looking at the specs of the female body, it’s just a joke. it’s biologically inferior in every way that counts. guys get off so easily, just friction and they’re done, but for afabs it’s a struggle. the vagina is basically numb inside, science proves that, so piv does nothing for most of us. we’re built to be bred, not to feel good. the pleasure center is this tiny awkward external nub that’s hard to get to, while for guys it’s just right there. the system is rigged. and the physical weakness is insulting. less muscle mass, lower bone density, we’re smaller. i hate feeling like i couldn’t defend myself if things went south. it’s prey biology. you’re just waiting to be overpowered. the maintenance is a nightmare too, bleeding for a week every month, cramps that feel like someone is gutting you, iron depletion, all for nothing if you aren't reproducing. it’s a defect. and then there’s the boobs, just useless sacks of fat that hurt when you run and get in the way. the whole thing is soft, vulnerable and designed strictly to be used. mtfs piss me off. it’s laughable. you are born in the superior body. you have the strength, the bone density, the natural ease, a body that isn't constantly betraying you and you want to throw it away to be us
getting buckbroken about the pleasureless piv in another thread so they retreat to a new one kek
>>43154343There is no benefit to female bodies that doesn't include breeding. Male bodies were made for doing things, but female bodies are just for breeding.
>>43154343> oh no I hate being valuable
>>43154343Yes, because for us it’s the reverse. We are seen as fighters, monsters, abusers, big hairy men, while out heart and soul tell us that all of these things are gross and that it shouldn’t be like this. Our hearts ache when we see the lack of curves on our bodies and the broad shoulders or height signaling masculinity. We didn’t ask for these bodies just like you didn’t and we can’t help wanting the opposite. Men's bodies smell more quickly and often worse and that for example is cause for dysphoria for us. You get all big and hairy and smelly while your head screams that this is all wrong and gross and that it shouldn’t be like this and you just can’t stop it. Your body grows into this shape that you never wanted to begin with. Maybe trying to understand the other side of the coin, us mtfs, will help you be less negative about women.
>>43154365yeah, exactly. being afab is humiliation ritual. men are built to move, lift, fight, exist in the world. afabs are built to sit there and incubate. every single system in the body, the hips, the fat distribution, the hormones, it's all geared toward making babies
>>43154343i like having a female body what is wrong with you
>>43154371I hate being dedicated to only one purpose
It is so over for afabcels. Ftm clavicular framemogged by mtf fraternity leader at ASU
>>43154388why do you like it? what benefits foed it bring in comparison to the male body? nothing. maybe you just libe being submissive
>>43154380Even the fact that they have stronger immune systems is just to protect the pregnancy. Like there is genuinely nothing in women that isn't for pregnancy
>>43154343you have no idea how jealous I am that afabs can create life and I can't. You don't appreciate this fact enough, to live is to suffer. People don't care if I live or die, I hate that I have to watch my brothers and sisters hurt each other over concepts of gender.-mtf
>>43154400well every way they differ i'm glad i have the female type since it would feel kind of gross to be male but also i feel like it's just different not like one is superior or the other
I like having a female body cause I think tiddies are cute, cute And because im female people will pay attention to me and want to talk to me, i dont have any real interest in men though
>>43154393What is my purpose as an ugly male? To work and die a virgin?
>>43154418i like having sex with men but i wouldn't want to be one
>>43154407Not every afab can create life so all the things that their bodies evolved for are completely unnecessary and useless in those cases
afabs are the future. advanced developed countries are decreasingly reliant on height and strength while retardation, horniness and aggression are increasingly damaging. one day we'll live in a touhou society of only foids.
>>43154343Choose one :A = [X] can fuck | [X] can get fucked | [X] has prostateB = [ ] can fuck | [X] can get fucked | [ ] has prostateThe more I think about it the sadder I get, it's like some kind of biological injustice it's insane.
>>43154425Your body is literally all purpose think of literally anything that doesn't involve pregnancy your body is more suited for it
>>43154443I never really thought about it or noticed it until now but lol I guess I havent seen a male touhou character but I didnt know it was exclusively girlsAlso female only society and utopia would be really cute
>>43154425how terrible to be able to sexually assert yourself!
>>43154453Lying down on the bed and playing on my phone I think is pretty suited for
>>43154453Not all men look and are like gigachads from your AAP fantasies.
>>43154441I can relate there, but I think it's still nice that the chance was present at some point.>>43154443As someone who works in the support structures of our society we need people of all kinds and strength is still needed in all it's forms.
>>43154461i can still assert myself as a female and get a man to fuck me. it's not like i don't have a sexuality because i don't have a pp
>>43154462Men have faster reaction times so they're better at playing games too>>43154468They don't need to be. If a man and woman of the same height and weight exercise the same amount the man will outperform her anyway
>>43154480>i can still assert myself as a female and get a man to fuck mecan you fuck him though? Nope, and humping doesn't count :/
>>43154461I wasnt able to sexually assert myself at all until I transitioned.Maybe you should try being a lesbian.
>>43154490i don't need to fuck him since his body is not designed for that but if i wanted to i could use a strap on
>>43154483Come on. I'll admit being a man is great when you have the right personality and genetic potential for it. If you are low value unattractive submissive autistic male like me, being a man means stereotypes and expectations I will never measure to. I don't even want to be strong or dominant or leader or aggresive or whatever. But I am punished for it the way women who defy their own stereotypes aren't. So being female is better because it allows you greater range of expression.
>>43154513>I could fuck using not my bodyBoring! It's your prosthetic that does the fucking, not your body.
>>43154520my point is there's no need since it's not something my body is designed for
>>43154519It's a fact women's bodies evolved for nothing but pregnancy. The only reason they get any kind of respect is because of the pregnancies. If no pregnancy is involved there is literally no benefit to being a woman.
>>43154532too bad hehe :)It's totally fine to be impotent and never able to penetrate any hole. You're right.
>>43154535You don't even disagree with my point or challenge it. And I don't disagree with yours, yes, women are valued for your ability to create life. Yet you just want to complain.
>>43154535>if we lived in a hypothetical fantasy world where things are different things would be different!Yeah... I guess that is technically true, isn't it, in your unrealistic imagined delusions.
>>43154542It relates to what you said you just didn't get it, men have multiple expectations, they have many options. Women only have one expectation and it's being pregnant. If they don't succeed at that they are literally good for nothing.
>>43154535>>43154553so what do you do with infertile women or even just women who choose not to have childrenthey are not worthless since they can still do anything a man can do in society
>>43154553Yes, this is how society looks like, women just being pregnant all the time and never doing or succeeding at anything else. Seriously?
>>43154570Theu CAN do it, but slightly worse than a man would
>>43154574They can succeed at other things but men just do better at those other things
>>43154578There are more men being homeless, srug addicts, retarded, crazy, locked in prison than women. Yes, the best men outperform best women, but the rest of women have it better than the rest of men.
>>43154548It's literally true women have breasts for feeding children, it directly relates to pregnancy other than for that purpose they are just in the way
>>43154595Just cut them off then, you silly pooner
>>43154589Women are protected because of their ability to get pregnant we already talked about that. If women wouldn't get pregnant they would be homeless addicts all the same
>>43154610In general though there is literally no other purpose for them
>>43154611Do you have a kink about pregnancy?
>>43154595they can be used for sexual purposes it feels really good actually
>>43154621No >>43154626Yeah they evolved to entice men to get them pregnant
>>43154595>feeding childrenyou can feed me, an adult, with those milkers :P
>>43154633Are you sure?
>>43154343The feminine body has an inherent grace and allure, it's the kind of beauty for the sake of beauty, opposed to the purely utilitarian aesthetics of male bodiesWe don't really need physical labor anymore, it won't be a thing 100 years into the future, all that muscle mass will be completely wasted on looking like an inferior squared blockWhile petite women activate protective instincts, tall women can be pretty authoritative and commanding, definitely more than masculine short menAs for reproduction, I am personally more comfortable with the male body, so I guess it's more of an AGAMP thing for me, wanting the looks but not necessarily the function. That being said, artificial wombs will exist in the future so if women don't want to get pregnant, they won't have to and they still could have children>>43154553Women can easily weasel out of getting pregnant if they don't want it, and then they have no social expectations at all. They can do whatever they want and they're welcome everywhere, often encouraged to get into the field like with all the women in IT programsBeing a woman means freedom without responsibilities, being a man means responsibilities without freedom
>>43154650freedom of being dickless
I transitioned from a cute Twink to and ugly bastard. Curiously the same type of pooners want to fuck me.
>>43154633So you whine about having value for being able to get pregnant which you get to have without even having to be pregnant at all ever? And I am supposed to be sympathetic to this terrible plight of yours?
>>43154658What do you need a penis for?
>>43154648Yes>>43154650It's not true women are still constantly being asked when they're going to have children. It clearly is their only expectation. Even if a woman has a hysterectomy the topic will still come up. They can be offered all programs it doesn't change that men would still outperform them
>>43154671I mean the point still stands women's bodies aren't for anything other than pregnancy
>>43154675On micro scale, your friends and family can ask why aren't you pregnant and why do you not want kids, they have no authority to impose anything on you. On macro scale, politicians are concerned about low birth rates, but trying to force women to do anything would be political suicide so they won't do that.
>>43154672nothing, it's totally fine to never be able to fuck a hole :)
>>43154679I am just confused how is this a bad thing that you aren't expected to be terrible body destroying physical work? You yearn for the mines or something?
>>43154686>On macro scale, politicians are concerned about low birth ratesYes so they're offered all kinds of benefits in an attempt to entice them to it. Any benefits offered to women are just long term plans to get them pregnant they genuinely aren't suited for anything else>>43154690I'm confused how being good nothing sounds good to you
>>43154713Okay, you are valued for being able to get pregnant. But you don't have to actually get pregnant to extract benefits from being valued for it. How is this a bad deal? It's like getting paid for work you have never done or just might do in the future.
Oh my god just shut up and poon out already
>>43154713Being good for nothing is better than being useful and forced to die in wars
>>43154713Ultimately it's your call if you want to get pregnant or not, you can do it and make use of the incentives, or decide they're not worth the hassle and keep on living as usualI wish I had that level of autonomy when it comes to my masculine responsibilities like "defend the country"
>>43154726Again women can do other things but they'll do worse because all the evolution went into pregnancy
>>43154731It's not better if you actually want to do something in life>>43154734If a man wants to develop a skill he has more potential. I don't feel autonomous since nature picked the only skill to invest in for women is pregnancy
>>43154745So what if you'll do worse? I am pretty sure that my life is way worse than yours when you count everything.
>>43154770If I do worse it means someone else could do better there's no point in making me do it if I can't do it right
>>43154794Even for cis men there's always someone stronger, smarter, faster, better. It's not a reason not to do something.
>>43154794Okay, maybe you should be pregnant after all.
>>43154810But men are stronger, smarter, faster, better on average >>43154813I don't want to that's the problem this entire time. Why wouldn't I do the thing my body is literally best suited for? I know it's the best outcome that's what I'm talking about the entire time here but I don't want this to be my fate
>>43154830>but I don't want this to be my fateWhy? What greater fate would you have if you have been a man?
>>43154794Corporations don't care about doing their braindead meaningless tasks the best, you just need to be good enoughAnd if you don't ask too many questions, be docile enough to support the corporate culture and be the yes man to your higher-ups then you're perfect, and women usually perform better in these regards
>>43154836I care about being efficient it just sucks knowing that I can never be as good or efficient >>43154835I would be better suited for things that aren't pregnancy
Why do we need more babies or people anyway lol cull everyone on earth mass genocide
>>43154855What things? Digging holes? Getting shot at frontline? You are vague about it for a good reason, even your neurotic scared of pregnancy brain knows it sucks.
>>43154879I also said this earlier men are better suited for literally anything I don't need to be specific because it applies to everything and I'm also getting tired of this conversation because I'm just repeating myself
>>43154891But does being better at "the literally anything" translates to better life for men? Drop a discord and we can compare our lives, I am sure you wouldn't want to be me.
>>43154879>Digging holesnot with you dick hehe
>>43154912It does mean that pursuing things takes less time for them. I'm really not inclined to add people here on discord everytime I did I unadd and ghost them pretty quickly
>>43154951As a male I am used to being ghosted, I don't mind it. Add me:alex_xxxi
>>43154343God I want to stick my dick in you
>>43154343Why did I get a boner reading this goddammit
>>43154377>t. not a pooner trust me
>>43154343must. post it. again...
>>43155063>this kills the poon
>>43155063i need someone to do this to me
>>43154343Fuck you, imagine getting lucky enough to be an afab and still complaining about it. Go and live as a male then if you like it so much.
>>43155089yeah, afabs should grow a fucking pair already, jeez...
>>43154343Fuck the gaslighting transbians OP, I get it. The female experience is generally only attractive to those who weren't forced to grow up in it. After a decade or so of wagecuckholdry, sitting on your giant ass gestating sounds like a pretty nice option to a lot of incel types, and I do get it. But let's be real, which gender has the higher skill ceiling (physically and maybe even mentally)?I think the main takeaway is that we all hate being here in our physical forms, so blame picrel for that and not your brothers in dysphoria.
>>43155089Trade with ya?
>>43154794Look I'm a disabled woman, so I'm not really good at anything, especially compared to other people, but that doesn't mean I'm going to just lay down and wait for death: I crochet, I take pictures, i play games, and despite the fact that i am far from perfect, i still feel a sense of accomplishment when i do these things.
>>43157339>Female coded: get victim coded, get protected class privileges, gynocentrism privileges>Male coded: encouraged to active agency, isolated as active agent (everything you do is your fault and no help is coming), get marginalized as default because default structures are for everyone and not just men so you're forgottenThe patriarchy is a myth. Only the "elite" strata ever profit from it, reflected as common men didn't get the vote till 40 years before women, since then any benefit for men was a product of market expansion (ie consumerism) which always eventually caught up to women and became focused on them solely.You're all busy fighting over who is the better sheep, but only one gender is offered support and it's not men, which is why incels think you're retarded for wanting that
>>43157339>higher skill ceilingas if you are somehow approaching the human limits of capability, lol. thats obviously not true in 99.9% of fields and u are not a record-setting olympic athlete so literally how does it affect you
>>43154450Idk cause I've never had female genitals but having clitoris, g spot and female nipples seem to be nice unlike taking dicks into your anus which seems more like a medieval torture. Seriously, I put my finger an inch deep once and it hurt me for a few days.
>>43159185Anon got an ass made of glass
>>43154343GIWTWM
