthy person taking Pio, the odds are that any change it would encourage would be too subtle to even notice while inviting the health risks that Pio consistently presents.

There is good news, however. A calorie deficit tends to target visceral fat first. Aerobic exercise will help eliminate visceral fat. Healthy living with no stress, a good diet, and plenty of activity will promote less visceral fat. And Estrogen, over an extended period, will shift some visceral fat to become subcutaneous. Those of you who are trying to mold your body without actually going to the gym are, frankly, being a little unrealistic. There are no magic 'sexy' drugs.

>>43157367
yeah that sounds reasonable i guess

>>43157405

no no no, stop with your anti pio crusade

pioglitazone will put more fat on your butt thighs and hips, it works especially well if you have an estrogen dominant system

>>43157785
Hey now, anon mentions there is no evidence of Pio being useful. Do you have examples that could counter his claims? Has anyone actually taken non-biased normal before after images?

>>43157785
That's not how pio works even in ideal circumstances