I wish I could bottom so badly since its expected of me due to my submissive nature. But I just cant do it, it seems like it would be extremely painful and unpleasurable. Topping seems like its objectively far more pleasurable, meanwhile most experiences ive heard from bottoms say that it isnt physically pleasing at all, and that they only do it for the tops pleasure. What am i supposed to do? Is it impossible to make myself mentally okay with bottoming? Is it possible to be a submissive top? Am I just gonna have to trade blowjobs and frot for the rest of my life?
>>43180444either get used to it(and good at it) or don't. it's just another option available sexually. not everyone has to be into it.
>>43180444just frot pathetically into each other desu
>>43180444Idk what bottoms youve been talking to but it is legitimately more pleasurable to me than topping ever could be. Taking dick is one of the peak reasons for us to be alive, you just have to practice so your muscles can handle it and you dont make it painful for youself. It's literally only painful if you dont practice muscle control and using lube
>>43180444bruh dont overthink it. you can be a pathetic submissive top if you want to be. do your thing and you'll find other people who are into it. although if you havent tried either, i think its worth forming your own opinion
>>43180444What's the problem with just doing non-penetrative sex? As long as ya'll both are happy, who cares no one tops or bottoms.
>>43180527Id love to do that, but i dont think any other gay guy would want to be in a long-term relationship that doesnt involve anal>>43180579Tbf i heard the experiences from a reddit thread asking what bottoming is like, so maybe not the best source of info, but still it was alarming how most of the top comments were saying it wasnt physically pleasurable or outright painful.>>43180613idk how i would even tell someone im a submissive top without getting laughed at
>>43180654Well, for us it's mindbreakingly divine, there is a very very minor amount of pain during the first push in, as well as whenever we clench, but that is entirely fixed by training ourself to loosen the muscles. It is very instinctual for people to keep their holes tight, and some (like us) actually chronicqlly clench, but just like, figuring out how to let go and train ourself out of instinctually clenching makes any amount of pain go away entirely.Even before we lost our virginity we enjoyed anal stuff though, so idk if its like, for everyone, but its one of those things where you just like, know if you know.>Idk how i would even tell someone im a submissive top without getting laughed atThose are actually super common, they come in different varieties but usually get lumped into "Service tops"
>>43180654>Id love to do that, but i dont think any other gay guy would want to be in a long-term relationship that doesnt involve analJust enlighten them: http://man2manalliance.org/
>>43180743Being a throat goat helps too
Bottoming is the ultimate meditation. The ultimate letting go. You need to be at peace with yourself to enjoy it.
>>43180651I have no problem with it, I just assume most other gay men want anal sex in their relationship>>43180719Sounds nice, training to let go sounds very difficult though. Also doesnt help that I have anal fissures that never seem to go awayI dont know if service top accurately describes me, Im a more pathetic kind of submissive>>43180743Frotting is a rejection of effeminacy? but i love being effeminate :<
>>43180869Don't worry, I know for you!!, service top means you're a good, obedient puppy, lest you be forced in your place as a toy to ride <3You can be an empty brained, useless, perfect trophy for someone, and that can still mean your dumb dick gets used^^
>>43180922Also the fissures are something you'll have to fix dietwise, however a massive help is getting a bidet, toilet paper is like, the #1 causer of fissures.Learning to let go of those muscles is something you'll have to figure out for yourself pup, get lube and explore yourself, buttplugs help alot too, learning to get comfortable with the muscles that pull it in and out, you'll figure it out^^Just remember, pain means you're doing it wrong, which means either more lube, or start smaller
>>43180922Yea, that sounds like it fits me>>43180953tysm for the advice^^
>>43180654As a top idc much about penetrative sex, as long as i'm still plenty intimate with my bf, we're into each other and we can both make each other feel good.
>>43180869>Frotting is a rejection of effeminacy? but i love being effeminate :<dw its very feminine, the man2man alliance is just the timecube of gay sex so people bring it up as a shitpost
>>43180579>Idk what bottoms youve been talking to but it is legitimately more pleasurable to me than topping ever could beSame as this anon. I can get railed and I orgasm so hard that my legs shake. Can have that even while caged and soft inside the cage. I think it has to do with the prostate and how sensitive yours is though. I know mine has become more sensitive over time with more play and sex.
>>43183165As a top chaser, how can I one day achieve the ability to make trannies squirt via donut dunking?
>>43183175it depends on the person but, lots of foreplay and a willingness to just tease them for hours is really the biggest thing. Personally, I really love chastity and it keeps me from orgasming or really any kind of stimulation in the front so im forced to get pleasure in other ways. The hottest stuff has been when a guy was just ultra horny for me and used my mouth and then he would just pick me up and cuddle and grope me while he recharged. He mustve came like 7 or 8 times. He was really attentive too and got water and towels and even brought some fruit so my stomach wouldnt hurt. I think people forget about that kinda stuff. Also when cuddling, keep moving your hands around and squeeze on parts of them, use your mouth and tongue and(maybe) teeth on their chest and neck and ears too.
