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why do all the alt mtfs seem to have normie bfs?
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>>43173180
Alt moids are usually gays, edge lords, or sociopaths. Its better to date autistic men
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because alt guys are usually pieces of shit and are super pretentious and pussies

picrel me and my normie drug dealer bf
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>>43173229
>picrel me and my normie drug dealer bf
basically all of 4chan has become vastly more normie than before but what constitutes a normie has somehow also become 100x more vague. what the fuck happened
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>>43173299
Well hes a normie. Who just so happens to be a plug

It's chill dw
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>>43173180
“alt” moids are rarer than “alt” women (trans or cis) because moids have no interiority
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>>43173728
lol, TIMs are so funny
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>>43173180
alts are normies with dyed hair.
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>>43173796
lol
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>>43173180
I had a fucked up life and sought normalcy.
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Hes very special, just a little normie looking.
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Jock x Goth is so cuteee
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>>43173180
That applies to alt cis women too
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>>43173201
Why be alt if you're not an edgelord
I suppose being to mask is beneficial, but fuck normies who dress alt for attention
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>>43173911
any tranny who fucks jocks is a race traitor. honestly jocks should be expelled from all queer spaces
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>>43173180
that happens with alt cis girls too lol
in the end they want a nerdy guy and that's fine
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>>43173180
dated an alt moid who would not shut the fuck up about some false allegation stuff
when we started dating I hoped I could help get him off ket but then we started doing it together a few times a week
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>>43173180
i feel called out
t. alt tranny with normie bf
idk. i think for me personally its because alt boys are kinda, idk they dont sit right with me theres something weird about them i cant put my finger on. like they're faking it
my normie bf hes just.. well hes just him. hes not alt but hes just him himself
i cant explain it honestly
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>>43177179
Any guy automatically gets called fake and an attention whore for being different desu. Men are rewarded for inner work, women for outer work.
With that mind I believe women are wayyyyy more likely to "fake" it. Or just to have a surface level understanding, music tastes, etc
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>>43178337
>>43177179
Like obviously alt guys are "weird"
Usually they're into some sinister stuff, you know, like the clothing should've implied to people from the start
Why the fuck are you dressing alt if you're not even weird...
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>>43178337
most alt guys ik are just conformists they're into the same bland mainstream bands they have the same bland mainstream tattoos with the same bland mainstream piercings. they're just idk. as i said i cant put my finger on it

but youre right a lot of alt girls are like that too theyre just in it for instagram and onlyfans and the alt guys are in it to try and attract the instagram and onlyfan girls

im alt but i dont have tattoos or piercings i dont need them everyone has them i listen to darksynth like gost or cyberpunk like karl casey or punk like uk subs or death metal like six feet under or grindcore like napalm death or new wave like blue mondays or post punk like adam ant or indie like oasis or rock like status quo

alt guys are like "no i like this one mainstream pop band from 2015 from mtv and if you listen to anything else you're a poser" like bro you're the poser

also the last alt guy i was involved with was a conservative like wtf. its literally contradictory and oxymoronic being alt is status quo, against the system. yet these alt guys they're all for the system and all for conforming they go so far to have a uniform of sorts the same tattoos the same piercings hte same haircuts the same dress style hte same band. its so uniform its so conservative

it irks me there's something that doesnt sit right with me with alt guys.

theres only one alt guy i truly liked its some old guy that worked in a second hand record shop in a market i visited once, he knew pretty much every band from the 1950s all the way up to the 2000s and i told him an artist i like he'd pull out like 10 records of different artists and be like here try all these. loved that guy, and he was socialist, compassionate. he dressed 'normie' ig but its more, his attitude, ig its attitude. my boyfriend his attitude is alt his dress sense is normie
ig for a lot of alt guys their dress sense is "alt" but their attitude is normie

does that explain it better?
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>>43173180
I'm FTM I dress extremely every day and find that trans women in my scene or women in general are not on my level
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>>43178467
Yeah that's crazy, I only ever see alt guys at like, concerts and from what I've heard from them they aren't really posers
Personally I dress pretty boring, no tats, no piercings other than earlobes. Sometimes I dress up but even then it's not really "alt"...
But I'm definitely into some dark things
And my music tastes are some of the realest out there. I see fake "alt" girls everywhere online though. Not even irl it's all normies where I live, and I just try to not stand out for no reason. Better to blend in and work in the shadows
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>>43178486
>are not on my level
this is why alt guys are insufferable
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>>43178486
Do you practice the occult?
How sinister and misanthropic is your world view?
Would you join me in putting actual normies in mass graves when the trumpets sound?
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>>43178528
You get what I mean. Most alt women aren't even wearing full makeup like I do. If you are my gf either wear as much as I do or wear none at all and be a silly tomboy country girl
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>>43178571
the amount of makeup doesn't matter...
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>>43173180
The real answer is that men are shamed out of alt spaces as though they are women's safe spaces. Even this thread is an example of alt women's hatred for alt men.
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>>43178486
Do you live in Sydney? I think I’ve seen you on the train, you look cool.
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>>43173180
"You like cool movies and music and stuff, but only for you! You want to be the smart one who likes cool stuff, and you don't want your girlfriend to like cool stuff. Do you know how uncool that is?"
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>>43178581
Yeah it shouldn't matter but even at the club I've found that most of the women I end up talking to aren't even interested in the music, don't recognize the songs being played, and might say something like "oh I prefer evanescence" or "psychedelic rock"
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>>43178618
I believe this is part of why dark culture has been mostly pulled out of the mainstream
So that people really need to dig for themselves and stop flooding scenes with posers as much
Personally I'm big into industrial, EBM, dark electro, black metal, neofolk, etc
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>>43178694
We should lynch cis "people" together. Every last one of them.
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>>43178766
You speak my language!
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>>43178782
Do you like martial industrial? We will invade towns marching to Genocide Organ and slaughter cisoids indiscriminately.
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>>43178817
Hell yeah! In fact Triarii got me into industrial to begin with
May their anguish quench my thirst for blood...
Hail Death!
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>>43178879
TCD forever
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>>43178942
May the oceans stain red for aeons to come
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>>43178969
dc username here

https://pastebin.com/7FenDCTp
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this just makes me wanna kms. I used to dress like someone who'd wear the zelda tshirt meme outfit unironically and I was told I had to get a real sense of style to ever hope to be dateable. I thought I actually started to look decent but people keep pointing out that alt women end up with autists. the only fucking people who ever share my music tastes are transbians. im going to rope.
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>>43179907
What music?
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>>43173180
Most alt women are hypocritical and weirded out by actual alt guys, related to the fact that there are more alt women but a higher proportion of them are posers.
I'm an alt guy (not a goth though, idk how to describe it specifically) but I have an outwardly normie gf, internally she's very freaky and silly but externally she's very normal. She's very perceptive and emotionally honest.
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>>43173180
Because he loves me vurr much
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>>43180214
recent-ish chart that I dont remember why I made but all of this plus a bunch of other terminally online shit like happy hardcore, beat bruxaria, and assorted niche soundcloud shit
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>>43180354
out of this I only listen to Death Grips, but I do enjoy happy hardcore and styles such as UK Hardcore or Hands Up and other 90s/2000s dance music
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>>43180473
I used to listen to a lot more of that kinda stuff but my mood usually dictates what I wanna listen to and the last few years have been absolutely hellish so thats what most of my chart comes from. back then I also hadnt really become as big a music nerd so it was all furry/weebshit and random tracks off youtube so I dont actually know all that many artists unfortunately.
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>>43180614
i mean I'm more into really dark satanic stuff now,but still switch it up with some of that nauseatingly sweet sound sometimes
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>>43180630
>really dark satanic stuff
that could be a lot of different things. usually metal though, and im real picky on vocals for that stuff so dont end up listening to a lot. did find this thing sort of recently though https://tantricbile.bandcamp.com/album/vampire-boudoir
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>>43180354
this all just looks like someone pretending to have a personality
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>>43180686
>>43178694
more so industrial in my case
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>>43180704
please go ahead and provide examples of music tastes that looks like someone who actually has a personality

>>43180742
ah right.
>industrial
>EBM
>neofolk
honestly surprised you dont know more of the artists on the chart then. Blanck Mass, Terrorfakt, Street Sects, Black Dresses and Natural Snow Buildings would probably be up your alley.
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>>43180760
there are always artists I don't know
Here's what I bought at least
https://bandcamp.com/noreasontosurvive
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>>43180788
theres some stuff I like that that isnt too far from this but the vocals kill most of it for me. though for some of it you can hear that its directly descended from the synthwave resurgence that happened in the early 2010s so thats kinda neat
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>>43180888
I really like harsh aggrotech vocals
Or the androgynous screeches of Nero Bellum
and so on, I get it though there's plenty vocals in dark music I can't dig either
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>>43175470
Whatever ur just jealous uwu. Hes the total package. Hot, smart, interesting, funny and most importantly, kind.
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I made my jock get crossed and listen to NSB - Daughter of Darkness with me and he loved it. Now im going through their entire discography with him and in return i listen to his infodumps about warhammer GAAGAHHGH IM GONNA MARRY THIS MANNNN
>>43180354
great music taste anon
>>43178591
because lots of them are fucking creeps and nazis
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>>43181379
Creep as in sex pest/rapist, fine i guess nobody wants those
But I still think goths that don't "creep" people out aren't really that goth
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>>43181379
>one of the only hot, straight women ive ever met who was remotely near me and shared any interests shows up out of nowhere to remind me theyre already taken
obviously you couldnt have known but fuck



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