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every tranny or femboy I see falls into 3 categories:
70%: not putting in enough effort to look good / unsalvageable looks due to genetics
25%: already in a relationship
5%: good looking but posts their spread ass online taking dildos and making a ton of porn content

Is it too much to want a trad relationship? I can be the breadwinner and she is the home builder? or do i just have to fight for their attention amongst the hundreds of simps and horny guys who just wanna fuck.
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how tall are you and what do u have to offer?
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>>43168172
.I'll give the gist of it.
I'm a good conversationalist, I have passions and hobbies and I touch grass, I got ambitions in life, if I had a partner I'd do a lot to ensure she stays as happy as possible (happy wife happy life), im not obsessive nor possessive, I'm in very good shape, I'm well endowed. i'm 5'9. Every partner I've had has told me I'm 9/10 or above. I will say my sense of fashion is pretty bland, I'd hope my partner can help me with picking out nice outfits lol.
not sure what else to write. cant give you the whole spill unless you ask smth specific.

What about you? what are you looking for
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>>43168395
>9/10 or above
Holy delusion
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>>43168395
>im not obsessive nor possessive
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>>43168427
I didn't say I view myself that way. I think i got plenty of room to improve. that's what my exes have said.

>>43168505
lol, what. that does not sound like a good relationship to be in for either side.
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>>43168551
>my exes have said
They're underage
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Hes giving himself an inch for sure..
When I dated a guy that was 5'8 and 2 inches taller than me I pretended like it didnt bother me, but we both knew and eventually it just completely ruined things between us. Glad I was able to find an actual man and Im in the 25% now.
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>>43168751
im comfortable with my height. never had an issue with it. i always thought i was 5'8, same as good ol padre. it was only once i got my licenses that I found out im 5'9.

>>43168587
Lol. Nah, everyone I've dated was around my age. There was an interesting person I met in a thread I made similar to this, and they said the same stuff about me. if they're around u could ask them instead of believing me.

Can people answer the question I asked?
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bump
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>>43168166
Straight man here.

Where are you looking for transgirls and femboys? Are you only using dating (hook up) apps?
Did you try looking for them on more reputable/normie friendly platforms such as Instagram? If I were looking for a trans girlfriend I would definitely go there first. Besides, Instagram is a good platform to indirectly communicate your interests and how your lifestyle is, which in turn can attract or filter people who initially found you attractive.

>>43168395
>I'm a good conversationalist, I have passions and hobbies and I touch grass, I got ambitions in life
These are great things, but
>if I had a partner I'd do a lot to ensure she stays as happy as possible (happy wife happy life)
I recommend against making this your PRIMARY goal in a relationship. It might sound counterintuitive, but if you try to do TOO MUCH for your girlfriend/partner, you might end up enabling bad behavior from her, or being taken advantage of, or ultimately becoming too predictable and boring and end up killing the sexual tension required for a relationship to last (perfect is boring).
Instead, I'd recommend putting yourself FIRST and lead the relationship with someone who wants to FOLLOW your life plan and goals, rather than you radically changing or molding your life to cater to them.
I'm obviously biased because I'm straight, but the vast majority of women I've dated and even meet as friends or acquaintances expect their man to lead and them to follow him.
It seems to me that a man that constantly tries to appease his girlfriend ends up losing some of his attractiveness as a man in her eyes. My theory is that women's sexual attraction towards men requires the woman feeling a degree of ADMIRATION towards him, and therefore being too nice and accomodating most likely makes her lose that, at least to some degree. Why? Because people tend to admire those they perceive as ABOVE THEM in status, and catering too much might make it seem like you're not.

Good luck.
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>>43168166
can't believe I'd ever say this but I'm actually in the second group and extremely happy that I ended up where I am??
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>>43170606
P.S. And regarding your height, don't stress about it. AFAIK 5'9 is average for a man unless you live in Netherlands. I'm 6'1 and never had a problem with it.

Also, keep in mind women tend to lie a lot when they list their preferences online. In real life they're ok as long as you're taller than them, which will probably be the case 99% of time (unless you live in a country with very tall women).

Another thing: don't expect or let women choose your clothes for you. They very rarely know what looks good and masculine and tend to chase trends and fads. Instead, ask male relatives and friends and look online for male fashion for masculine men (avoid metrosexual stuff unless you're that kind of man).
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>>43168166
Hi Im free if you wanna talk, im bored.
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>>43170606
I was using dating apps, but they only showed gay dudes. And even those were mostly fat dudes who dont take care of themselves. I'm a very privacy focused person, my instagram has zero posts. I don't mind sharing my photos with people I personally know but I don't post anything online. I imagine that makes others weary. Imagine if a blank account contacted u, yknow? so the IG angle is a bit tough. there's also plenty of trans girls who are a bit closeted and wouldnt be openly trans esp on social media.

Fair point on the happy wife happy life part, I kind of slotted that in as a joke. Im not the type to bend over backwards to please my wife, but at the same time her happiness is important. esp in the trans community i see too many ppl fetishize the girl and not really respect her. so I said that mostly to let anyone know that I aint gonna do the same. I value honesty and integrity and id hold my partner to the same standard. thanks for the concern tho.

>>43170667
I get what ur saying. but think about it from the girls perspective; wouldnt she enjoy spending an evening with her bf/husband, helping him pick out something that she thinks looks cute or good on him? even if its a shirt i'll wear once in a blue moon, if it means she is a lot happier for it then i do not mind whatsoever. I'm confident in my masculinity so idc about clothes. same with height. ive dated a girl who was taller than me and there was no issues at all.

>>43170829
whats ur most controversial opinion?
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>>43170667
>metrosexual
unc please I'm still a fag I'm not gonna put on sneaker, jeans and a hoodie.
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>>43170845
Like my most controversial opinion in general or like what this board would disagree with?
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>>43170884
both. most people just go 'uhhmmmm' and give some lukewarm take. im curious to hear what u gotta say.
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>>43170884
so controversial u got banned before u could even say it. rest in peace.
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>>43170898
Well in general, I used to have sympathy for some school shooters like the Minneapolis shooter. That person was overhated for hate sake. Like we all have people who are better than us and make us envious and you see yourself and you feel like shit. I guess I can understand being bullied and not being successful in life. But thats as far as I take it. I mean yeah you shouldnt kill people who did nothing and are innocent but I understand where its coming from, like pure bitterness and misanthropy. For this board, I just hate the people use make weed and drugs their whole personality. You might not know what I mean but theres mfers who are huffing shit 24/7 on here and making it their life and it’s retarded. Idk if that counts as normie, maybe it is if you been on here for a while probably.
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>>43171019
Your turn. :(
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>>43171020
ur post came in 5 seconds after mine hahahah.

that is certainly an interesting take. I believe there's at least 1 shooting every week now, right? It happens quite often in the US. I guess they are overhated because they were trans. a group that's already villianized for no good reason.

I'm not gonna pretend like all trans girls are beautiful angels, but the 'examples' used by media are legit the worst examples known to mankind.

I don't think the second take is bad at all, purely cuz I broke up with one of my exes because they got horribly addicted to weed and alcohol. and it was fuckin terrible. the smell and the behaviour was just gross.

My own controversial opinion is quite simple:

I really really hate fat people. specifically obese people. I dislike seeing them, sitting next to them, hearing them talk, hearing em breathe. the smell they emnate is like that fat Gassy Incredibles meme. You ever seen em walk? They waddle like penguins. Such a phenotype would never exist in a billion years, and yet they do. over stressed hearts, clogged arteries, stressed joints.. the list goes on. They dont just hurt themselves tho.
You ever sat next to one of these donut demolishers on a plane or a bus? Their viscous fat OOZES onto your seat. and then they gotta buy seat belt extenders. how about u extend ur foot into a gym fatso.

Trust me, I used to be an avid supporter of body positivity. then i watched videos on how much these lardwhales need to eat on a daily basis to keep all that fat. thousands upon thousands of calories to stay like butterballs. Enough is enough.
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>>43168166
I'm a fat cis male with a small cock wanna fuck?
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>>43170845
>so the IG angle is a bit tough. there's also plenty of trans girls who are a bit closeted and wouldnt be openly trans esp on social media
I see.

Depending the country you live in and its culture, maybe meeting some IRL instead of online could be a possibility. E.g. If you're under 30 and live in a city you could try going to places where transgirls and femboys may gather, for example if you like anime and videogames (very high chance given we're on 4chan) you could go to anime or gaming conventions and try your luck there. This might sound offensive but from what I've seen a lot of transwomen seem to be in the autistic spectrum, and it's not unusual for a lot of them to have typically male hobbies.
If sure would make things easier if you could pull that move. Having common interests makes things smoother.

>I kind of slotted that in as a joke. Im not the type to bend over backwards to please my wife, but at the same time her happiness is important
Good.

>esp in the trans community i see too many ppl fetishize the girl and not really respect her
I've seen that too, specially online. It doesn't surprise me however given we're on 4chan and in all likelihood a number of chasers here are probably desperate anons who just want to fuck anything they can and see transgirls as discount women. You can tell specially by the amount of shit they throw at them in threads to lower their self-esteem and make them more vulnerable. I don't like that one bit, it's vile and pathetic and ultimately a sign of low value.

>>43170845
>but think about it from the girls perspective; wouldnt she enjoy spending an evening with her bf/husband, helping him pick out something that she thinks looks cute or good on him? even if its a shirt i'll wear once in a blue moon, if it means she is a lot happier for it then i do not mind whatsoever
I'm not against that given it's an uncommon event and not most of your wardrobe.
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>>43171072

Lmfao thats a fair take, I mean a little bit chubby or pudgy is fine, its just when you’re obese theres an issue. The worst ones are the smelly dudes who dont shave and smell like doritos with 1000% polyester shirts thats like clinging onto their manboobs so fair enough. You seem pretty chill desu.
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>>43171201
Say you got a discord?
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>>43171201
yeah, it's why i hate obese people. fat people can be fat. Sumo wrestlers are fat. certain fighters are fat. people in certain hobbies like power lifting can be fat. fat can be good and even attractive. But when you have folds and folds to the point where even mold and other diseases can build up there? hell no. just like anything else in life, the dose is the poison.
>doritos
what, you dont like ur men fat and stained and smelling of doritos and pungent sweat?

>you seem chill
well, thanks. I appreciate the compliment. I just wish a cute girl would say that instead so I could strike up a conversation from there. I just can't seem to find any.

>>43171079
The con idea might work. I'll have to look into something like that locally.

>>43171216
lmao.
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>>43171227
I mean im a trans woman but idk if you’re looking for that. Idk I feel the same way I feel lonely a lot.
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>>43171254
I dont mind that. if ur cute and u got a nice personality we'd def click. u got discord right? u can add me thebigbomberman
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>>43171267
sent it too early. meant to add some more stuff: it does seem like my only 2 options are to use 4chan and hope they're near me, or go to cons. I'll def look into cons more. It's easy to meet pretty ppl online, but they'll rarely be close.
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>>43171267
Yeah sounds good
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>>43171272
Conventions or maybe if you go to uni look near you? I have trouble myself because I feel limited locally since people are kinda rude and selfish where I live.
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>>43171307

It seems like the only way I'm going to meet the kind of people that I want to meet right now is at cosplay or anime conventions and on this site. I suppose I'll keep bumping this thread for a little bit until it dies on its own.

I'm open to any questions if anyone wants to ask anything.

I also realize that there are going to be some people who might not believe my words, so I've attached some photos of myself to prove that I at least take care of myself. And maybe those photos will be interesting to the types of people that I'm interested in.

https://litter.catbox.moe/kgzwjpwe1hfh0jxs.jpeg

https://litter.catbox.moe/0ipb8rbgeqq930at.jpeg
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Bump
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>>43172159
begone fetishist. just go be gay somewhere else
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>>43168166
perhaps try dating a person that could actually be found irl?
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>>43168166
why are you looking for fake women? can you not get a real one? or do you just want to fetishize and abuse some random boymoder lol
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>>43172159
>brown
why would any tgirl date you, lol? they have endless gigachad white men thirsting over them at all hours
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>5'9'' indian
You gotta be fucking kidding me. I'd rather post my ass on the Internet than be in a trad relationship with you, lol.
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bumpenis
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>>43173102
Why do you think I’m a fetishist?

>>43173104
It’s also statistics. LGBTQ people make up less than 5% of people between 18-26. And less than 1% is trans. Out of that 1% more than half would not be my type. So even if I present my best self, the odds of running into a cute trans girl is next to zero compared to running into a cis girl. And that’s what has typically happened.

>>43173116
It’s the uniqueness and effort that I appreciate. A cis girl has certain liberties and support given to her all thru her life. Especially if she’s attractive, there’s pretty privilege. But with a trans girl, she’s gone thru so much struggle and effort to get to where she is today. The most interesting people I’ve ever met are those who’ve had to put in a ton of effort towards their ambition. What’s more ambitious than transitioning?

>>43173221
Not Indian, lol. And even if I was what’s wrong with that? I’ve seen people who are white be beautiful. I’ve seen brown people who are pretty. And I’ve seen black people who look stunning.
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>>43175796
bump
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>>43170863
>>still a fag
>> proceeds to describe my outfit

(Stares blankly at screen in faggot)
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>>43177893
share the fit
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bump
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>>43175796
are u the pakistani guy
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>>43180813
yep. Do we know each other?
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>>43181042
wish u luck in ur search for a tranny trad wife hugo
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>>43182076
Hahahah. I wonder if I’ll ever find one, but the tip about the conventions was a good one. Who are you?



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