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>hear people talking about "optics nukes"
>look inside
>it's just people deciding that ugly trans women aren't human beings because they're harder to jerk off to
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>>43168841
There's fappable, and then there's whatever the back right is here: >>43162652
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>>43168868
she's ugly and doesn't pass. doesn't mean her identity is invalid
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>>43168860
we should just call it transsex since we're trying to change sexual charicteristics, gender is a spook
not transexual though bc the whole history of that is not something we should go back to
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>>43168873
No woman would go out like that. Should HRT, laser, FFS if necessary first.
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It's so forced meme sounding that I'm currently believing anyone talking like that is a paid troll of some denomination. It's like when politicians all start using the same talking points at the same time. They had a meeting or there was an information flow and they are all in on it somehow. Doesn't need to be a formal conspiracy but it's obviously coordinated.

Normal people don't care about optics AT ALL. The ONLY people who care about "optics" are people somehow invested in optics itself, which only happens if you're part of some higher organization. And "optics nuke" is so clearly political speak. Can you imagine the average 4chan user laying out the Truth Nvkes in between scratching their ass and jacking off to unspeakable horrors?
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>>43168841
optics nukes are non passing trans women that WILLINGLY decide to honmode
or they're paedophiles or perverts

either group hurts the cause, the first should manmode, the second should kill themselves
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>>43168873
trvke
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>>43168888
except the ugly ones, considering they don't have a choice and suicide is malebrained
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>>43168841
>>hear people talking about "optics nukes"
>>look inside
>>it's just people deciding that ugly trans women aren't human beings because they're harder to jerk off to
I know. Sucks to suck. Get gud already. I can jerk off to any woman and you don't see me complaining.
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>>43168841
Straight man here.

The only real optics nukes are crime cases with trans perpetrators. Nobody likes criminals, and it's easier for most normies to judge entire groups of people if they see them as part of an outgroup. Human beings are tribalistic by nature so it's unavoidable to judge more harshly those from a group of people you perceive as different from yours.

Hons/non-passing transwomen don't nuke people's perception of transwomen as a whole, but they're easy targets for mockery by normies because normies' biggest value is SOCIAL CONFORMITY, and thus whatever doesn't conform to the values and customs of the society they live in is seen as "weird" by them.
By their own logic, non-passing transwomen are failing to CONFORM to what society (or whatever perception of society they have) says women should look like.
But, does it even matter?
They can't legally discriminate against you (unless you live in a shithole) so they can't really affect your life in any meaningful way.

Tl,dr: Rather than trying to live up to other people's standards for you, set and live for YOUR own standards and goals.
Whether the majority of people find you attractive or not is irrelevant. Look for the people who like you, and ignore those who look down on you.
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>>43169019
A woman who had stubble like that would just dress in gender neutral or masculine clothes. Only someone with a humiliation fetish would wear a skirt like that combined with that face.
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I think most people can reach the stage of "alright fine" where you still look like a tranny but you've gotten laser and been on HRT long enough that you register as female adjascent. Manmoding isn't that bad though you can kind of kind of just be both depending on the context
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>>43168873
Actually it does.
And allowing obvious men into trannys spaces is why the battle for acceptance still has been won. If anything it seems like it’s getting worse.
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>>43170810
Manmoding is the rational choice if you don't pass well. I'd like to actually not feel humiliated whenever I leave the house, but spend my semi-girlmode time with people I can't trust. Sorry I'm not a masochist.
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Entitled ugly people and/or criminals are going to be optic nukes, trans or not.
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>>43170835
Unfortunately >>43162652 probably doesn't feel humiliated or enjoys feeling humiliated.
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>>43168841
"Optics nuke" implies a sudden drop in optics following an upswing, whereas in reality trannies have never been normie enough to receive widespread support in the first place. Many forget how 70% of people are NPCs that blindly follow the current political vibe, and said vibe has derided trannies since 2015.
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>>43168841
congrats on waking up from the matrix
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>>43168841
we need some anti lookism movement
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yeah this is super common with homo sapiens, another reason why we're part of an unfortunately shitty species.
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>>43174113
No we don't. Unironically we should focus more on aesthetics.
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>>43168841
It really is psychotic. It doesn't make me doubt the validity of the ugly hon, it actually makes me doubt the validity of the anons here.
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>>43169300
> They can't legally discriminate against you (unless you live in a shithole) so they can't really affect your life in any meaningful way.

they actually can discriminate even if you live in the USA or Canada or whatever is first world to you, they just can't make it obvious and documented enough to convince a judge. Plus you have to sue and go through all that just to try and prove it in probably unfavourable districts



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