Are chasers gays?
>>43183189No but gays pretend to be chasers.
>>43183189I think trans women are women in identity, not biology. So being attracted to them would make you gay as a man.But if that's not how you see it, a lot of chasers would still be gay unrelated to their interest in trans women.
>>43183189they inherently have some level of nonrigidity in their sexuality (like, kinsey scale 1-5) but to say they're all gay is inaccurate
>>43183219why do trans women accuse chasers of being gay men?
>>43183189they are bi
>>43183225well some of them are gay men
>>43183268are some trans women gay men?
>>43183275my first impulse is to say no but there are some trans women that feel like being a gay man was/is an important enough part of their identity that they still use the label. usually when it was a major part of their life or they're still immersed in the culture. iirc marsha p johnson actually did that lol. it doesn't make complete sense to me but if it brings them fulfillment i see no harm.
>>43183331no, i mean gay men who think they are women but are actually coping gay men, like how you believe there are chasers who think themselves to be straight men but are actually just gay men
>>43183189>Are chasers gays?Not if you like passoids. Some of us are bi though
>>43183340there are definitely some people in the world that believe they're trans and aren't, that's not a debate. everyone knows detransitioners exist. there are people who go through periods of questioning and confusion about all kinds of facets of identity, especially ones as big as gender. i believe that trans women are just as much women as cis women, including gooner trans women with weird fetishes, if that's what you're actually trying to ask. the percentage of cis people that currently believe themselves to be trans is incredibly small and i don't think there's really anything that can or should be done about them.
transwomen are malesmales that have sex with males are homosexualit is impossible for chasers to be straight
>>43183189pooner chasers are
>>43183189No, but they are certainly stupid.
>>43183189They’re not fully straight whatever else is going on with them. Especially if they go after trans women to the exclusion of cis ones. If you’re a cis dude who likes women with penises but not pussies… yeah you’re not straight, sorry
yes
chasers are gay cus they like penis
>>43183805trans women are gay men cuz they are born with penises
>>43183814yes
>>43183410What's the benefit of attributing womanhood to any trans woman, and also the weird, fucked up ones? Doesn't it make the whole group look bad?>>43183664I think it's a visual thing for me. I like meaty pussies but no innies. And if she has a small dick, I go insane
>>43183189Obvs, if you would date anything w a peanor as a man your gay
>>43183189By definition, yes they’re gay. There’s no such thing as a chick with a dick. There is however, feminine men that gay guys are attracted to
>>43183446When you don't like dicks, and fuck a girl who was born male, you're not gay. If you like dicks, and that's why you get with that tgirl, you're gay.It's simple, I don't care if a girl has a dick, I want that ass. When a girl has a pussy, I still want that ass.
>>43184175>What's the benefitit's not really a choice. i'm not deciding to believe something because i think it's beneficial in some way, it is just what i genuinely believe. trans women are women, and some women are gross and weird. works the same way around too. >Doesn't it make the whole group look bad?not to people that i care for the opinions of. there will always be some trans woman people point to and criticize regardless of if that criticism is justified. fussing about optics is retarded and pointless.
>>43183189depends what they chase i guess but does it really matter?
>>43184316>some women are gross and weirdtrue, but it seems negligent or willful if one turns a blind eye to the sheer difference in ratio. I think that's also why I asked what the benefit would be in that, since it felt forced to me. well, if it's your genuine belief.>there will always be some trans women deemed weirdI guess I only have my own experience to draw from. In certain hobby circles, my only exposure to trans girls is that of "puppy girl" transbians that awkwardly make everything about sex or being a lesbian regardless of who's there or what that space is about (e.g. programming related niche communies). And for the record, I'd judge anyone behaving like that regardless of gender. This was mentioned in some kinda greentext I saw recently, but it resonated with me, this fucking word that is inescapable, yuri lmao.In any case, I agree obsession over optics wouldn't be productive, but I don't think it's all or nothing either. If I hadn't met a better adjusted and not cringe trans girl on 4chan, that'd still be my only personal impression. And you might think why should anyone care: well, I'm just kind of a regular person going about their life. I'm not particularly into politics on either side. People like me just see trans girls behave in ways that are deemed fairly weird and maladjusted by most people and that becomes our impression, which if it could be mitigated somewhat, that doesn't seem like a bad idea?By the way, the way you wrote seemed eerily familiar. Just on that slim off chance, your name wouldn't happen to start with an S, would it?
>>43184484it's easy to get a distorted image of any demographic when your only exposure to them is with niche corners of the internet and people active in them. your firsthand experiences are representative of the people you've met and known were trans (which isn't all of them), not the other 2-3 million trans people. and it's not like you'll see headlines about a trans woman being completely normal and nothing remarkable happening, right? as for optics, the main issue with what you're proposing is that it shifts the responsibility onto trans people as a whole to manage the biases of others. and it's not just that it would be painfully inefficient and wrong but there isn't really anything that could be done even if you wanted to. it doesn't matter if some trans people say they "don't claim" a widely disliked trans person or whatever, that doesn't stop them from being trans. >your name wouldn't happen to start with an S, would it?nope! i have a pretty generic typing style i think though lol
>>43183189if theyre men chasing after trans woman noif theyre men chasing after trans men yesif theyre women chasing after trans woman yesif theyre woman chasing after trans men no
>>43183189If they're bottoms
>>43183189of course
